Canada Seal Slaughter begins

[DanishDynamite]

But I'm not. I treat humans different from other creatures.

Me too. Perhaps we have different definitions of human in this regard.

Are you claiming that seals think?

Of course they do. Are you claiming it makes the slighest difference whether they do or not?

 

[DanishDynamite]

Sure I do. But I'm rather detached from non-human animals, as I can't really relate to them.

I think we have narrowed down your problem.

Perhaps you're confusing thought with instinct and conditioned behavior.

This might be true in your case, but I think a more interesting question would be why you feel it is important to know to what degree creatures you kill can be said to think or not.

 

[thaiboxerken]

Me too. Perhaps we have different definitions of human in this regard.

Human = homo sapien. That would be my definition.

Of course they do. Are you claiming it makes the slighest difference whether they do or not?

No, but Dustin sure does.

I think we have narrowed down your problem.

What problem?

 

[DanishDynamite]

Human = homo sapien. That would be my definition.

Me too.

No, but Dustin sure does.

So it makes no difference for you?

What problem?

Firstly, your inability to empathize with anything other than a human being.

 

[thaiboxerken]

So it makes no difference for you?

Nope.

Firstly, your inability to empathize with anything other than a human being.

Why is that a problem?

 

[DanishDynamite]

Nope.

So the intelligence of beings are of no interest for you when you determine whether whole sale slaughter of these beings is good or not. OK.

Why is that a problem?

It is a problem because human lives are dependent on the existence of non-human lives. An inability to understand this is a problem.

 

[thaiboxerken]

It is a problem because human lives are dependent on the existence of non-human lives. An inability to understand this is a problem.

How does empathy play into that fact?

 

[Darth Rotor]

So Lions can be themselves but humans can't? I agree.

Your words, boy, not mine.

DR

 

[DanishDynamite]

How does empathy play into that fact?

Empathy is the ability to care about the well-being of others. You apparently lack this ability. Given the importance of the well-being of others, particularly other non-human creatures, for the wellfare of us all, your lack of this ability is dangerous.

Tell me, did you pick the wings of flies and/or the legs off spiders as a kid?

 

[thaiboxerken]

Empathy is the ability to care about the well-being of others. You apparently lack this ability.

You are wrong. I can have great empathy for other humans. Also, I think your definition of empathy is poor. I am using the word with this definition in mind: the intellectual identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another.

Given the importance of the well-being of others, particularly other non-human creatures, for the wellfare of us all, your lack of this ability is dangerous.

Bull. Just because I can't empathize with non-human animals doesn't mean I can't care enough to realize that we need to try and keep those animal species around. I don't care how happy my steak is before I eat it, but I would take measures to prevent the extinction of cows.

Tell me, did you pick the wings of flies and/or the legs off spiders as a kid?

Yes.

 

[DanishDynamite]

You are wrong. I can have great empathy for other humans. Also, I think your definition of empathy is poor. I am using the word with this definition in mind: the intellectual identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another.

No, you are obviously incapable of empathy.

Bull. Just because I can't empathize with non-human animals doesn't mean I can't care enough to realize that we need to try and keep those animal species around. I don't care how happy my steak is before I eat it, but I would take measures to prevent the extinction of cows.

Keeping those animal species around requires empathy.

Yes.

Thought so. You are a dangerous person, thaiboxerken.

Tell me, do you have a rap sheet?

 

[thaiboxerken]

No, you are obviously incapable of empathy.

Your insult is noted and dismissed.

Keeping those animal species around requires empathy.

No, it does not. However, feel free to provide evidence to support your claim. While your at it, maybe you can explain how we keep other resources around without empathy.

Thought so. You are a dangerous person, thaiboxerken.

Yes, I am dangerous, but only to people who threaten me.

Tell me, do you have a rap sheet?

I like heavy metal myself. I have a few speeding tickets, that's all. I think I'll go torture some ants now.

 

[DanishDynamite]

Your insult is noted and dismissed.

Typical for a phsych.

No, it does not. However, feel free to provide evidence to support your claim. While your at it, maybe you can explain how we keep other resources around without empathy.

Other non-living resources don't require empathy.

Yes, I am dangerous, but only to people who threaten me.

No, you are a danger to us all. An inability to empathize, when our well-being depends so much on others, is a dangerous lack.

I like heavy metal myself. I have a few speeding tickets, that's all. I think I'll go torture some ants now.

Do you have a police record? Have you ever been arrested by the police? Have you ever been indicted or charged?

 

[thaiboxerken]

Other non-living resources don't require empathy.

Why do living resources require empathy but non-living ones don't? You still haven't provided any scientific evidence to support your claim.

No, you are a danger to us all. An inability to empathize, when our well-being depends so much on others, is a dangerous lack.

I'm thinking you don't have any scientific evidence to support any of your claims.

Do you have a police record? Have you ever been arrested by the police? Have you ever been indicted or charged?

Who the frack are you to put me on trial here? And to answer your questions; no, no and no.

 

[DanishDynamite]

Why do living resources require empathy but non-living ones don't?

Obviously! You clearly don't have a clue regarding the concept of empathy.

You still haven't provided any scientific evidence to support your claim.

What claim, my phsyco friend?

I'm thinking you don't have any scientific evidence to support any of your claims.

I'm thinking you have no idea what a scientific claim is, psycho.

Who the frack are you to put me on trial here? And to answer your questions; no, no and no.

I am a concerned citizen, psycho. And I doubt your answers are correct.

Refrain from using insults, DD.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Patricio Elicer

 

[thaiboxerken]

Obviously! You clearly don't have a clue regarding the concept of empathy.

So you really can't explain why living resources need to be empathized with but non-living ones don't.

What claim, my phsyco friend?

That we need to empathize with living resources.

I'm thinking you have no idea what a scientific claim is, psycho.

You're making a claim, I'm asking for your evidence.

I am a concerned citizen, psycho. And I doubt your answers are correct.

You're not concerned at all. You simply wish to insult me.

 

[DanishDynamite]

So you really can't explain why living resources need to be empathized with but non-living ones don't.

This is sig material!

Psycho, try looking up the definition of empathy in a dictionery. Jesus Christ!

That we need to empathize with living resources.

"Living resources". Psycho, I bet you can't even understand why this phrase is offensive to me.

You're making a claim, I'm asking for your evidence.

Ok, psycho, what was the claim?

You're not concerned at all. You simply wish to insult me.

Seek help, my friend.

 

[thaiboxerken]

You've pretty much proven that you have no rational arguments to give pertaining to the subject of empathy with living resources.

I'll leave you to shed a tear for the steak I'm about to eat.

 

[DanishDynamite]

You've pretty much proven that you have no rational arguments to give pertaining to the subject of empathy with living resources.

I'll leave you to shed a tear for the steak I'm about to eat.

Thai, I have to say I'm confused about what to do at the moment.

I entered this debate in the normal way, thinking I was up against a normal aggressor with different opinions. I made my remarks fit this.

In my opinion, please see a therapist. I don't say this lightly. I've been to a therapist as well.

 

[thaiboxerken]

Your silly and constant insults really are rather tiring. You've actually made no attempt at rational discourse. You can cry for the cows, I will not.