Let us have a fact check.

[Without Rights]

These are from earlier in the thread, but they so deserve to appear next to each other...



This, in...

Good job, Without Rights. You've failed at your own game.

And you failed to pay attention to the context. The point of me saying those things was to prove that evidence is not facts, something that is hard for people to understand appartently. Only a few people here will admit that, others argue that evidence is facts. If you are going to jump in a conversation it helps to read at least a few previous posts to gain a perspective on the context.

 

[Without Rights]

So many quotes. So few stundies.

stick the stundie in your....

 

[WildCat]

Your right that was my point.

If it was the unique design of WTC1/2 that caused them to fall, what about building 7. It was a different design, was it also a shotty design as I heard someone say about 1 & 2.

Shoddy designs? Perhaps you know of other skyscrapers that still stood after a large passenger jet rammed them at 500 mph? Or had a 110 story building fall on them?

 

[WildCat]

One more time for the slow people. Science creates evidence through the scientific process. Scientist do not look for evidence, they test theories ok. No matter how much you say it isn't so.

Now you're just shamelessly trolling for the Stundie. And I only have so much sig space, so settle down!

 

[Without Rights]

Every time you call your mom, you're not a few minutes from certain doom.

Certain doom makes you forget that you mom knows you by first name?

Scale, Rights, scale.

Point?

Did you calculate the sum total of the force that this 15% created when it hit the remaining 85% ? You should.

15% of the top 1)weighed much less then the 85% 2)shattered into dust 3)tilted to the side. But yet came down with amazing force to crush 90 floors of concrete and steel in a close to freefall manner. That has yet to be explained by any of you, or NIST or FEMA.

Oh, that's bad. How did it become "dynamic" ? IT MOVED.

So if I drop my bologna sandwich it is dynamic? Where did dynamic force come from? The top section just fell with the force of gravity on the lower undamaged sections and caused a pancake collapse that obliterated all the concrete. So what happened to the core?

You are one, despicable individual, Rights.

Edited by tim: 

civility

Now, who's using speculation as evidence ?

That is not what I'm doing. I am saying there are other possibilities, making the opposing statement, not a fact.

 

[Without Rights]

Shoddy designs? Perhaps you know of other skyscrapers that still stood after a large passenger jet rammed them at 500 mph? Or had a 110 story building fall on them?

I am not the one thaty said the buildings were shotty, perhaps you can pay attention to context while trying to follow a conversation.

 

[WildCat]

I am not the one thaty said the buildings were shotty, perhaps you can pay attention to context while trying to follow a conversation.

Really? Then who did? You didn't lie about that, did you?

 

[Horatius]

So if I drop my bologna sandwich it is dynamic? Where did dynamic force come from?

Yes, actually.

In physics, dynamics is the branch of classical mechanics that is concerned with the effects of forces on the motion of objects

If you're dealing with forces and moving objects, you're dealing with dynamics.

The fact that the WTC towers outmassed your sandwich by a few orders of magnitude doesn't change this fact.

 

[chipmunk stew]

Really? Then who did?

That guy right over there--the one stuffed with straw. You didn't hear him?

 

[Without Rights]

teehee...

I thought your weren't a conspiracy theorist WR?

Like I said a hundred times before, I have questions, ask them here and you are a CT. I have been trying to these questions answered and only get name calling and demonization like I am talkin to Bill O. These are my problems do you understand. The answers are mainly speculation called facts. If you want to present a alternate story and call it fact I am going to challenge it. If that makes me a CT then you have a narrow mind. I don't know what happened, but I think NIST, FEMA reports are flawed, as well as the CT sites.

This site does not have facts are their side, they have a explaination for an unexplained mystery. You win arguments by bullying and teaming up and quoting NIST as fact when it is also just a theory.

Please re-read your Membership Agreement and stop personally attacking other Members - remember attack the argument not the arguer.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Darat

 

[WildCat]

This site does not have facts are their side, they have a explaination for an unexplained mystery. You win arguments by bullying and teaming up and quoting NIST as fact when it is also just a theory.

And you wonder why we compare you to Creationists?

Edited by Darat: 

Breach of Membership Agreement removed.

Already have your next sock lined up pd'oh? Because you seem to be trolling for a ban now.

 

[Without Rights]

Yes, actually.





If you're dealing with forces and moving objects, you're dealing with dynamics.

The fact that the WTC towers outmassed your sandwich by a few orders of magnitude doesn't change this fact.

Do you ignore the fact that the top section leaned sideways. That takes away from you downward force. But that is convienently left out of all the equations. And the core, never addressed what happened to it.

 

[WildCat]

Really? Then who did? You didn't lie about that, did you?

Without Facts, were you lying about someone else saying that WTC 1 and 2 were shoddy? All you have to do is post the link if your not lying...

 

[WildCat]

Do you ignore the fact that the top section leaned sideways. That takes away from you downward force.

 

[Without Rights]

And you wonder why we compare you to Creationists?

I don't wonder why nothing. I love Jesus Christ and I always will. I say it proudly. So I can compare you to satanists, after all, they don't believe in God or the devil either. Santanist.

Already have your next sock lined up pd'oh? Because you seem to be trolling for a ban now.

No socks for me. I wouldn't put on a disquise in order to chat with a bunch of fanatical, self-centered sadists trying to validate their own belief that they are smarter that everyone through the buddy system. Kissing eachothers asses like a bunch of fags.

You guys are a big fat joke.

So let me say this to your threats of banning.
**** You

Stop using insults. If you cannot, you will be suspended or banned.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Lisa Simpson

 

[WildCat]

Santanist.

I love Santa!

No socks for me. I wouldn't put on a disquise in order to chat with a bunch of fanatical, self-centered sadists trying to validate their own belief that they are smarter that everyone through the buddy system. Kissing eachothers asses like a bunch of fags.

You guys are a big fat joke.

So let me say this to your threats of banning.
**** You

Spoken like a true Christian!

BTW, I'm not a mod and can't ban you.

 

[CptColumbo]

I don't wonder why nothing.

Nice double negative.

I love Jesus Christ and I always will. I say it proudly. So I can compare you to satanists, after all, they don't believe in God or the devil either. Santanist.

I didn't think it was possible, but this makes even less sense than you're previous posts on this thread.

No socks for me. I wouldn't put on a disquise in order to chat with a bunch of fanatical, self-centered sadists trying to validate their own belief that they are smarter that everyone through the buddy system. Kissing eachothers asses like a bunch of fags.

Then you must not go to the LCF much.

You guys are a big fat joke.

So let me say this to your threats of banning.
**** You

Ouch, I may cry.

 

[DavidJames]

I don't wonder why nothing. I love Jesus Christ and I always will. I say it proudly. So I can compare you to satanists, after all, they don't believe in God or the devil either. Santanist.

No socks for me. I wouldn't put on a disquise in order to chat with a bunch of fanatical, self-centered sadists trying to validate their own belief that they are smarter that everyone through the buddy system. Kissing eachothers asses like a bunch of fags.

You guys are a big fat joke.

So let me say this to your threats of banning.
**** You

I suggest you take your debates to the politics forum. You can articulate, discuss and argue your beliefs to your hearts content. Facts and evidence in politics are not quite as important. Here, when someone without the education and knowledge makes comments as though they do, they end up looking pretty foolish.

You can argue the merits of the Patriot Act, Iraq war, taxes, etc. with your opinions, but your opinions don't get very far trying to argue physics, science and math. Clearly you're out of your element here and show no interest in trying to learn.

Politics Forum is the place for you.

 

[rwguinn]

I'll see your
and raise you and a

 

[Disbelief]

15% of the top 1)weighed much less then the 85% 2)shattered into dust 3)tilted to the side. But yet came down with amazing force to crush 90 floors of concrete and steel in a close to freefall manner. That has yet to be explained by any of you, or NIST or FEMA.

It has been explained, you just fail to read or listen. I have only been here a few days, and I easily found the reasons behind the collapse (besides also having an understanding of dynamics). Have you ever taken a Dynamics class or Strength of Materials? Try it, and maybe you will understand how the 15% had to only had to produce enough force to take out one floor at a time.