The testimony of Pentagon police officers SGT Lagasse and SGT Brooks.

[Lyte Trip]

Have you been on the Loose Change forums, recently?

And now all the sudden, you're leaving it up to "the media" and "if there are any inquiries". Prior to the release of your straight-to-Internet video, you were claiming that this would cause such things.

It seems as if it's your duty to carry out such proceedings.

Or do you think your responsibility ends with the predetermined conclusion you had prior to interviewing the witnesses?

Cut the self righteous crap.

You don't know what I do on a daily basis or who I contact or try to contact.

We never predicted that ANYTHING would happen after we released the info.

But you can bet this data has permanently changed the debate on the Pentagon and you better believe it's only going to get more and more attention as time goes on.

 

[John Blonn]

You don't know what I do on a daily basis or who I contact or try contacting.

This data is not going anywhere.

Whatever dude. You can waste time trying to "convince" JREFers and cultivate groupies at LCF or you can play with the big boys and girls.

University professors. Try it.

 

[Totovader]

Who?

List them.

Virtually all of them can go either way.

You've got Lloyd and Frank Probst but that's about it.

Obviously if the citgo witnesses are REMOTELY correct in their placement of the plane then at least a few witnesses would have been plants.

Wait a minute? Now "virtually all of them can go either way?" That completely contradicts what you were just saying- that none of the witnesses contradict each other.

Anyway- all of the witnesses and their position relative to the description of the plane, light pole damage, and generator damage point to a specific flight path which could not have been north of Citgo. Furthermore- your own witness puts the flight path south of Citgo- over the annex. That doesn't seem to bother you, but it's a direct contradiction of the other witnesses in your video.

If you have no criteria for excluding these witnesses beyond simply claiming they cannot be true because you say they cannot be true- then it's quite obvious that you are simply allowing your bias to interfere with your investigation, which causes the whole video to be extremely questionable as to how much you coaxed the witnesses off-camera, beyond what we are able to see on-camera. Also, it raises serious doubt about the extent of your investigation- you intentionally did not question or show any of the witnesses that contradict your claims, and you quite blatantly make conclusions which your witnesses clearly disagree with.

You do not have a single witness which corroborates your version of the events. You don't even have several witnesses, which- when put together- corroborate your series of the events.

You have no witnesses, no calculations, no evidence, no response to the amazing amount of contradictions... you don't even have a complete argument.

How can you possibly still be trying to promote this?

 

[ConspiRaider]

Nobody is laughing at me sir.

We have a lot of people quite nervous though that's for sure!

I have no idea when or if the media and authorities will get their heads out of their asses.

But you better believe if there are any inquiries that these witnesses will be called.

No one is laughing at you, as far as you know.

When you say "a lot" of people - how many? If they were midgets, could you fit them all inside a Volkswagen? Is it a cityful of people? A countyful? A - pardon me - DISTRICTful? Are they all of one race or demographic, or is it a melting pot? Do they smoke pot a lot?

When you say "quite nervous", how so? Are they biting their fingernails and tapping their feet? Are they biting other people's fingernails? Are they in their backyards, chomping Kentucky bluegrass and mooing at the next door neighbors at three in the morning?

Obviously this is just a tiny sliver of your Pentagon investigation, these Citgo el Norte witnesses. The 100-plus people who worked on identifying the remains of the Flight 77 passengers (allegedly): When do we see those interviews? If there is an inquiry, do you think THEY will be called?

 

[Lyte Trip]

Wait a minute? Now "virtually all of them can go either way?" That completely contradicts what you were just saying- that none of the witnesses contradict each other.

None directly contradict the north side of the citgo claim by claiming the plane was on the south side of the station. That is what I said and I stand by it.

You do not have a single witness which corroborates your version of the events. You don't even have several witnesses, which- when put together- corroborate your series of the events.

You have no witnesses, no calculations, no evidence, no response to the amazing amount of contradictions... you don't even have a complete argument.

How can you possibly still be trying to promote this?

Are you crazy?

Our claim is that the plane was on the north of the station.

THAT is the smoking gun and THAT is what ALL the witnesses say.

 

[Totovader]

Cut the self righteous crap.

You don't know what I do on a daily basis or who I contact or try to contact.

We never predicted that ANYTHING would happen after we released the info.

But you can bet this data has permanently changed the debate on the Pentagon and you better believe it's only going to get more and more attention as time goes on.

Well, clearly you're lying:

Simultaneously with the release to the public.

There is a mountain of evidence that has been marginalized and ignored by the media and the authorities so we intend to make sure that this information is available to everyone.

There is no current investigation.

I predict there will be a grand jury this year.

The data has been worth a good laugh, I will grant you that. I don't doubt it will get more attention. I do doubt it will get you the kind of publicity you are looking for, however.

 

[Lyte Trip]

Obviously this is just a tiny sliver of your Pentagon investigation, these Citgo el Norte witnesses. The 100-plus people who worked on identifying the remains of the Flight 77 passengers (allegedly): When do we see those interviews? If there is an inquiry, do you think THEY will be called?

I sure hope so.

And everyone in the chain of ownership of those remains.

Of course the official story requires that you accept the notion that the entire 757 disintegrated.

Either the plane disintegrated or they collected remains of the passengers.

They can't have it both ways.

 

[beachnut]

I sure hope so.

And everyone in the chain of ownership of those remains.

Of course the official story requires that you accept the notion that the entire 757 disintegrated.

Either the plane disintegrated or they collected remains of the passengers.

They can't have it both ways.

Are you mentally ill? That is the dumbest post I have seen. You are pathetic, your witnesses have on the record interviews which rip your story apart. Your blame hundreds of people of murder, when everyone knows it was done by terrorist. I am not sure what has happen to you and your ability to think logically but it has not been evident on any of your post anywhere on the entire internet. Your ideas have no facts to support them. You have ignored thousands of facts and pieces of evidence that make your whole story an outright lie. Your evidence contradict your own story, and you fail to even see it.

Your entire story is fiction and you have zero facts to support it. You have not done a very good job. Your entire film is junk and you are still telling lies despite the facts.

 

[Lyte Trip]

Well, clearly you're lying:



The data has been worth a good laugh, I will grant you that. I don't doubt it will get more attention. I do doubt it will get you the kind of publicity you are looking for, however.

Where did I say that our data would be the cause?

I mentioned a "mountain" of evidence.

I do believe there will be a Grand Jury this year.

And I certainly believe that the citgo witness testimony will be included.

I did not EVER say that The PentaCon would be the sole cause.

 

[Lyte Trip]

Are you mentally ill? That is the dumbest post I have seen.

Why?

If the plane disintegrated just as the OS claims it did (watch seconds from disaster) then the bodies disintegrated too.

 

[Totovader]

None directly contradict the north side of the citgo claim by claiming the plane was on the south side of the station. That is what I said and I stand by it.

Which is a strawman.

Many people have repeatedly pointed out that the testimony of the other witnesses undeniably contradict your claims.

You respond by stating that none of the witnesses specifically state a south of the Citgo claim- ignoring that the testimony they are providing necessarily means a south-of-Citgo position.

What you are doing is a fallacy of the unasked question. You are asserting that since none of them "claim the plane was south of the Citgo" specifically- that they corroborate your story. This obviously cannot be true.

Please address this, and stop trying to play semantics with this.

Are you crazy?

Not literally, and not figuratively. You- however- should take a cue from your earlier escapades, and stick to the topic.

Our claim is that the plane was on the north of the station.

This claim is contradicted by the majority of the witnesses, who confirm the official flight path, flight path damage, wreckage, impact damage, DNA evidence, etc, etc, etc.

You feel you cannot resolve this contradiction without plastering a big target across your forehead, so you try and speak for these witnesses. This should not be that difficult for you to understand. If you were not contradicting the official story- the one supported by the majority of the witnesses- then you would not need to make the video.

THAT is the smoking gun and THAT is what ALL the witnesses say.

As has already been pointed out to you many times- you do not have a single witness that corroborates your story. You have a small handful who- though they are sketchy on the details and the specifics and do contradict earlier statements- place the plane north of the Citgo. This is not backed up by any evidence- and is in fact contradicted by all the available data, but that doesn't stop you from ignoring all of that information, inserting your own conclusion DESPITE what the witness you're trying to manipulate even claim- and making a video off of it.

You simply cannot maintain the position that all the witnesses support your story at the same time you are trying to make a movie "exposing the truth". You not only have to resolve the complete lack of evidence you have- but you have to explain the mountains of evidence that contradict your claim, AND GIVE VALID REASONS FOR EXCLUDING THE WITNESS TESTIMONY

Until you do this- you will continue to receive a similar kind of welcome. Seriously- it should not be so difficult for you to understand the whopping contradictions in your claims. Resolve them.

 

[Totovader]

Where did I say that our data would be the cause?

I mentioned a "mountain" of evidence.

I do believe there will be a Grand Jury this year.

And I certainly believe that the citgo witness testimony will be included.

I did not EVER say that The PentaCon would be the sole cause.

So now you're saying there will be?

And yes- you did insinuate that you and your "Team" would be the champions of a crumbling of the government. This was the "smoking gun" release, remember?

Regardless, caught you in a lie: go me.

 

[Lyte Trip]

Who?

List some.

You are just claiming it because you believe it but you haven't analyzed the accounts.

You haven't gone through each with a fine toothed comb. You didn't try plotting them on a map.

You didn't try going to where they were to take pictures and video of their POV.

You haven't called them.

You haven't interviewed them.

You probably haven't even read their acccounts!

We do not or have not excluded ANYONE.

You just wait for the Researcher's Edition.

 

[Totovader]

Why?

If the plane disintegrated just as the OS claims it did (watch seconds from disaster) then the bodies disintegrated too.

Yet again a false dilemma- the plane "disintegrated" due to impact. Impact does not make a body disappear into nothing (and neither does fire, to be specific).

Your incredibly ignorant claim that since the plane crashed and disintegrated, there could not have been any bodies- relies on such a major misunderstanding of basic principles of crash science and a complete lack of understanding of just history in general that I really do question what exactly your investigation entailed.

 

[Lyte Trip]

So now you're saying there will be?

And yes- you did insinuate that you and your "Team" would be the champions of a crumbling of the government. This was the "smoking gun" release, remember?

Regardless, caught you in a lie: go me.

You are lying by saying that.

I have NEVER claimed that anything specific would happen because of this data.

I knew it would change the debate and it has. Exactly when and if 9/11 truth will ever be acknowledged by media and authorities I do not know nor have I ever claimed to know.

 

[Totovader]

You just wait for the Researcher's Edition.

If it's even half as funny as the "smoking gun" edition- I'll be there.

Except, with this one- I sure hope it really emphasizes it's title more... like, will you use real researchers, or something? Will you go out an interview researchers?

You tried a similar tactic months ago: "just you wait!!!"

We waited.

And waited.

And then we laughed.

A lot.

As one viewer put it- the video debunks itself. Amazing. I expect nothing less from a "researcher edition".

 

[Totovader]

You are lying by saying that.

I have NEVER claimed that anything specific would happen because of this data.

I knew it would change the debate and it has. Exactly when and if 9/11 truth will ever be acknowledged by media and authorities I do not know nor have I ever claimed to know.

No, I'm not- I even linked to the thread where you were making these claims.

Don't forget a large portion of your audience was involved with those discussions as well. Pretending as if they aren't going to remember your "grand jury" claims is pretty ridiculous.

The quote above proves your statement wrong- ignoring your attempt to play semantics again with the "exactly when..."

On the issue of semantics- actually. I'm wondering how you approached the witnesses, what you said to them, and exactly how you planned to manipulate what they were saying.

It's more of a rhetorical question...

 

[Lyte Trip]

Yet again a false dilemma- the plane "disintegrated" due to impact. Impact does not make a body disappear into nothing (and neither does fire, to be specific).

Your incredibly ignorant claim that since the plane crashed and disintegrated, there could not have been any bodies- relies on such a major misunderstanding of basic principles of crash science and a complete lack of understanding of just history in general that I really do question what exactly your investigation entailed.

Uh yeah sorry I must have only gotten a C in crash science class.


Bottom line; the only remotely significant pieces of aircraft that were reported found are limited to these right here:

 

[Parsman]

I really do question what exactly your investigation entailed.

His investigation involved trying to tell his ass from his elbow. He failed

 

[Lyte Trip]

No, I'm not- I even linked to the thread where you were making these claims.

Don't forget a large portion of your audience was involved with those discussions as well. Pretending as if they aren't going to remember your "grand jury" claims is pretty ridiculous.

The quote above proves your statement wrong- ignoring your attempt to play semantics again with the "exactly when..."

On the issue of semantics- actually. I'm wondering how you approached the witnesses, what you said to them, and exactly how you planned to manipulate what they were saying.

It's more of a rhetorical question...

You must not understand English.

Yes I said I believed there will be a Grand Jury this year.

Yes I STAND BY that statement.

No I did not ever say that our film would result in a Grand Jury.

Stop lying about my claims.