Let us have a fact check.

Arkan_Wolfshade said:
I made no mention of videos/pictures of the events. I stated
Do you agree that it was observed, or not?
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Some say they observed a smaller looking aircraft also. They are facts yes, but isn't it said here that testimony can't be trusted because the "confusion" surrounding the events.
 
Without Rights said:
No, that's ignorant. Everybody knows there were cameras pointed at the Pentagon.
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Since "everyone" knows this it will be no problem for you to point out the locations of these cameras and what they are recording.
 
Just a couple of points:

Without Rights said:
Not according to the BBC.
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Yes, according to the BBC. They've explained repeatedly that the "hijackers still alive" stories were mistaken identity. What is your justification for believing that one BBC story is correct and all others false, other than that the one you choose to believe to be correct agrees with your bias?

Not originally, they showed up on the manifest later.
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Passenger manifests containing the names of the hijackers were produced in evidence at Zacarias Moussaoui's trial. Are you claiming that earlier versions of the passenger manifests exist which do not show the names of the hijackers? If so, can you provide evidence for this claim?

Dave
 
14,000 people evacuated the WTC and not 1 saw a bomb. Hundred of firefighters and cops who are alive today, were in the WTC and they didn't see a bomb. I guess they all work for the Neocon conspiracy?
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The bombs wouldn't be on walls and on peoples desks, they would be behind the wall placed on the steel beams. I bet nobody saw any steel beams while they where being evacuated either, does that mean there weren't any?
 
Without Rights said:
The bombs wouldn't be on walls and on peoples desks, they would be behind the wall placed on the steel beams. I bet nobody saw any steel beams while they where being evacuated either, does that mean there weren't any?
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Ahh...but presence of steel beams has been proven...the presence of bombs has not.
 
Yes, according to the BBC. They've explained repeatedly that the "hijackers still alive" stories were mistaken identity. What is your justification for believing that one BBC story is correct and all others false, other than that the one you choose to believe to be correct agrees with your bias?
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Mistaken identity? So how are they now sure who the hijackers are? The FBI said there is no proof.



Passenger manifests containing the names of the hijackers were produced in evidence at Zacarias Moussaoui's trial. Are you claiming that earlier versions of the passenger manifests exist which do not show the names of the hijackers? If so, can you provide evidence for this claim?
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/11/victims-list.htm
No hijackers names are on this list. Did they use fake names?
 
HyJinX said:
:rolleyes: Very P'doh of you.
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Countless people heard bombs, that is evidence. Firefighters said they seen flashes in the lower floors, that is evidence. Molten metal in the sub-levels that is evidence. Molten metal pouring from the tower, that is evidence.
 
Without Rights said:
You mean NIST put out something that collaborates their story. Wow thats fascinating.
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When the Rapture goes down and I'm one of the few billion sinners "Left Behind," I want to have handy a huge supply of whatever you're on.

Seriously. I'll pay top dollar. Let's talk.


(And please look up the definitions of "collaborate" and "corroborate.")
 
Without Rights said:
Mistaken identity? So how are they now sure who the hijackers are? The FBI said there is no proof.
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You really should read the responses people give you.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77984
http://www.911myths.com/html/still_alive.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/abdulaz...ill_alive.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/ahmed_a...ill_alive.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/khalid_...ill_alive.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/mohammed_atta_alive.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/said_al-ghamdi_alive.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/salem_a...ill_alive.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/wail_al...ill_alive.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/waleed_...ill_alive.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/mohand_...ill_alive.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/11/victims-list.htm
No hijackers names are on this list. Did they use fake names?
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That's a victim's list, genius. It's not a flight manifest.

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These are flight manifests:
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g73/chipmunk_stew/Flight11Manifesta.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g73/chipmunk_stew/Flight11Manifestb.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g73/chipmunk_stew/Flight11Manifestc.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g73/chipmunk_stew/Flight77Manifesta.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g73/chipmunk_stew/Flight77Manifestb.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g73/chipmunk_stew/Flight93Manifesta.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g73/chipmunk_stew/Flight175Manifesta.jpg
 
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defaultdotxbe said:
that is not a passenger manifest, you were asked to show a passenger manifest without the hijakcers

usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/11/victims-list.htm

hijackers are not their own victims
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Actually it says passengers. Wouldn't they have been passengers? Did they sneak on the plane?
 
Without Rights said:
Countless people heard bombs, that is evidence.
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no, they heard explosions, not all exposions are bombs

Firefighters said they seen flashes in the lower floors, that is evidence.
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although "flashes" are not bombs either, do you have a source for this?

did they flashes occur at the same time they heard explosions?

Molten metal in the sub-levels that is evidence.
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evidence of what? high temperatures? yeah, fire will do that

Molten metal pouring from the tower, that is evidence.
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see above
 
chipmunk stew said:
You really should read the responses people give you.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77984
http://www.911myths.com/html/still_alive.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/abdulaz...ill_alive.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/ahmed_a...ill_alive.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/khalid_...ill_alive.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/mohammed_atta_alive.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/said_al-ghamdi_alive.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/salem_a...ill_alive.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/wail_al...ill_alive.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/waleed_...ill_alive.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/mohand_...ill_alive.html


That's a victim's list, genius. It's not a flight manifest.
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That is a biased website. That's the same as me posting prisonplanet URL's
 
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