Bill Cosby's 2004 "Rant" against low-class blacks

steverino said:
Other than myself, is there anyone else here who feels Cosby's views hold some validity
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WHOA out on a limb!

I think I'm subscribing to the water is wet belief also. ;)

And LMAO @ attention whore Jackson. All the sincerity of a $3 bill and one of the worst black apologists ever....yet when Cosby went on this rant he kinda stood there going "yeah!" :rolleyes: Someone please shoot him and put him out of the world's misery...
 
I cant blame him for being mad. I cant imagine working so hard to get the right to the same educational oppertunities for blacks and seeing people get beat up and arrested to fight for them only to see the next generation not even try to take advantage of those oppertunities.
 
nails3jesus0 said:
I cant blame him for being mad. I cant imagine working so hard to get the right to the same educational oppertunities for blacks and seeing people get beat up and arrested to fight for them only to see the next generation not even try to take advantage of those oppertunities.
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This is an area where I can find fault Cosby's rant. He seems resentful that, now people are free to choose, they are not choosing as he would like.
 
corplinx said:
One of your best posts ever.
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I have spent the afternoon trying to find the right pic of the Fat Albert gang to respond to that comment, but haven't come up with anything. I know the one I want (it actually showed up in a Family Guy episode recently), but can't find it.
 
pgwenthold said:
I have spent the afternoon trying to find the right pic of the Fat Albert gang to respond to that comment, but haven't come up with anything. I know the one I want (it actually showed up in a Family Guy episode recently), but can't find it.
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Anything that can't be said with this pic isn't worth saying. ;)

 
shecky said:
He seems resentful that, now people are free to choose, they are not choosing as he would like.
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No, he's resentful that they're choosing wrongly.

The way you phrase it, you make it sound like reading skills (for example) are simply a matter of taste, like liking olives on your pizza or not. That the decision to commit a crime or not is of not more import than the decision to put grey or green carpet in your house.

I have no problem with the idea that a decision with objectively bad consequences can be objectively wrong.
 
drkitten said:
I have no problem with the idea that a decision with objectively bad consequences can be objectively wrong.
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Hmm... well put.

Of course, one person's "wrong" could be another person's "right", but either way, if a decision causes more harm than good, then it's still a harmful decision. No matter how I look at it, making decisions that cause more harm than good is something that people, in general, should avoid and be against.
 
drkitten said:
No, he's resentful that they're choosing wrongly.

The way you phrase it, you make it sound like reading skills (for example) are simply a matter of taste, like liking olives on your pizza or not. That the decision to commit a crime or not is of not more import than the decision to put grey or green carpet in your house.

I have no problem with the idea that a decision with objectively bad consequences can be objectively wrong.
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Being able to choose wrongly is all part of freedom.

My glass-half-full assessment is that "choosing wrongly" isn't quite a problem with African Americans that Cosby seems to make of it, either. This is what makes Cosby's rant less of a constructive criticism than more of a crusty old man rant.
 
pgwenthold said:
No, there's a much better pic that applies here. It is the one where they are all cheering. It's fairly common, so I'm surprised I can't find it.
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Is this the one you're looking for?

 
shecky said:
Being able to choose wrongly is all part of freedom.
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As is being able to criticize people for doing it. And being able to criticize people for not only choosing wrongly but laying the blame for the consequences on others.


shecky said:
My glass-half-full assessment is that "choosing wrongly" isn't quite a problem with African Americans that Cosby seems to make of it, either.
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It is possible you are correct, but I have less reason to take your assessment than I do to take Cosby's.


shecky said:
This is what makes Cosby's rant less of a constructive criticism than more of a crusty old man rant.
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That is the equivalent of me saying this post of yours is simply the anonymous ranting of a bored internet poster who despises celebrity.
 
Garrette said:
As is being able to criticize people for doing it. And being able to criticize people for not only choosing wrongly but laying the blame for the consequences on others.
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Yes, and... ?

Garrette said:
It is possible you are correct, but I have less reason to take your assessment than I do to take Cosby's.
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Why? Cosby wasn't exactly defending a dissertation here. In fact, he sounds very much like a sermon I heard Louis Farrakhan give in St. Louis in the early 90s.

Cosby could have made the same speech about any ethnic group, or none at all. And it still would have sounded more like a crusty old man rant than constructive criticism.

Garrette said:
That is the equivalent of me saying this post of yours is simply the anonymous ranting of a bored internet poster who despises celebrity.
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That might be true, but I don't think I've expressed bitterness about any particular issue in this thread the way Cosby does. What makes you think I despise celebrity?
 
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