Platonic Solids are Geometric Biology

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Because some have never studied biology and the creative basis for all living matter, but just study inanimate unconnected heavenly trivia. Allow me to suggest that the geometry that the ancients knew and passed on in their Mystery Schools is the very basis that would help you connect up what you can't comprehend about all of creation.

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/PlatonicSolid.html

The Platonic solids, also called the regular solids or regular polyhedra, are convex polyhedra with equivalent faces composed of congruent convex regular polygons. There are exactly five such solids (Steinhaus 1999, pp. 252-256): the cube, dodecahedron, icosahedron, octahedron, and tetrahedron, as was proved by Euclid in the last proposition of the Elements. The Platonic solids are sometimes also called "cosmic figures" (Cromwell 1997), although this term is sometimes used to refer collectively to both the Platonic solids and Kepler-Poinsot solids (Coxeter 1973).

The Platonic solids were known to the ancient Greeks, and were described by Plato in his Timaeus ca. 350 BC. In this work, Plato equated the tetrahedron with the "element" fire, the cube with earth, the icosahedron with water, the octahedron with air, and the dodecahedron with the stuff of which the constellations and heavens were made (Cromwell 1997) (END OF EXCERPT)

And so understanding these COSMIC FIGURES in our Earthly world in its biology, is extremely useful... even as Kepler which Wolley refers to... was so inspired concerning...

http://www.mathacademy.com/pr/prime/articles/platsol/index.asp

The Greeks, who were inclined to see in mathematics something of the nature of religious truth, found this business of there being exactly five Platonic solids very compelling. The philosopher Plato concluded that they must be the fundamental building blocks – the atoms – of nature, and assigned to them what he believed to be the essential elements of the universe. He followed the earlier philosopher Empedocles in assigning fire to the tetrahedron, earth to the cube, air to the octahedron, and water to the icosahedron. To the dodecahedron Plato assigned the element cosmos, reasoning that, since it was so different from the others in virtue of its pentagonal faces, it must be what the stars and planets are made of.

Although this might seem naive to us, we should be careful not to smile at it too much: these were powerful ideas, and led to real knowledge.
As late as the 16th century, for instance, Johannes Kepler was applying a similar intuition to attempt to explain the motion of the planets. Early in his life he concluded that the distances of the orbits, which he assumed were circular, were related to the Platonic solids in their proportions. This model is represented in this woodcut from his treatise Mysterium Cosmographicum.(END OF EXCERPT)

For these giants on past science that fought the demented church system and sometimes the political system used the konledge of the ancients to go further.

For listen to what KEPLER had to say...not just about the Platonis SOLIDS but about the GOLDEN SECTION...

http://www.mcs.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/R.Knott/Fibonacci/phi3DGeom.html

Kepler called the golden section "the division of a line into extreme and mean ratio", as did the Greeks. He wrote the following about it:
"Geometry has two great treasures: one is the Theorem of Pythagoras; the other, the division of a line into extreme and mean ratio. The first we may compare to a measure of gold; the second we may name a precious jewel." (END OF EXCERPT)

And notice now he mentioned Pythagorus, who obviously got his training from the Egyptians, as there is nothing new under the SUN, and modern man isn't as advanced as some modern day arrogant scientists assume, especially if they don;t know these BASICS.

Anyway do the resaerch and find out that modern science has found each of these Platonic Shapes NOW.

I'm rather busy, but the truth of harmony, geometry, and the Microcosm and Macrocosm always comes out for those that have the courage to seek. ... for when you seek you find, in the real living world.


http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/ElementsNumbers.html
 
It boggles my tiny, foolish, unwise mind.

How can someone have such a reverence for something like Euclidean geometry, but complete disdain for science and math as they currently exist. The one evolved from the grandest of traditions that gave birth to the other... the quest for knowledge.

:boggled:
 
I wonder what the DJJs did before there was an internet to simultaneously make a spectacle of yourself in front of thousands? All that pamphleteering must have been expensive. And there's only so many soap boxes in the parks.

Even so, who would sit down and write all that drivel knowing it's going to be shot down? Evangelical oddballs are scary :covereyes
 
. . .

As late as the 16th century, for instance, Johannes Kepler was applying a similar intuition to attempt to explain the motion of the planets. Early in his life he concluded that the distances of the orbits, which he assumed were circular, were related to the Platonic solids in their proportions. This model is represented in this woodcut om his treatise Mysterium Cosmographicum.(END OF EXCERPT)

Kepler's idée fixe that the orbits of the planets were somehow related to the Platonic solids and must be circular cost him years of his life trying to make things fit Tycho Brahé's observations. It wasn't until he gave this nonsense up that he developed the Three Laws of Planetary motion based on "imperfect" elipses. So much for Platonic "Science".

:boggled:
 
Although this might seem naive to us, we should be careful not to smile at it too much: these were powerful ideas, and led to real knowledge.
As late as the 16th century, for instance, Johannes Kepler was applying a similar intuition to attempt to explain the motion of the planets. Early in his life he concluded that the distances of the orbits, which he assumed were circular, were related to the Platonic solids in their proportions. This model is represented in this woodcut from his treatise Mysterium Cosmographicum.

The only way that this led to real knowledge, was that later in his life, Kepler concluded that it was all crap. He was very upset to abandon his faith in beautiful geometrical figures, but that was the only thing an honest astronomer could really do. Anyway, that was about 400 years ago, and most of us have gotten over it by now.
 
I'm all for Plato, but I doubt the entire universe is shaped like a dodecahedron.
 
(I hope Darat will allow this hotlink - it's a promotional image anyway...)

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http://www.toonopedia.com/bonkers.jpg
 
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I'm all for Plato, but I doubt the entire universe is shaped like a dodecahedron.

That's basicly the Earth, although its main latitude for volcanos or weak points is at the double tetrahedron latitude exactly of 19.5 degrees if I remember right.

And that is more indesputable proof of geometry being not just in the heads of mathematicians but being the template of DESIGN of the macro and microspheres.
 
I originally posted this in one of DJJ's many other threads, but it's just as relevant here:

...it still burns me up when our forum is exploited by self-important, pretentious, ignorant fools like DJJ, full of false condescension and unwilling (or unable) to engage in meaningful discussion of their ideas. This guy is using us for the bandwidth, to give him a venue in which to preach. And because of our own intellectual honesty, we can't just pull the plug on 'im, which would be sooooo satisfying. :mad:

Anyway, I don't cook much, so:

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That's basicly the Earth, although its main latitude for volcanos or weak points is at the double tetrahedron latitude exactly of 19.5 degrees if I remember right.

And that is more indesputable proof of geometry being not just in the heads of mathematicians but being the template of DESIGN of the macro and microspheres.

According to this handy utility here, I find 50 of them between 18 and 20 degree north, or south, latitude, out of 1750 listed volcanos.

That seems like a random amount to me, and not an indication of the earth's main weak point.
 
Although this might seem naive to us, we should be careful not to smile at it too much: these were powerful ideas, and led to real knowledge.
As late as the 16th century, for instance, Johannes Kepler was applying a similar intuition to attempt to explain the motion of the planets. Early in his life he concluded that the distances of the orbits, which he assumed were circular, were related to the Platonic solids in their proportions. This model is represented in this woodcut from his treatise Mysterium Cosmographicum.(END OF EXCERPT)

What are we to say about Kepler's belief, outlined in Harmonice Mundi, that the planets orbits' produced actual sounds based on their relative polygonal/congruence/harmonic proportions?

Kepler was one of the greatest astronomers of all time. He is my favorite scientist from the history of science. Even so, we must be vigilant not to suggest contemporary ideas/writings that led to discovery as some kind of respectable source. In each age/time there exists a "filter" through which science (and everything else) is viewed. The fact that the "filter" through which Kepler was contrary to fact--the elliptical vs. circular nature of orbits--suggests even more strongly as to his importance for the history of astronomy.

Platonism was very a priori by and about nature. It may have taken a long time for science to overcome this, but the problem still exists (to a much, much lesser degree). Kepler had to overcome this as well. He even thought that the Copernican model of the cosmos was better without all available evidence.
 
You mean to say that the polyhedral dice I use to play "Dungeons & Dragons" have cosmic significance? No wonder I have such tremendous control over the actions of others!

Roll to save versus Charm/Enchantment spells. A natural 20? Too bad ... you must now sign over all your worldly possessions to me and obey my every command...:hypnotize
 
That's basicly the Earth, although its main latitude for volcanos or weak points is at the double tetrahedron latitude exactly of 19.5 degrees if I remember right.
Hmmm, 19.5 degrees...that rings a bell (so to speak). YES! That loveable wackjob Richard Hoagland who appeared on the Art Bell program was enamored with 19.5 degrees.

Are you a Coast-to-Coast fan, Dave?
 

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