Platonic Solids are Geometric Biology

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Wait a minute... how did someone get all of those kittens to lie on those little pillows? My skeptic's alarm is ringing!

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Kittens On Planet X.

Davidjayjordan said:
Because some have never studied biology and the creative basis for all living matter, but just study inanimate unconnected heavenly trivia. Allow me to suggest that the geometry that the ancients knew and passed on in their Mystery Schools is the very basis that would help you connect up what you can't comprehend about all of creation.
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Taking eastern interpretations of nature completely out of context again in yet another thread I see, bong boy. The only 'geometry', if it is constant across the universe and not mutable, is sensory arrangement. One sensed. Two sensed. Three sensed. Four sensed. Five sensed (which include sheep as well as humans), the six sensed Jinn, who don't really apply here because they rarely do anything meaningful or useful, like prevent you from coming near a computer.
 
SezMe said:
Hmmm, 19.5 degrees...that rings a bell (so to speak). YES! That loveable wackjob Richard Hoagland who appeared on the Art Bell program was enamored with 19.5 degrees.

Are you a Coast-to-Coast fan, Dave?
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Even wierdos and NASA can get some things right. But I am a Christian missionary by career choice not a book seller or false skeptic.

But any true skeptic could do the research about 19.5 degrees and read much more than Hoagland... much more. But then false skeptics never want to do the research and always believe what the governments tell them.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=19.5+degrees+&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

Research isn;t that hard, it can be as simple as putting 19.5 degrees in Google, and then having discernment from the Lord based on some principles and facts that you know. The problem with false skeptics is that they know nothing and deny everything and hence have no basis on which to discern. Yet true skeptics go on, and find out truths and connect up biology and geometry and other fields of science.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Sciencemystery.html
 
Cuddles said:
Screw Gord, I declare Wollery the official winner.
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Dear False skeptics, Life is not a word game, this board should not be a word game, with supposed winners in cute snide remarks. Life is suppose to be you learning and growing and becoming mature and more knowledgeable and connecting up more of life.

But when you believe nothing, stand up for nothing and are nothing, that does not make a person a winner, but rather a loser and a false skeptic
 
Davidjayjordan said:
... But then false skeptics never want to do the research and always believe what the governments tell them.

Research isn;t that hard, it can be as simple as putting 19.5 degrees in Google, and then having discernment from the Lord based on some principles and facts that you know...
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I must admit that among researchers that I've known, none of them have suggested that Google is an accepted research method.

Simply pointing out instances where 19.5 degrees are supposed to be evident-although I doubt any of them are exactly 19.5 degrees--is not uncommon in the scientific world. Seemingly unrelated constants such as pi, e, i, etc.--all invented/discovered apart from each other--were found to be more connected than previously believed. Example, e^i(pi)=-1. The result, in and of itself, is overwhelmingly unexpected to a mathematical pedestrian. Would we not expect a universe, governed by physical laws (which we try to explain by theories), to have interrelatedness.

What would be more miraculous is a world in which physical properties were ungoverned, unexpected, random, or otherwise nonconsistent.
 
[7] And the Prophet spake unto the False Ones, saying [8] "But when you believe nothing, stand up for nothing and are nothing, that does not make a person a winner, but rather a loser and a false skeptic." [9] And the Enlightened saw that it was Good. [10] And there was much rejoicing.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Dear False skeptics, Life is not a word game, this board should not be a word game, with supposed winners in cute snide remarks. Life is suppose to be you learning and growing and becoming mature and more knowledgeable and connecting up more of life.

But when you believe nothing, stand up for nothing and are nothing, that does not make a person a winner, but rather a loser and a false skeptic
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I still think my kitten is cuter than all of Wollery's: :D


 
Davidjayjordan said:
The Platonic solids, also called the regular solids or regular polyhedra, are convex polyhedra with equivalent faces composed of congruent convex regular polygons. There are exactly five such solids (Steinhaus 1999, pp. 252-256): the cube, dodecahedron, icosahedron, octahedron, and tetrahedron, as was proved by Euclid in the last proposition of the Elements. The Platonic solids are sometimes also called "cosmic figures" (Cromwell 1997), although this term is sometimes used to refer collectively to both the Platonic solids and Kepler-Poinsot solids (Coxeter 1973).
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Before you expound on the spiritual significance of Platonic solids, you may want to look up the meaning of the word "convex". AFAIK, it generally only applies to curved surfaces.



Davidjayjordan said:
The Greeks, who were inclined to see in mathematics something of the nature of religious truth, found this business of there being exactly five Platonic solids very compelling.
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The Greeks also thought there were only four elements, of which everything was made: earth, air, fire, and water. They were wrong about that too.

Davidjayjordan said:
That's basicly the Earth,
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Wow....:jaw-dropp
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Allow me to suggest that the geometry that the ancients knew and passed on in their Mystery Schools is the very basis that would help you connect up what you can't comprehend about all of creation.
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Translation: 2,500 year-old geometry holds the key to understanding all of creation.

While the Greeks were very good at finding interesting geometric patterns, their conclusions regarding those patterns were just plain guesses with no scientific evidence to back them up. If their guesses were at all accurate, we should easily be able to find evidence of this using our much more advanced methods of observing the natural world.

However, the more we observe about the natural universe, the less Euclidean geometry fits it. The fact that planets do not move in perfect circles is one example. The fact that space is actually curved is another.

However, as you do not even agree that scientists have properly discerned the distance to the moon, chances are you will dismiss this evidence as well.

In this work, Plato equated the tetrahedron with the "element" fire, the cube with earth, the icosahedron with water, the octahedron with air, and the dodecahedron with the stuff of which the constellations and heavens were made
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Right, as I said this was a complete guess. This is to be expected when you leave scientific experimentation in the hands of a philosopher.

The Greeks, who were inclined to see in mathematics something of the nature of religious truth, found this business of there being exactly five Platonic solids very compelling.
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Yeah, Greeks loved interesting numerical relationships and quirky mathematical properties. They loved them so much that they elevated them almost to a religion. It doesn't mean that they were right. And the fact that they were Greek and are long dead doesn't make them any more right.

The philosopher Plato concluded that they must be the fundamental building blocks – the atoms – of nature, and assigned to them what he believed to be the essential elements of the universe.
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Exactly. As stated before, it was a guess. And it was a wrong guess. These are not the fundamental building blocks of nature and all our evidence of the fundamental building blocks shows that they do not look like them. Atoms are clouds of electron potentialities resembling doughnuts, teardrops, barbells and things that look nothing like these geometric oddities.

To the dodecahedron Plato assigned the element cosmos, reasoning that, since it was so different from the others in virtue of its pentagonal faces, it must be what the stars and planets are made of.
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And, seeing as we've been to the moon and examined rocks from Mars, we now know that Plato was wrong. It's not really suprising given that his idea was nothing more than a guess.

Although this might seem naive to us, we should be careful not to smile at it too much: these were powerful ideas, and led to real knowledge.
As late as the 16th century, for instance, Johannes Kepler was applying a similar intuition to attempt to explain the motion of the planets.
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Incorrectly, as has been pointed out. Once Kepler showed the world that nature did not have to be precise and uniform, real discoveries started pouring in.

For these giants on past science that fought the demented church system and sometimes the political system used the konledge of the ancients to go further.
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Utterly incorrect in every respect. These "ancients" you speak of were just Greek people. They didn't have any more abilities than we do. Their society was warlike, classist, slave-holding, repressive and frequently drunk.

And notice now he mentioned Pythagorus, who obviously got his training from the Egyptians,
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Obviously? What is obvious about this? Moreover, what would be the advantage of being trained by Egyptians. I mean, you're talking about a people who dedicated their entire existence to building really extravagant graveyards.

Anyway do the resaerch and find out that modern science has found each of these Platonic Shapes NOW.
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Found them? We never lost them. We just stopped caring around about the time it became obvious that they were useless.

for when you seek you find, in the real living world.
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You say that but I still can't get any information on Natalie Portman's phone number. And I've been seeking that for years.
 
Why would anyone be interested in ressurecting a long-dead religion, especially one based on mathmatical concepts?

Why not the worship of Bacchus, or Aphrodite, or both? Imagine ... every worship service involves alcohol and/or copulation... :wide-eyed :covereyes
 
Loss Leader said:
You say that but I still can't get any information on Natalie Portman's phone number. And I've been seeking that for years.
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You just haven't been looking in the right place. She gave it to me a few years back. 555-1212. Unfortunately, she's got this rather nasty secretary or something who screens her calls and refuses to just transfer me no matter how politely I ask.
 
drkitten said:
You just haven't been looking in the right place. She gave it to me a few years back. 555-1212. Unfortunately, she's got this rather nasty secretary or something who screens her calls and refuses to just transfer me no matter how politely I ask.
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Try asking in English, instead of constantly repeating, "Wei".
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Even wierdos and NASA can get some things right. But I am a Christian missionary by career choice not a book seller or false skeptic.

But any true skeptic could do the research about 19.5 degrees and read much more than Hoagland... much more. But then false skeptics never want to do the research and always believe what the governments tell them.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=19.5+degrees+&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

Research isn;t that hard, it can be as simple as putting 19.5 degrees in Google, and then having discernment from the Lord based on some principles and facts that you know. The problem with false skeptics is that they know nothing and deny everything and hence have no basis on which to discern. Yet true skeptics go on, and find out truths and connect up biology and geometry and other fields of science.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Sciencemystery.html
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Then how should we characterize you, who chooses to ignore my bit of research that refutes your claim of a clustering of volcanos at 19.5 degrees?

Didn't you just "believe what someone told you" without doing any research. Or even worse, you willfully ignore the facts that make your, taken on faith, beliefs wrong.
 
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