432 shows harmony of Sun, Moon, Earth Design

[Beleth]

Resorting to name calling I see Beleth.

Not name calling; fact declaring.

Obviously because you want a box sticking out of the EARTH.

What I want is irrelevant. The Word of GOD is the Word of GOD and what you say is simply contrary to the word of GOD.

and have no answers and can;t think out of your box.

What you call "the box", Saint Matthew in 7:13-14 calls "the narrow way". Wander outside of the narrow way if you wish; only you will have to answer for it later.

But degrading yourself by calling me a liar, and idolator for being a Christian missionary is rather a strong accussation, especially when the focus of my website is

...phi, not Jesus. I'd only degrade myself if I didn't call you out as a liar and idolator. Nothing degrading comes out of telling the truth.

So call me a liar if you like, but that's hardly discussing a topic, just you getting angry and frustrasted.

Please don't transfer your anger and frustration on to me. I rejoice in the fact that I have had the opportunity to wipe the scales from your eyes so that you can see what you are actually preaching and the damage you are doing to yourself.

And besides Beleth, how can New Jerusalem have a wall around it it it has straight sides and is a cube.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS IN THE BIBLE.

That's the way, uh huh uh huh, God built it, uh huh uh huh.

Its sides and WALLs should be 12,000 furlongs according to your architecture. NO Beleth, it has a wall and then a phi pyramid within.

NO Davidjayjordan, it does not.

All space encapsulates cubes, not sphers or any other geometric shape, because with cubes there is no unfilled space. New jerusalem includes its wall, and its phi pyramid as that projercts to all the Universe as mentioned.

I'm sure you will forgive me for not believing this childish story you have made up.

Remember Beleth, calling someone a liar and a idolator is a rather severe accussation so if wrong, well you know.

No, Davidjayjordan, please tell me what happens to liars and idolators.

But try. Mathew 23, as I think you must have read my other thread on the Religious Board, that says "Churches are dangerous"

One topic at a time, please. No, I haven't read that yet, because I'm waiting for you to explain why you claimed that (1 + sqrt(5))/2 is equal to (4/pi)^2.

And so you thought you should come over HERE and blast me for being against your church system. That's probably what happenned to you.

Ahh yes, the heat's too much for you to bear, so you decide to ignore your faults and try to glean something about me. That's the typical tactic when one is starting to realize just how wrong they have been through their life. Let it flow through you and heal you. Better to face the heat now than to face the heat later....

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

I didn't ask for an apology.

I have. Twice.

 

[wollery]

Darn Wolley, now you are saying NASA made a typo... and using fluctuation variation as I did before, and yet I got condemned for saying such.

Whatever, an amzingly FIND I saw was the fluctuation orbits of the earth and Moon as the Earth is cojoined to the MOON it seems. And I shant go further on that topic as it is part of the Sexual Mysteries, and the Earth is attracted to the SUN when the Moon is away from the earth. Wheres that graphic...... the perfect orbit of the Earth around the SUN does not exist as there is b*** center. You must know about it, as gravitational forces of the Earth and Moon with the Sun/Son make its pathway orbit a point outside their masses. Hmm maybe this is why there is that gravitational gap between the Earth and ther Moon exists. Just compare the masses of the Moon and earth, and then see if that ratio is the same ratio of 240,000 with 216,00 or vice versa with 26,000. Check it out and I will try to get that link for you, but I'm sure you must have studied it previously. The wobble pathway of the earth, YES, but the cojoined Earth Moon Masses together make a perfect circle... amazing, which means the future cojoining would be ........

The path of the Earth-Moon system round the Sun is an ellipse, as are almost all orbits in the entire Universe. Read up on Kepler's Laws.

You reference Kepler on your own website.

 

[Hokulele]

Sorry to backtrack a bit, but I have 2 requests regarding the units being used in this post. The first relates to a reference made by DJJ a few pages ago.

And he that talked with me had a GOLDEN REED to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof. And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand FURLONGS. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four CUBITS, according to the MEASURE of a man, that is, of the angel. Revelation 21: 15-17

In other words, the FURLONG wasn’t just any length of measure but the divine measuring stick, or GOLDEN REED reed used by the Lord's angel. This sacred measure of the angel was the FURLONG of 660 ‘ or 7920 "

Based on this quote from Revelations, the reed was used to measure, and the answer is reported in furlongs. Nowhere does it mention the reed itself is one furlong. The reed may have been 30 cm, 68.23 nautical miles, or 15 twips. Please cite a reference where a reed is defined as one furlong if you propose to use the Bible to define the furlong as a preferred unit.

When you designate the foot as a preferred unit, do you mean the US Survey Foot, or the International Foot? There is a difference. Please tell me which one you are using and why.

If you do a Google on "US Survey Foot" (include the quotes), it should take you to a website which gives a very concise description of the two.

I am sorry I cannot post links yet, and hopefully someone with more seniority can take this and convert it to a legible link.

 

[CapelDodger]

You, sir, are unspeakably arrogant.

But I do seek and discern, and that is why I find the warmed-over, half-digested contents of your platter so unappetizing.

So how far from the earth is the moon, now?

How far right now? Not the same distance as when you asked. And not the same distance as when you read this reply. Not the same distance when I finish it as when I started. Tricksy elliptical orbits and even more tricksy tidal effects, why can't the Moon and Sun just go around the Earth in neat, constant circles? What's that all about? Intelligent design my arse .

 

[wollery]

Von Braun knew of 216,000 miles as well

Wolley and ALL, Both NASA and Von Braun agree that the neutral point between the earth and the Moon is 216,000

SEE http://www.fixedearth.com/tides.htm

And the bibliogrpahy afterwards.. So NASA didnt make a typo, Wolley

Not to be too disparaging, but this site is written by a guy who thinks that the Earth doesn't orbit the Sun, and the Moon doesn't cause the tides. Regardless, what that site says is that the value of 216,000 miles was an old calculated value which NASA found to be wrong. So your happy why?

And 216,000 miles from earth is the exact point in other words where the barycenter (might be speeled bery center, lost that hyperlink) must be located to make that exact center revolve around the Sun, or **********

The word is barycentre (all one word) and is located almost 2000km below the surface of the Earth. Seriously, google "Earth Moon Barycentre", and see what you get.

this is hwy this berry center exactly 216,000 miles away from the Earth, revolves in an exact circle around the SUN...why because the Earth and Moon are cojoined and gravitationally must act as one at the bery center,
hence allowing the MOON to revolve around the Earth while their berry center continues in a perfcet circle around the Sun at exactly 216,000 miles away from the earth.

At the risk of sounding like prewitt81 - Nope. See previous post and above.

Whewee, don't you just love it when things and concepts CUM together like the Earth and the Moon. And to think calling down the Moon by the ancients was of course devoid, because of their source. But you will balk at that, so lets keep to science and the amazing 216,000 mile distance....

Feel free to jump with joy over a rounded off number that doesn't actually correspond to anything. The Moon's distance from the Earth varies from 225,700 to 252,000 miles over the course of its orbit, which means that the distance to the neutral gravity point also varies. Values quoted on most websites are averages over time. So quite frankly, it doesn't matter wether the simplistic value is 216,000 miles or 201,600 miles or even if it's 240,000 miles. It's an average, not a hard value. And it's rounded down anyway! If it were divinely ordained and had any real significance I would think it would be exact and invariable. Or maybe that's just me.

 

[CapelDodger]

When you designate the foot as a preferred unit, do you mean the US Survey Foot, or the International Foot? There is a difference. Please tell me which one you are using and why.

If you do a Google on "US Survey Foot" (include the quotes), it should take you to a website which gives a very concise description of the two.

I am sorry I cannot post links yet, and hopefully someone with more seniority can take this and convert it to a legible link.

This guy should provide you with plenty of material to get your post-count up. (And Hi from me.) He's the JREF equivalent of a karate practice-pad, something impervious to try out your moves on. No need to worry about him getting-off on the attention, he's reached saturation-point within his own skull. Someone should bore a hole in it to let his demons out ... . (Smilie added to avoid accusations of incitement.)

 

[CapelDodger]

... Sun/Son ...

Sun/Son? Soleil/Fils? Is English also divinely ordained?

There was this British chap back in the 19thCE, I forget his name but he garnered a following, who had the Saxons down as the lost tribe of Israel because Saxons was a contraction of Isaac's Sons. Straight up. Of course, the Victorians were a tad Anglo-Centric.

 

[Hokulele]

Thanks CapelDodger!

I do need some practice with "new moves", and it is always appreciated to have talented "spotters" while training. You're right, given the length of this thread already, I'll be up to 15 posts in no time, then I can start backing up my comments with real references rather than vague Google terms.

Now let's see DJJ's response to my requests . . .

 

[CapelDodger]

Values quoted on most websites are averages over time. So quite frankly, it doesn't matter wether the simplistic value is 216,000 miles or 201,600 miles or even if it's 240,000 miles. It's an average, not a hard value.

And over time, the average changes.

And it's rounded down anyway! If it were divinely ordained and had any real significance I would think it would be exact and invariable.

The real significance has been in prompting humanity to discover the exact and invariable rules of mathematics. Not to mention the importance of mathematics in understanding how the real universe operates, aka physics.

Or maybe that's just me.

As if .

 

[SimonD]

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Paul

I think it's a car

 

[Paulhoff]

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[wollery]

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Hey!

There's no call for language like that!!!

 

[Paulhoff]

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[CapelDodger]

I do need some practice with "new moves", and it is always appreciated to have talented "spotters" while training. You're right, given the length of this thread already, I'll be up to 15 posts in no time, then I can start backing up my comments with real references rather than vague Google terms.

Links are good, but not everything. Remember that DJJ is just a practice-pad; when you get in the ring with a live opponent it's a very different matter. DJJ is not a live opponent, but there are some clever ones out there and they have links as well.

 

[CapelDodger]

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He's put a hex on us all ! Burn him!

 

[Paulhoff]

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[Gord_in_Toronto]

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[Hokulele]

Links are good, but not everything. Remember that DJJ is just a practice-pad; when you get in the ring with a live opponent it's a very different matter. DJJ is not a live opponent, but there are some clever ones out there and they have links as well.

Thanks, I agree, precisely why I should warm up here first.

 

[Athyrio]

I ventured to JRE, because I found out from my 'referrence' stats from my website that people were accessing

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/432KeyofStarofDavid.html

from HERE.... In case, it was being discussed without me being present, I figured I might as well join...as there might be some thinkers among you.

First, i would like to say mes excuses to all of the members of this forum for having lured David Jay Jordan to this board. i will deservedly accept my cyber-caning at your leisure.

Secondly, let me assure you that he is real, that he is serious, and that he believes in many other far-fetched things that have not actually been shown on this board, but are accessible at his website.

Thirdly, he is a troll, though he does not intend to be one, by the mere action of not thoroughly discussing his viewpoints, not reading and absorbing the content of replies to his posts, not admitting the errors (forget the grammar - that's hopeless!) in his feeble attempt at mathematics and scientific research (yet he chooses to be known as a "scholar" on JREF), and, above all, by only being here to educate the ignorant "goyum", not to exchange ideas.

i have been reading all of his many posts here and on the Religion forum of JREF since he landed but have refrained from joining in until now, and that was because of the posts he has made on another forum cited below about his exploits here on JREF. Please visit it. Thanks to all of you who responded in kind and i also fully understand what i consider to be levity and not abuse in a number of replies to his posts. He certainly took it as an affront and in violation of the rules, but ask him, in his capacity as a truth-telling Christian, just how many message boards are there from which he has received the proverbial boot.

Texastwister nailed it with this:

When people show the fundamental errors in your beliefs you can not accept this, because it will invalidate what you have spent your entire life working towards.

However, a multi-faceted fixed delusion of this magnitude most likely will never be altered.

The website below is where he currently posts.

http://b5.boards2go.com/boards/board...0&user=Lindatx

Witness the paranoia in this post.

http://b5.boards2go.com/boards/board...2&user=Lindatx

and "Wolley" (Wollery), take particular interest in this:

http://b5.boards2go.com/boards/board...6&user=Lindatx