432 shows harmony of Sun, Moon, Earth Design

Davidjayjordan said:
Then Simon. please reframe from again misquoting me in the future, as that is hardly honourable. Just quote what I have actually written, not what you think I said or meant. That would be in your response if you choose but it should NOT be shown as my quote. Thanks.
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Then Davidjayjordan please reframe from again posting such hilarious, idiotic nonsense that has no realtionship to reality as that is hardly honourable. Come back when you have learned a little science and politeness.

Thank you.
 
[QUOTE="wollery']How about addressing the fact that the distance you use for the Earth-Moon separation being wrong?[/QUOTE]

Obviously, his earth-moon separation is wrong because an angel measured it with a stick.

In other words, the FURLONG wasn’t just any length of measure but the divine measuring stick, or GOLDEN REED reed used by the Lord's angel.
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But let's be duly impressed, because it's a golden stick. Ooooh.

Our measurements of the moon's distance come from large-baseline interferometry using superconducting quantum measuring devices; meanwhile the Angel's just floating out there in space, putting its divine finger on the spot of empty space at the end of the stick, moving the stick so its other end is lined up with its finger (which it tries very hard to keep very still), and counting, "341,216..."

Clearly the angel needs us to enlighten it... not too much at once, of course, because by definition an omniscient being cannot learn anything anyhow, but perhaps it might be able to move on from a stick to maybe a tape measure, and eventually, in another millennium perhaps, into the very basic trigonometry that surveyors use every day. (Don't tell the angel about GPS; it's likely to get violent and we can't have that because after all, it's armed with a stick.)

Wake up, heaven and earth: we've moved on from sticks. Just like the stupid golden ratio and the Fibonacci series, which I learned about in fourth grade, after which I soon moved on and learned about exponents, logarithms, trigonometry, vectors, linear algebra, derivatives, integrals, set theory, computing theory... DJJ, can you enlighten us about the mystic properties of the hyperbolic cosine function or the divine significance of Stokes' Theorem, or did the all angels who measure things with sticks drop out of college in the year 1600? You want to talk about transcendental numbers, tell us about how eix = cos x + i sin x gives us the keys to the holy complex plane where no ox ever plowed. (BTW, we don't plow an acre a day with oxen any more, have you heard?) Show us where the number 792 arises in the Schroedinger Wave Equation that describes the shapes of the bonds that hold atoms together. Show us the closed-form solution to the Newtonian three-body problem that your insight into the number of slug-barrel-furlongs-per-leap-year-hectare-fortnight in a kilowatt-hour leads you to. Show us what the dimensions of the Great Pyramid tell you about P = NP. C'mon, don't hold back. Give us the good stuff.

Respectfully (though it might not seem so, the above actually is, in a deeper way that you might someday understand),
Myriad
 
Myriad said:
....exponents, logarithms, trigonometry, vectors, linear algebra, derivatives, integrals, set theory, computing theory...


....You want to talk about transcendental numbers, tell us about how eix = cos x + i sin x gives us the keys to the holy complex plane where no ox ever plowed. (BTW, we don't plow an acre a day with oxen any more, have you heard?) Show us where the number 792 arises in the Schroedinger Wave Equation that describes the shapes of the bonds that hold atoms together. Show us the closed-form solution to the Newtonian three-body problem that your insight into the number of slug-barrel-furlongs-per-leap-year-hectare-fortnight in a kilowatt-hour leads you to. Show us what the dimensions of the Great Pyramid tell you about P = NP. C'mon, don't hold back. Give us the good stuff.
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Myriad - that will be too hard for him. COS and Schroedinger are not mentioned in bible, but there is a lot of SIN :)
 
Myriad said:
Our measurements of the moon's distance come from large-baseline interferometry using superconducting quantum measuring devices; meanwhile the Angel's just floating out there in space, putting its divine finger on the spot of empty space at the end of the stick, moving the stick so its other end is lined up with its finger (which it tries very hard to keep very still), and counting, "341,216..."
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Actually the best measurements come from bouncing radio signals or laser beams off the Moon's surface. The observatory I work at do this sort of thing as a long term monitoring program.
 
wollery said:
Actually the best measurements come from bouncing radio signals or laser beams off the Moon's surface. The observatory I work at do this sort of thing as a long term monitoring program.
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Whew! For a second there I thought you were going to say, "Actually the best measurements come from using a stick." :eek:

I was thinking of distance measurements of more distant bodies. (And I was actually going to add, "... or lasers and atomic clocks," but that seemed to confuse the issue.) I stand corrected. The moon's much bigger and closer than extrasolar bodies. I suppose using VLBI to measure the moon's distance would be a bit like using a surveyor's theodalite and rangefinder to measure your windows for drapes.

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Good post Beleth as the PHI pyramid of New Jerusalem, is in a cube.
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Thanks!

Actually there's no pyramid in New Jerusalem mentioned in the Bible; it's just a big cube.

As all creation, came from the ultimate CUBE, the ratios of the Holy of Holies. 15 cubits by 15 cubits by 15 cubits.... this contained the ARK of the Covenant and its measurements which by DESIGN were the copied measurements of power for the sacrophagus of GIZA, the Great Pyramid. By chance no by DESIGN.
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The Pyramids were definitely designed. But they were designed by men, not God. The Great Pyramid was designed by the pharaoh Khufu and other Egyptians, who had no intention of following God, and were surely not designed by the Jews.

I know you believe that Enoch designed the Pyramid, but I don't see any evidence of that. Gen 5:21-24 mentions Enoch, but not that he designed the pyramids; and the apocryphal Book of Enoch (Enoch 1) doesn't mention the pyramids at all, if I'm not mistaken.


Do the research....or
SEE and study http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Gizasaccophagus.html
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Okay, a couple of questions about that page.

You say that the Giza sarcophagus is "exactly the same demensions as the ARK of the Covenant". I'd like to know where you got the data for the size of the sarcophagus. The Ark's dimensions are well known; it was 3.75' x 2.25' x 2.25'. I note that the Egyptians typically layed their rulers out flat and straight when they were entombed, and thus the ruler in the Giza sarcophagus would have had to be shorter than three-foot-nine in order to fit in the sarcophagus. Since I do not believe this to be the case, I'd like to see the data you collected on the size of the sarcophagus.

You mention that the ratio of the dimensions of the Ark, 1.5:1.5:2.5 (or, equal but easier to read, 3:3:5) are "sacred and powerful by their geometry because it relates back to the LORD’s creative process". I'm wondering how you came up with that theory. Where else in the Bible is that ratio found?

And do notice the its capstone was the exact size to encapsulate the Holy of Holies cube.
A phi capstone of I think it was 16 feet inside a capstone of 22.5 feet or 15 cubits. Chance NO... DESIGN.
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Again I agree. Definitely designed by a man.


And then understand that we or our representative can eneter into the Holy of Holies and before His Rauch or Spirit.

SEE http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/ManinHolyofHolies.html
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Okay, a couple questions about that page too.

As I'm sure you are aware, phi is an exact number. It is exactly equal to (1 + sqrt(5)) / 2. 1.6180339887498948482045868343656... No more, no less. Yet on that page you claim that it is a different number - to wit, (4/pi)^2. That number is also exactly calculable. 1.6211389382774043431020714113556...

Now, anyone can see that those two numbers are not equal. And yet, on that page, you claim they are. How do you explain this discrepancy?

I'm also confused by the dimensions and ratios you give for the Great Pyramid. You claim the side of a base was 792', when it was actually 756'. Likewise, its height was actually 481', but your page says it was 504'. Again, I'd like you to explain these multiple-foot discrepancies, given the fact that you claim the pyramids are so precise that they predict timeframes in inches.

Thanks Beleth for the insight to mention this, even if you didn;t intend to do so, and help in the explanation of phi and 432. Much appreciated
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My intent is to find the truth, of course. And don't thank me too soon; we have barely scratched the surface of phi, and haven't even touched 432 yet.
 
Myriad said:
Whew! For a second there I thought you were going to say, "Actually the best measurements come from using a stick." :eek:
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Measuring with a stick isn't hard, it is finding a ladder big enough that’s the problem. :mad:

Paul

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i) Creationism
ii) Numerology
iii) Da Vinci Code Support
iv) The 'wisdom' of the ancients
v) Moon shot denial
vi) Shape-shifting reptilians
vii) Atlantis
viii) Crystals

And from the Bible is inerrant thread:
Davidjayjordan said:
SEE Darwins rebuttal of his theory, and SEE Vieloksky's , an honest evolutionist,
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ix) Velikovsky

Wow.
 
wollery said:
Actually the best measurements come from bouncing radio signals or laser beams off the Moon's surface. The observatory I work at do this sort of thing as a long term monitoring program.
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Don't they bounce lasers off of the reflector placed there by the Apollo astronauts? Oh wait, I forgot, they didn't really go there.
 
Wait, if we take 432 and turn it around we get 234 and if we add them together we get 666 ohhhhhhhhhhhh.

Paul

:) :) :)
 
Foster Zygote said:
Don't they bounce lasers off of the reflector placed there by the Apollo astronauts? Oh wait, I forgot, they didn't really go there.
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Theoretically, NASA could have sent an unmanned vehicle to place reflectors on the moon. But as other poster have mentioned, the Russians would have exposed the US a long time ago if the moon landing were a hoax.
 
Foster Zygote said:
Don't they bounce lasers off of the reflector placed there by the Apollo astronauts? Oh wait, I forgot, they didn't really go there.
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You don't need to, but if you don't then you need a much stronger laser. Besides, the radar works just as well.
 
i) Creationism
ii) Numerology
iii) Da Vinci Code Support
iv) The 'wisdom' of the ancients
v) Moon shot denial
vi) Shape-shifting reptilians
vii) Atlantis
viii) Crystals
ix) Velikovsky

x) A Jewish cabal controls the public school system
 
simon dalton said:
But your numbers are wrong and so is your math. Math's has nothing to do with faith. 2+2 will always equal 4.

You just fit the numbers to your theory. It should be the other way round.

ETA A person with an open mind will see their mistakes and take steps to change the way they think
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Not necessarily :)

#define MY_TWO 2.5
#include stdio.h
#include stdlib.h
int main(void)
{
double two = MY_TWO;
printf("two plus two = %d\n", two + two);
return EXIT_SUCCESS;
}
Complie with a decent C-Compiler and see the result.

Using similar constructs he might actually create a computer simulation of his "universe"
ROTFL
 
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Myriad said:
Obviously, his earth-moon separation is wrong because an angel measured it with a stick.




Respectfully (though it might not seem so, the above actually is, in a deeper way that you might someday understand),
Myriad
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Obviously you don't know more than an angel of the lord, Myriad. And wouldn;t say such mockery to their face when they are carrying such a big rod. Nevertheless... its good you understand PHI or the golden section.... even though your knowledge of the furlong is somewhat lacking. So sincere researchers, to understand the Golden Section, please go to the other thread or start HERE.. http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Goldensection.html and then we can hear what Myriad knows or has studied.

So Myriad, say on about what you learned after grade 4, in connecting up the dots and creation of life. I wouldn't mind at all, as it would definitely be a help in this thread.

So do respectfully add to our knowledge and understanding Myriad as you mentioned because PHI goes DEEP. Hoping to hear more from you if you were sincere about posting what you know.
 
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Ladewig said:
Theoretically, NASA could have sent an unmanned vehicle to place reflectors on the moon. But as other poster have mentioned, the Russians would have exposed the US a long time ago if the moon landing were a hoax.
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Russia would have been jeered by the skeptics, as the majority want to believe in the accomplishments of man to give them hope for the future.

And Russia at that stage was in turmoil, and economically hurting under the misconceptions of communist philosphy.

So America went on with the BIG LIE, and wasn't called to the carpet for their lie. They needed it to fund NASA, and it worked on the goyum....dumb sheep to the slaughter. The pics have proven to be earth made and total frauds. Do the research

I mean its insanity to think decades ago when they just got off the ground, and instantly got the technology to go to the MOON and back, thru the Van Allen belt and stay intact without melting. believe that and they will tell you another one.

But go to current events as Putin is getting bolder and shall develop a missile defense system FIRST as prophetically there will be a unilateral nuclear war with the AC of Russia winning and taking over the whole world.

But now back to the delusion of the Moon walk. Maybe they should have hired Michael Jackson
 
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