432 shows harmony of Sun, Moon, Earth Design

[wollery]

As mentioned on my website.. the Earth is the Center of the Universe, for easy to understand reasons once you see Design. Its diameter, circumference, distances from Moon and Sun and who was born HERE makes it the headquarters of the Creator who created all.... But that will take more than a few seconds to figure out, as it takes some study.

But then most of you are stuck on Page one, because your minds are closed.

SEE red Light shift and the earth is the center of the Universe

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Theearthisthecenter.html

I read it, and pointed out the errors to you. Did you bother to actually read my points.

As for the collision courses of the Milkly way and our Solar System that is explainable again as in 2012 the Lord of the Universe will allow the changing of the guards, so the goyum can rule for their short period.

SEE http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/2012StartofGreatTribulation.html

Apparently you only skimmed my post. The Milky way and the Solar system aren't on a collission course. There's nothing coming anywhere near us in 2012, or anywhere near that time. The Sun is a smallish, unremarkable, run of the mill star embedded in the Orion arm of the Milky Way galaxy. The Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies are on a collision course, but this will not occur for several million years.

for again Woll, you have to admit that the jungle Nayans did not get their knowledge from themselves but from spiritual entities. Do the research and stop thinking modern man is so intelligent and to be praised and worshipped.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/MayanCultureand2012.html

I don't think that modern man is any more intelligent than the Mayans. Mainly because the Mayans were modern humans, just like us! Furthermore I don't think we are worthy of praise and worship. In fact, as a race, I believe we deserve scorn for the way we treat the planet we live on and the other lifeforms which inhabit it. The reason the Mayan calendar ends in 2012 is because it is a cyclical calendar, and starts to repeat on 22 December 2012. I think you've been watching too much X-Files.

So let me say the following as simply as I can;

You completely fail to actually address my points. I suspect that this is because you can't, most likely because you get all of your astronomy knowledge from a few select places, which are written by people with only the most fleeting knowledge of the subject themselves, and are thus unaware of the real facts, and unequipped to do anything more than repeat your mantras.

Your webpage states that all stars and galaxies are moving away from the Earth. This is not true. I know this for a fact, because I have measure the redshifts of several stars myself. Of all the stars whose redshifts I have measured approximately half have negative redshifts. This means that about half the stars I have personally examined are moving towards us. Others have measured the redshifts of numerous galaxies, and whilst most are indeed moving away from us, a small number are not, the Andromeda galaxy being the most obvious example of this. The statements on your website are therefore false.

The Earth is demonstrably not the centre of the Universe - it's possible to measure the Solar system's orbital velocity around the Galactic centre, and you yourself state on another page on your website that the earth orbits the Sun.

You claim to be scientific and good at maths, but I doubt you have the first clue about relativity, which can very well explain the Universal expansion, without the arrogance of giving our insignificant planet a central role.

You clearly don't understand how science works, you're maths is erroneous, being based on incorrect values, and you make several statements which are demostrably false. Many of these have been pointed out to you, but you either ignore or dismiss them. You are wilfully ignorant, arrogant, bigoted, and hypocritical. You believe you have been given an insight into fundamental truth by God himself, and continue to accuse all atheists of exactly the things that you yourself demonstrate in almost every post you make.

 

[JonnyFive]

Do you have any proof man the moon landing footage and evidence was faked, or is this another "don't be like a child and ask for evidence" things?

I noticed that this guy's profile lists his interests as "fishing-love-sex"... that's right, not "fishing", "love", "sex", but all three merged together into some kind of unholy union of evil.

Either he's just confused about how to use the tags, or... there's something more to this. Since we're in conspiro-mode, I choose to believe the latter and nothing anyone says can convince me otherwise.

Sorry, David, but please take your perverse fish love somewhere else.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

These are two things that you have shown that you haven't the slightest idea about. You cherry-pick your numbers until you find something that is remotely close to what you want, no matter if they are related or not. You show that you have no idea of the history of the world and or the universe. You still haven’t told me have fast the one pound of matter will go if given one pound of energy in percent of the speed of light in a vacuum.

Paul

Paul, Paul, how many times do I have to tell you, they are not my numbers, they are Pythagorus numbers, Plato's numbers,, they are the very essense and simpliest of basic numbers of Sacred Geometry. i didn;t make'em up or create them or measure them, just have went through the long process of seeing how they relate to the real world. So go ahead and blame Plato, Pythagorus, and scared geometry, and the ancient wisdon that has been around since the beginning because you don;t have time in the HERE and NOW to think anyone knows more than you and you still can;t get by the basic because of your stubbornness. Not my fault, you bore me...

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Do you have any proof man the moon landing footage and evidence was faked, or is this another "don't be like a child and ask for evidence" things?

I noticed that this guy's profile lists his interests as "fishing-love-sex"... that's right, not "fishing", "love", "sex", but all three merged together into some kind of unholy union of evil.

Either he's just confused about how to use the tags, or... there's something more to this. Since we're in conspiro-mode, I choose to believe the latter and nothing anyone says can convince me otherwise.

Sorry, David, but please take your perverse fish love somewhere else.

Johnny, sex can't be talked about HERE because of the rules, so please respect their wishes. if they will allow a discussion so be it as you truly are frustrated and in need of liberation, and yet that topic can NOT be discussed.

Stick to the topic at hand without wandering all over your half acre due to your lack of concentration.

Keep your snide rude remarks strictly about 432 and sacred geometry in this thread. Thanks hope you comply to the rules HERE.

 

[Paulhoff]

Paul, Paul, how many times do I have to tell you, they are not my numbers, they are Pythagorus numbers, Plato's numbers,, ..

You are using them as a fact, and you are miss using them, they are therefore your numbers now.

Now how fast is that one pound of matter traveling at.

Paul

 

[Paulhoff]

Johnny, sex can't be talked about HERE because of the rules

BS, you just don't know anything about sex and don't what us to know that.

Paul

 

[wollery]

Johnny, sex can't be talked about HERE because of the rules, so please respect their wishes. if they will allow a discussion so be it as you truly are frustrated and in need of liberation, and yet that topic can NOT be discussed.

Stick to the topic at hand without wandering all over your half acre due to your lack of concentration.

Keep your snide rude remarks strictly about 432 and sacred geometry in this thread. Thanks hope you comply to the rules HERE.

Actually sex can be talked about on this forum, and frequently is. You just aren't allowed to use certain words to describe it.

 

[flim flam]

wow djj you've got it all!
pyramids, atlantis, the da vinci code..

admit it, you're erich von dannikin arent you?

and FYI, "my heart will go on" has been scientifically proved to be the work of satan...

 

[Darth Rotor]

{note by DR: this was @Mercutio, who is a very nice fellow, not a caustic, flame spitting curmudgeon like Darth Rotor}
But let me suggest to you, that each and every subject has to be weighed and discerned without going to the extreme and negating everything with a ten second browse.

*shakes head* I think I follow you.

Its called logic and math. Logic deals with set theory, where you learn logically and rationally what ideals or truths or statistics very what conclusion, or what fits into what.

I am still with you: teaching Grandma how to suck eggs. I too have done that on internet forums.

I have to admit that there are some church people that are good, and that it is only the dam church system that needs to go.

Groovin' on the love here, I am still with you. The dam church holds back the flood waters of evil sometimes, though at other times it blocks the flow of good things.

Hence Mercutio, I don't like wordly numerology etc. it is basically a crock.

So you created a site for, and pontificate on, wordy numerology?

We have to judge everyone and every subject OBJECTIVELY rather than subjectively.

It's more effective to do both, and not fall into a needless "either / or" fallacy.

You see HERE, with group pressure, you are forced to post according to group principles or lack of them. Your peer pressure forces you into compliance and denial.

Not so with me, fortunately, since I Am Not An Atheist.

Daarth, I am giving you the benfit of the doubt to start with and so shall answer your question despite your rather obnoxious ending.

Darth. And thanks for answering. You've caught a few heat rounds so far.

I am showing Design, and hence a Designer to possibly connect up your brain rather than having it disjointed and having your hemispheres severed and your synapsis misfiring because your knowledge in not integrated but isolated into various non communicating subjects.

My right brain and left brain are connected, thanks.
*(sings to the tune of the old spiritual "Dry Bones") *

My brain bone's connected to my
spine bone
My spine bone's connected to my
nerve bone,
My nerve bone's connected to my
finger bone
Now read the words of my Post

Secular means a way to make money in the HERE and NOW to keep our bodies going.
Materialistism is the worship of money and power, and that can easily happen when someone doesn't have depth, purpose or spirituality.
Goyum is a Jewish phrase that means the masses that are lead to the slaughter because of their lack of knowledge.
Indocrination is what we are taught that is meant to control us and make us submissive to those that control

.
I was so hoping that your phrase, the one I didn't grasp, would be a synthesis that was greater than the sum of its parts. Sadly, it is not. Thanks for your explanation, which is a bewildering juxtaposition of factors. By the way:
indoctrination
goyim
"led to the slaughter." Lead is a soft metal, found in the paint chips you snacked on as a kid.

*Grammarian hat removed.*

As I understand you, I am among the goyim? Bah, I am doomed by not being a Jew. Woe is me. Wait a moment, should that be "baaa baaa!" instead of "bah?"
From http://www.faqs.org/faqs/judaism/FAQ/11-Miscellaneous/section-6.html

"Goy" [plural: goyim, adjective: goyishe] is the standard Hebrew term
for non-Jew. Literally it is the Hebrew for "nation." Spoken aloud with a disgusted inflection, it's pejorative. So is the word 'Jew' in similar circumstances. Better to say "gentile" or "non-Jew" when writing in English

In the phrase "shabbos goy"--a gentile who does things for Jews on Shabbos -- it is neutral, yet when refusing to do something for someone by saying "I'm not your shabbos goy", it carries a derogatory tinge.

Some also suggest avoiding the term "Marrano", which means "pig". Depending on the intended meaning, the terms "Sephardic" or "Crypto-Jew" are more appropriate

Hint for DJJ: If you are going to use perjorative terms, you might want to learn what they mean.

Yet knowledge can break us out of these cycles, and design can show us a designer that can set us free of all of the above.

Designer? I don't need Tommy Hilfiger, nor Calvin Klein, to set me free. Ruger and Remington do just fine for my purposes in this secular, materialist world we Americans live in. For my immortal soul, Jesus does very nicely.

It's been a real slice, DJJ, but I must admit that I find your thinking to be rather like the weather when it rains in South Texas: cloudy.

DR

 

[KingMerv00]

But your distance to the moon is wrong.

(You didn't just bring up Musica Universalis did you? Did a guy named Marty McFly pick you up in a horseless carriage? What is it like to be a construction worker at the Parthenon?)

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Wooley and others.. sexual name calling isn;t allowed although all kinds of other name calling has been directed at me by the rude and crude and frustrated.. But even though sexuality is definitely PART of the HARMONY I will be getting at in the expansion of Creation, via fulfilling the first commandment, be fruitful and MULTIPLY.... I would rather not violate board rules HERE, even though long timers seemingly go by no rules at all.

I prefr order rather than chaos,, and principles and respect rather than the lack thereof.

Wooley, you apparrently being different than the majority so good on you.

But here's the forum rules as I read them before posting...

1. You will not post profanity.

1. You will not use profanity in our forums,
   and will neither post with language or content that is obscene, sexually
   oriented, or sexually suggestive nor link to sites that contain such content.
3. And so although I don't have any graphic sexual images, maybe 1/12th of my site does involve the mysteries of sex created by the Lord and how it fits into solving the other mysteries.

But you guys, and I do mean guys as unfortunately it seems that maybe your over all athiestic negativity has sacred away female members do seem rather aggressive and frustrated. Do read froid as sexual pent up emotions do come out as violent which is why many goverments keep their people sexually frustrated to channel these hormones to making war not love.

Anyway, maybe the co-ordinators can make a ruling on this.... but I obviously wouldn;t connect up sexually until you guys get at least past Page ONE... its for the mature not the immature and foolish

We shall see....

But then again I am certainly limited if I can not go into the DESIGN of the human body and how we are Golden section designed to fit into ther whole Creation, Sun, Moon and Earth.. Ok I shall start a Golden Section Thread , but will avoid talking about sexuality and liberation for the frusdtrated until the co-ordinators say it is acceptable.

 

[Darth Rotor]

0.00001585 light years from the Earth to our sun. If you multiply that by 100,000,000, which is a really big number, that has special meaning to me because I'd like to win that much money in the lottery, you get 1585, which is EXACTLY 400 years before I graduated from college! To the nearest hundred, 400=432, so I must be god! Even more amazing, when I graduated from college, I weighed 183 pounds. You know what that means don't you? On Jupiter I would have weighed 432 pounds. And who is Jupiter? Only the supreme god of the Romans! The US government is in on it too! When they "randomly" assigned my social security number, they made the last 3 digits 607. Divide that by 100 just for the hell of it, me being the supreme god and all, and you get 6.07. Whoohoo! Of course you knew that if you raise Euler's number to the 6.07 power, you get 432, and with the fact that is is the base used to calculate the NATURAL logarithm, it is inescapable that this was not a random assignment of numbers, and that I am naturally the supreme god.

I, for one, cheerfully welcome our new Freethinking overlord.

Do you prefer animal sacrifice, virgins, prayers, or Hawaiian nose humming?

DR

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Whoops, my cut and paste didn;t seem to work...Heres that rule NUMBER on the forum rules....

from http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45132

1. 
   
   [*]You will not post profanity. You will not use profanity in our forums,
   and will neither post with language or content that is obscene, sexually
   oriented, or sexually suggestive nor link to sites that contain such content.

if we talk about the mysteries of sex, surely it can be deemed sexually oriented or sexually suggective. The world and churches have made sex evil and dirty when it is was created by the Lord not the devil nor by evolution and luck and chance. We fit together too beautifully.

And if my member or membership gets axed for this simple statement of truth, so be it.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

I, for one, cheerfully welcome our new Freethinking overlord.

Do you prefer animal sacrifice, virgins, prayers, or Hawaiian nose humming?

DR

I prefer mature women who have had real experience and are real individuals with real heart and soul irregardless of their beautiful other assests.

But then talking about such might be a violation of the humour rules HERE and so I again I fear for my member.

Or for the legalistis who go to the extreme or my extremities and want to take literally the words. if thy member offend thee cut it off.

Whewee, I gotta fly as I still need mine...

 

[JonnyFive]

Johnny, sex can't be talked about HERE because of the rules, so please respect their wishes. if they will allow a discussion so be it as you truly are frustrated and in need of liberation, and yet that topic can NOT be discussed.

Stick to the topic at hand without wandering all over your half acre due to your lack of concentration.

Keep your snide rude remarks strictly about 432 and sacred geometry in this thread. Thanks hope you comply to the rules HERE.

Unfortunately for you, you don't have the authority to order me to discuss anything in particular. I think you'll find that this kind of instruction generally annoys members of this forum. They're crazy like that.

Actually, sex is not a forbidden topic by any means, as at least one other poster pointed out. I'm not sure how making a dumb joke at your expense is considered "talking about sex" but hey, whatever gets you going.

I don't need to make "snide remarks" about sacred geometry or the number 432. Those things only exist in your mind when you do silly things like arbitrarily round numbers for no reason or use the wrong figure for the distance to the moon.

But you guys, and I do mean guys as unfortunately it seems that maybe your over all athiestic negativity has sacred away female members do seem rather aggressive and frustrated.

Evidence suggests you are not correct.

Do read froid as sexual pent up emotions do come out as violent which is why many goverments keep their people sexually frustrated to channel these hormones to making war not love.

It's "Freud", not "froid". Provide evidence of this statement if you wish to make any points using it.

Anyway, maybe the co-ordinators can make a ruling on this.... but I obviously wouldn;t connect up sexually until you guys get at least past Page ONE... its for the mature not the immature and foolish

You mean the moderators? Who are the "co-ordinators"?

But then again I am certainly limited if I can not go into the DESIGN of the human body and how we are Golden section designed to fit into ther whole Creation, Sun, Moon and Earth.. Ok I shall start a Golden Section Thread , but will avoid talking about sexuality and liberation for the frusdtrated until the co-ordinators say it is acceptable.

You can talk about sex all you want. You can't post graphic images, you can't use profanity (you can't swear, and there's an auto-censor function to help prevent accidental usage), and you probably can't get into explicit, graphic details. Other than that, it's cool.

This board, aside from those few limitations, does not censor ideas or expression. We've had discussions about a variety of controversial topics.

I see your understanding of the board's rules is just as excellent as your understanding of mathematics.

 

[KingMerv00]

But your distance to the moon is wrong.

 

[wollery]

Still not actually addressing my points I see.

 

[Beleth]

But of the vast majority of about 80 athiests from Here that accessed Page ONE only six went on to PAGE TWO, and yet the predominance of evidence was and will be a TEN PAGE rationale from all kinds of angles why 432 is the harmony of the Sun, Moon and Earth and our bodies and voices and spirits.

There is no link from page six to page seven. There's text that looks like it should be a link, but it's not a hyperlink.

 

[Darth Rotor]

Those darn clever Egyptians, citing a number in miles when the unit "miles" did not even exist at that time.

How many cubits in a mile? Averaging the Sumerian and the Egyptian cubits, we get 20.5 inches for a nominal cubit.
(5280 * 12)/(20.5) = 3090.731707317073170731707317 . . . cubits per mile.

That should clear things up immensely! I hope DJJ appreciates the work I have done for him.

Thought: Don't proportions render units irrelevant in some of these mystical numbers? (The Divine Proportion that Brown uses in Da Vinci Code comes to mind. 1/4/9 from 2001 Space Oddessy. )

DR

 

[JonnyFive]

But your distance to the moon is wrong.

As he seems to believe any kind of space travel is pretty much impossible, perhaps he also believes that the distance advanced by the science community is a lie and 216,000 miles is the "divinely inspired" correct number.

That explanation has the bonus advantage of being totally unfalsifiable! Pretty funny for someone that claimed to be a "science type".

David, do you believe pi should be rounded off to 3? That's a serious question. Doesn't three have some numerological significance?