432 shows harmony of Sun, Moon, Earth Design

Davidjayjordan said:
Heart sometimes superceeds mind bruto, because the Lord has hidden truths from the so called wise and shown them to mere babes and the believeing. So Yes, maybe He has shown me these things cause I am in the process of taking them back for the Lord and His people. I have been a missionary all my life, so maybe he has connected up a few of the dots for me despite the fact that it should have been connected up by greater minds. Heck, I spent almost all my life on the mission field after university.

And I have a terrible memory as my wife can attest to, but I do figure out things because of a small still voice. You can mock if you like, not a problem, but shear brain power hardly ever works it takes openness and even inspiration and divine insight to solve some mysteries.

the Lord said seek and we shall find and he means just that. And he also says His secret things shall be revealed.

Ha, there be that verse. Surely the Lord God will do nothing except he revealeth his secrets unto his servants the prophets. Everyhting will be revealed so we might as understand them now before hand so we can act accordingly.

SEE http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Prophecymysteries.html

But now I really got to go...
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My post was with regard to a link that you seem reluctant to follow, and to your careless editing and sloppy approach to facts. Your response, aside from being a total non sequitur, is also very arrogant, assuming that my comments do not deserve to be addressed specifically.

You seem to be suggesting that you are a prophet of the lord. If this is so, the Lord deserves better craftsmanship. When Moses went up the mountain, he did not come down with fifty pages of incoherent scribblings. The first job of a prophet is to be understood and believed, a task you don't seem to take very seriously.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
They know nothing and say there is nothing and so mock like little children.
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Coming from someone who believes it's useful to claim people that want you to show evidence for your insane ground-breaking ideas want to be "spoon fed", that's pretty funny.

They can't afford to break down and admit any truths or mathematics, publicly for then the pack would turn on them and rend them and they would lose their self esteem and their place in their beloved congregation.
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Yeah, you're full of crap. Nice try, though. Don't know many non-theists, do you?
 
Speaking of the moon, when NASA sent men to the moon, were they "in on the secret"? Did those scientists receive their education at the mysterious schools who know the "real truth"?
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Actually dumb struck , you are dumb because you are willing it upon yourself, as atheists have to deny any truths because they are fearful of anything they would have to stand up for, so they try to pull down all truths, as that is their skeptical pride and self esteem.

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All this ranting and no evidence whatsoever? Again, we pretty rely on proper evidence when it comes to science. Not just ranting and petty insults and numbers that are factually wrong.

Also, remember, in order to actually have an open mind, you have to be able to admit when you are wrong. When your lie about Einstein was exposed, did you admit you were wrong then? When your numbers about the distance to the moon were exposed as wrong, did you admit your mistakes then? I can bring dozens of other examples from this thread alone, but it probably won't do much good, because you're incapable of listening to anyone but your own voice. A closed mind if I ever saw one.

So, why do you keep lying even after your lies are exposed? Why do you keep insisting using wrong numbers? Why won't you use the real numbers, and follow them? Why lie, when people can so obviously see you're lying?
 
Crossbow said:
DJJ:

Just in case you are still interested, the second page of your web site still has the wrong figure for the number of seconds in a day.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/432KeyofStarofDavid2.html
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Many thanks Crossbow, I changed your seen typo of mine yesterday, and now will check again on page TWO. Much appreciated, and your help is appreciated.

But of the vast majority of about 80 athiests from Here that accessed Page ONE only six went on to PAGE TWO, and yet the predominance of evidence was and will be a TEN PAGE rationale from all kinds of angles why 432 is the harmony of the Sun, Moon and Earth and our bodies and voices and spirits.

Oh well, maybe that's why its only for the pure in heart and mind and maybe only for those that know they don;t know it all like the majority HERE.

Strange though they don;t stand up for anything except nothingness. No wonder they haven;t written anything themselves but resort to the works of others.

Anyway thanks Crossbow, for your sincere proof reading it has helped GBY !!
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Mercutio, almost everyone knows something and knows some truths, even yourself as you might humbly admit or confess. For we are ALL suppose to work together for good and for knowledge and in teaching each others and newcomers like our kids.
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So maybe I.. had some truths, I don't know and maybe if I have time I will look into his hyperlinks.
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I answer you only because you may have had a sincere question Mercutio.

Thanks, but do realise you have to study to learn and it may take a little time to understand the geometry of the ancients and why they were able to do the amazing feats they achieved, while the doomsayers and negaters and foolish were left in their tracks with nothingness but their vacuums.
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Please do take the time to look into his hyperlinks, before you jump to the conclusion that my question was sincere. In fact, it would behoove you to read quite a lot of what Iacchus wrote here, and how it was reacted to (by me, for example). His numerology, like yours, was hogwash. It began with flawed assumptions, shoehorned into faulty equations, subjected to torturous logic, resulting in conclusions that were known well before the initial assumptions were even made. "This is what I know to be true, now what numbers can I massage to get there from here?"

My linking you to his threads was the equivalent of the case study "the three Christs of Ypsilanti", in which three mental patients, each under the delusion that he was Christ, were placed together. I wanted to see how you reacted to another numerologist who claimed to see The Truth in Sacred Geometry. Would you denounce him as heretic? Would you embrace him as fellow? Would the forum implode under a critical mass of ignorance? It was an emperical question.
 
If any athiests are AFRAID to respond with sincere questions on this forum, just write me personnally and I can respectfully answer your queries.... Hoping to hear from you

davidjayjordan@yahoo.com

I realise that posting in such an envirorment as this would make you also a target of such wrath of something when the overall belief is nothing.
 
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Why is your sacred, "correct" number for the distance to the moon inconsistent with objective reality?
 
Davidjayjordan said:
But of the vast majority of about 80 athiests from Here that accessed Page ONE only six went on to PAGE TWO, and yet the predominance of evidence was and will be a TEN PAGE rationale from all kinds of angles why 432 is the harmony of the Sun, Moon and Earth and our bodies and voices and spirits.
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One doesn't need to eat the whole apple to know that it is spoiled.

Your thoughts are much less original than you imagine. We have seen numerologists before. We have seen the-ancients-had-superior-knowledge believers before. We have seen Biblical literalists before.

Light does not travel exactly one foot in a nanosecond. Your calculations are inaccurate. Others have suggested that your calculations are purposefully inaccurate. They may be right.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Actually dumb struck , you are dumb because you are willing it upon yourself, as atheists have to deny any truths because they are fearful of anything they would have to stand up for, so they try to pull down all truths, as that is their skeptical pride and self esteem.

They know nothing and say there is nothing and so mock like little children. That's not the way to learn. They are afraid of the real world for in the real world, they truly have nothing in common, as nothing is hardly a basis for a community. They seem only to congregate intheir churches on-kline as their mockery and snide remarks brings them together.

They can't afford to break down and admit any truths or mathematics, publicly for then the pack would turn on them and rend them and they would lose their self esteem and their place in their beloved congregation.

As the Good Book says, they are willingly ignorant. But dumbstruck, while there is time you might try to break out of your intelectual dishonesty and get real and quite blaming others for why you got DUMB struck
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The man has a big mental problem, you are only feeding him, he can’t learn and or does he wish to learn. He and other like him are one of the reasons that the million dollar challenge was changed, by testing them you only make him feel as if they are on to something.

Paul

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Davidjayjordan said:
If any athiests are AFRAID to respond with sincere questions on this forum, just write me personnally and I can respectfully answer your queries.... Hoping to hear from you

I realise that posting in such a rude foolish envirorment would make you also a target of such wrath of something when the overall belief is nothing.
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Here you make another of your blind assumptional errors. While there are quite likley more atheist/non-theists here than in a given population, this is not an Atheist forum. I myself am a practicing Prebyterian/Congragationalist. This is not a foolish environment, it is one where generally intelligent FACT based discussion is done, very often with a sense of humor. I hate to generalize, but reformed Alcohlolics, drug users, and "born again" christians tend to have lost their sense of humor in the process. Not all, but many that have come across my path.

back to your poor mathmatics and back peddling, which is already in progess.:D

basilio
 
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One thing I've always wondered:

If the ancients had such amazingly insightful knowledge into the ways of God and the world, how come their lives sucked so much? No running water, no medical attention, slow transportation, exposure to the elements, poor transfer of information. They had to work pretty damn hard just to survive. For example, they never would have had the time to, say, write rambling, incoherent web pages lying about the distance from the earth to the moon.

Yeah, I'd sure have loved to live in a time when I lived to the ripe old age of 30 and considered some crappy temple to the pinnacle of modern architecture.

Every been to a modern city? Yeah.

Why cite the Egyptians as some kind of example of God-inspired people? They certainly weren't Christian. Heck, they had a whole slew of pagan gods.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
If any athiests are AFRAID to respond with sincere questions on this forum, just write me personnally and I can respectfully answer your queries.... Hoping to hear from you

I realise that posting in such a rude foolish envirorment would make you also a target of such wrath of something when the overall belief is nothing.
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I have responded with sincerity. And you have continually failed to answer, or even acknowledge, my response, despite saying that you would. So to help you I'm reposting the entire post. It addresses serious errors given on your website.

wollery said:
If you didn't know it, the Earth is the center of the Universe. It is written in the colors of the stars. The stars and their galaxies give off a red light shift away from their natural color because they are all moving away from the Earth. So no matter where a telescope looks in the uniform sky, the galaxies are all moving away from us. How could this be? Well, it's simply because the Lord created the Earth and our Sun and all the stars (other suns) using the Earth as the Center of Creation. From this central hub, the galaxies are moving away, causing a red light shift. There is no other explanation.
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No. As someone who measures the radial velocities of stars I can assure you that they are not all moving away from us. Not even all galaxies are moving away from us. The Andromeda galaxy (M31) is on a collision course with the Milky Way. As for the Earth being the centre of the Universe, how is that possible when the Earth orbits the Sun, and the whole Solar system orbits the Galactic centre?
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JonnyFive said:
Why cite the Egyptians as some kind of example of God-inspired people? They certainly weren't Christian. Heck, they had a whole slew of pagan gods.
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And the neat thing about a lot of gods is, if the one you're worshiping doesn’t work out and plays the “works in mysterious ways” game, you just worship another one.

Paul

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Davidjayjordan said:
As mentioned I proved that Jesus works to myself and my family in actual experimentation
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I have a couple of concerns.

i) Djj apparently has no idea how to form an "actual experiment," nor what it would look like.

ii) And much more imporantly:

Djj is misleading family members. Djj we can forgive, because everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but we should perhaps express some concern for the family, who shouldn't have to be party to this.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Actually dumb struck , you are dumb because you are willing it upon yourself, as atheists have to deny any truths because they are fearful of anything they would have to stand up for, so they try to pull down all truths, as that is their skeptical pride and self esteem.

They know nothing and say there is nothing and so mock like little children. That's not the way to learn ... They can't afford to break down and admit any truths or mathematics, publicly for then the pack would turn on them and rend them and they would lose their self esteem and their place in their beloved congregation.
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Um ... I gave you links to evidence that proves that the moon does not actually appear to be the same size as the sun and that the moon is moving away from the earth so it is appearing to get smaller and smaller compared to the sun.

Are you honestly telling me that this is nothing more than an erronious belief caused by atheism? Are you saying that if I were not an atheist, the laser measuring devices that tell us the distance to the moon would read differently? Are you stating that the knowledge of the size and distance of the sun is a lie that atheists take comfort in because otherwise it would hurt their self-esteem?

What possible reason would anyone have to deny that the sun and moon appear to be the same size if they actually were?

The person who is willfully blind is you. You refuse to believe demonstrable, repeatable scientific evidence and prefer generalities and rounding off because it fits what you already believe.

Otherwise, please tell me exactly where I can go to learn that the moon and the sun really are apparantly the same size. Which school - religious or otherwise - is teaching that particular doctrine?
 
Jimbo07 said:
Djj we can forgive, because everyone is entitled to their own opinion,...
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I don't see it that way, DJJ doesn't have an opinion, his thinks he has the so-called TRUTH, poor man.

Paul

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