432 shows harmony of Sun, Moon, Earth Design

[Davidjayjordan]

I would really like to see an explanation for why you decided to pick some arbitrary units like miles and seconds for your amazing numerological fun-fest here.

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Johnny, you might have to put down your coffee a spell and do some further reading, before assuming that measurements are arbitrary. That might be what you want to believe, as you may want to believe your coffee gives you an edge on intelligence, but only sincere searching and an OPEN MIND gives you those connections.

Try http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/AcreandSacredTime.html

As miles are connected to the sacred furlong of the Lord, and was used by His angels and are part of the ratio system of the heavenly bodies we are talking about...

And shows we are designed to work and plow a certain amount in a day while there is time. Hope you are working on plowing the furrows of your mind as it was a commandment.


Jer 4:3 For thus saith the LORD to the men of Judah and Jerusalem, Break up your fallow ground, and sow not among thorns.


Hsa 10:12 Sow to yourselves in righteousness, reap in mercy; break up your fallow ground: for [it is] time to seek the LORD, till he come and rain righteousness upon you.

 

[Orangutan]

Their molecular hexagonal centers are displaced by force causing an electrical spark to jump.... called the piezoelectric effect..

SEE http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/SexyStarofdavid.html

This we shall be getting into later, as this connects up the greater TEMPLE, of our bodies with the other heavenly bodies, of the Sun, Moon and Earth. But if you can't handle sexuality and its basic truths, I might suggest you not read that hyperlink nor further with its hyperlinks.

But multiplication is the name of the game and the first commandment...

Ah I see, are you are talking about piezoelectrical effects of crystals like sugar? This is a very cool phenomonon:

Watch somebody munch on boiled sweets in the dark, and you might just see their mouth glow. That's because piezoelectric materials such as sugar can emit light when they are broken.

from http://physicsweb.org/articles/news/10/11/7/1

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Oh shut up, you indoctrinated goyum science type!

That's right, I went there.

See Johnny... you learned something already, as goyum means dumb sheep lead to the slaughter for lack of knowledge, so I have tried to help you and did at least teach you this. Pity, you didn;t have the time to stop drinking your coffee long enough to study.

I shan't be responding to you anymore.. Pity...

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Ah I see, are you are talking about piezoelectrical effects of crystals like sugar? This is a very cool phenomonon:


from http://physicsweb.org/articles/news/10/11/7/1

Actually I was thinking more along the lines of computer cystals that are hexagonal for the useage of their Lord given properties.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/PyramidalCrystalGeometry.html

it also explains in part how crystals are phi designed ... as well as ourselves....

But the light or electricity is because the physical causes the spiritual or the elctrical or the light you were talking about orang

But it is reversiable, in other words an elctrical impulse can cause a physical response. Perfcet for the ability to open and close gates in computers.

The Phi property of crystals allowing them to keep memory which is all important for computers. And eventually we can get into how light speed will be the vechicle of the new computers via light speed.

Ha, but we shall go beyond light speed.

 

[Foster Zygote]

No, actually, that's not true. The rotation of the earth is slowing down. That's a very slow process, to be sure, but it's happening nonetheless. And we know why and how it's happening, too (basically, tidal drag from the moon is transfering angular momentum from earth to the moon). So the length of the day is NOT actually constant, and never has been.

I'd like to add for Djj's edification that the same tidal forces have reduced the moon's period of rotation to equal its orbital period. And even the moon's distance from Earth is increasing as a result of these physical forces. Djj's value of 216,000 miles to the moon at perigee might have been valid around 227.6 million years ago.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Since David Jay Jordan appreciated Crossbow's correction I thought I'd bring a few more errors to his attention.


How do we jump from 93,465,000 to 93,416? If you divide 93,465,000 by 216 you get 432,708.3.... If we remove the last 3 zeros for arbitrary reasons we get 432.708333.... Closer to 433 really. Even if we allow the sleight of mind in changing 93,465,000 to 93,416 when we divide the new value by 216 we get 432.481481....

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432,481 is close enough to 432.... and do remember the mileage changes with the revolution around the Sun of the Earth as no course set by the Lord is perfectly circular, there is a little variance.



Wait also til we get to the exact amount of time it takes for sun light at light speed to get HERE. 500 seconds, not by chance but by design.. That's the Tabernacle of the SUN/Son.. As Son and Sun are paraellels.

And Foster to make a mental note as light speed can be violated, slowed down and surpassed, which makes light years null and void... and many of the assumptions and supposed constants of supposed scientists now obsolete. More later, but let's continue...

Remember Rome wasn;t built in a day, and my proof is in the preponderance of 432 not just one measurement or diamter, distance or time frame. And so we have ten pages to go and all the hyperlinks to connect up... Or as the prophet Isaiah said, precept upon precept, line upon line...

 

[JonnyFive]

Try http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/AcreandSacredTime.html

As miles are connected to the sacred furlong of the Lord, and was used by His angels and are part of the ratio system of the heavenly bodies we are talking about...

And shows we are designed to work and plow a certain amount in a day while there is time. Hope you are working on plowing the furrows of your mind as it was a commandment.


Jer 4:3 For thus saith the LORD to the men of Judah and Jerusalem, Break up your fallow ground, and sow not among thorns.


Hsa 10:12 Sow to yourselves in righteousness, reap in mercy; break up your fallow ground: for [it is] time to seek the LORD, till he come and rain righteousness upon you.

Do you have any kind of evidence for this?

If you're going to cite the Bible as the divine word of God, do you have additional evidence that the Bible is in fact written by God, or even that your concept of God exists at all? Any chance you'll do this without resorting to circular reasoning?

 

[Foster Zygote]

This will get into the earth;s resonant frequency etc. etc... so don;t get hung up in secular materialistic math before you see the overall forest and tree pattern and DESIGN.

The only alternative to secularist math I see is the kind that doesn't add up.

And Foster do realise that I am not the one making up these numbers but they are long understood standards of scared geometry. I may be one of the few that go a step further and show the design of the designer, as in most cases, the Mystery Schools kept this secret.

Whoever came up with these numbers they are wrong. Even at its closest approach the moon is significantly further than your 216,000 mile claim. As your claims seem to rest of these values how can you maintain that these claims are accurate? You want us to acknowledge you as wise and learned but you don't even know how far away the moon is.

 

[JonnyFive]

I shan't be responding to you anymore.. Pity...

Ah yes, ignoring people... an excellent debating tactic. I believe that would be the "Cartman Method".

That'll do, troll, that'll do.

432,481 is close enough to 432.... and do remember the mileage changes with the revolution around the Sun of the Earth as no course set by the Lord is perfectly circular, there is a little variance.

"Close enough"?! Oh, you really aren't a "science type", are you?

Why not? God can do anything, so why not make a perfectly circular orbit? I would think that would be far more harmonious than "close enough".

 

[Foster Zygote]

432,481 is close enough to 432.... and do remember the mileage changes with the revolution around the Sun of the Earth as no course set by the Lord is perfectly circular, there is a little variance.

So how did you get from 93,465,000 to 93,416? It seems like you just changed the value to make it more convenient for your calculations.

 

[Orangutan]

Actually I was thinking more along the lines of computer cystals that are hexagonal for the useage of their Lord given properties.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/PyramidalCrystalGeometry.html

it also explains in part how crystals are phi designed ... as well as ourselves....

But the light or electricity is because the physical causes the spiritual or the elctrical or the light you were talking about orang

But it is reversiable, in other words an elctrical impulse can cause a physical response. Perfcet for the ability to open and close gates in computers.

The Phi property of crystals allowing them to keep memory which is all important for computers. And eventually we can get into how light speed will be the vechicle of the new computers via light speed.

Ha, but we shall go beyond light speed.

By computer crystals do you mean the quartz crystals that are used to make oscillators for timing inside electronic circuits? I ask because they aren't really triangles. They are more like a spring made up out of three four-sided pyramids.

http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PETROLGY/QuartzStruc.HTM

You only get a piezoelectric effect from asymmetric crystals like this.

From url in last post:

In materials with structures that lack symmetry such as piezoelectric crystals, charge of opposite sign separates when the material is stressed. If the stress is great enough, the material fractures, and the charge then recombines in the gas between the gap producing a small spark of light.

So it's not anything to do with triangles moving apart. in fact if you get a spark within the material it's because the crystal is irreparably fractured there.

 

[Jimbo07]

it also explains in part how crystals are phi designed ... as well as ourselves....

From your URL:

For it is their hexagonal perfect shape that the Lord has designed to create the piezoelectric effect, that briudges the gap between the spiritual and the physical. And it is this gap, the space in between the two centers of the two triangles of a hexagonal crystal that give it the power to retain input, for realease later on as output. And from here we get our computers crystalline ability for memory.

If it wasn't before, it is now abundantly clear that you (one or more of):
- have no idea what you're talking about.
- are playing a joke on us.
- genuinely believe what you're saying.

If it's this last point, I'm afraid that you won't find many converts/adherents here.

 

[Hawk one]

So let's see... WHen scientists say something the fundie Davidjay agrees with, he eagerly takes is as proof.

But when the very same scientists say something he doesn't agree with, they're a bunch of liars for some strange conspiracy reason that doesn't add up.

How about you make up your mind, David? See, real science isn't about cherry-picking what you agree with and tossing out the rest for no good reason. It's about studying all of it properly, before you can understand enough. Since you have told several lies about for example biology already, it's just logical to assume that you have not studied it yourself. Oh, and those are old lies, refuted so often it isn't even funny anymore. Didn't I mention the thing your god seems to have against lying? Wasn't that supposed to even be inscribed on stone tablets? If you really believe in those commandements, then why do you lie to us?

And since you say it's so important to study math, yet brings up wrong numbers over and over and over, then only an ignorant lamb ready to be slaughtered would have taken your word for it when you claim those numbers mean something, right? Anyone who's actually studying those numbers must be willing to point out any errors, and if there are errors, you better accept those, because otherwise you're doing the exact thing you're accusing this "scientific dogma" of doing (by the way, you haven't actually shown any evidence for this claim either.)

 

[Davidjayjordan]

I realise trying to get non connected science types and non connected atheists connected to seeing connections, and cause and effect would be difficult, as they would choke on numbers even before understanding the Pyghagorus comma, and more. So allow me to give you a broader scope so you can argue with these basically heathen type mathematicians who yet still know some of these truths I am trying to tell ONLY to the sincere ones among you.

Go Here and read all the links for background if you don't want my easier to understand method.

http://www.intent.com/bruce/links.html

Or study Pythoagorus, Egyptian Mystery schools, geometry, or the Physics of connected math, super string theory , Theory of Everything etc.. for all things and all laws and all worlds are connected even if you choose to deny it. Your choice, not my problem.

I mean you guys aren't taking the literal time to read and study what I give, so how on Earth can you post before studying.

And if you continue to strain at gnats, no wonder you can't swallow something worth digging your teeth into for real substance.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Do you have any kind of evidence for this?

If you're going to cite the Bible as the divine word of God, do you have additional evidence that the Bible is in fact written by God, or even that your concept of God exists at all? Any chance you'll do this without resorting to circular reasoning?

I will make an exception to my rule Johnny as you asked an insincere question and yet a sincere answer might help others.

I was a full time missionary after university living ONLY by FAITH not attached to any church...as they are usually totally devoid and dangerous, got a wife and five kids and stilll went on and continue now as a full time independant missionary online.

You can continue to mock me and us all you want, but that is your answer. true science types and test and prove words, they don't rely on mere theories. This we have proved by experience...tried and rpoven the WORD of God.

I am a science missionary type who loves to prove the Lord is real through His Creation...

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan//Abouttheauthor.html

TYou can mess with me, but never mess with my wife or children, and eventually you will learn not to mess with our Creator of ALL.

Can you handle it, or will you mock further.....

Got to fly..catch you later sincere posters,...insincere ones you may or may not get a response...

 

[Freethinker]

432,481 is close enough to 432.... and do remember the mileage changes with the revolution around the Sun of the Earth as no course set by the Lord is perfectly circular, there is a little variance.



Wait also til we get to the exact amount of time it takes for sun light at light speed to get HERE. 500 seconds, not by chance but by design.. That's the Tabernacle of the SUN/Son.. As Son and Sun are paraellels.

0.00001585 light years from the Earth to our sun. If you multiply that by 100,000,000, which is a really big number, that has special meaning to me because I'd like to win that much money in the lottery, you get 1585, which is EXACTLY 400 years before I graduated from college! To the nearest hundred, 400=432, so I must be god! Even more amazing, when I graduated from college, I weighed 183 pounds. You know what that means don't you? On Jupiter I would have weighed 432 pounds. And who is Jupiter? Only the supreme god of the Romans! The US government is in on it too! When they "randomly" assigned my social security number, they made the last 3 digits 607. Divide that by 100 just for the hell of it, me being the supreme god and all, and you get 6.07. Whoohoo! Of course you knew that if you raise Euler's number to the 6.07 power, you get 432, and with the fact that is is the base used to calculate the NATURAL logarithm, it is inescapable that this was not a random assignment of numbers, and that I am naturally the supreme god.

 

[SimonD]

I realise trying to get non connected science types and non connected atheists connected to seeing connections, and cause and effect would be difficult, as they would choke on numbers even before understanding the Pyghagorus comma, and more. So allow me to give you a broader scope so you can argue with these basically heathen type mathematicians who yet still know some of these truths I am trying to tell ONLY to the sincere ones among you.

Go Here and read all the links for background if you don't want my easier to understand method.

http://www.intent.com/bruce/links.html

Or study Pythoagorus, Egyptian Mystery schools, geometry, or the Physics of connected math, super string theory , Theory of Everything etc.. for all things and all laws and all worlds are connected even if you choose to deny it. Your choice, not my problem.

I mean you guys aren't taking the literal time to read and study what I give, so how on Earth can you post before studying.

And if you continue to strain at gnats, no wonder you can't swallow something worth digging your teeth into for real substance.

But your numbers are wrong and so is your math. Math's has nothing to do with faith. 2+2 will always equal 4.

You just fit the numbers to your theory. It should be the other way round.

ETA A person with an open mind will see their mistakes and take steps to change the way they think

 

[Hawk one]

You can continue to mock me and us all you want, but that is your answer. true science types and test and prove words, they don't rely on mere theories. This we have proved by experience...tried and rpoven the WORD of God.

Except that a real scientist would have checked and double-checked his numbers to make sure that the numbers were correct. Which you demonstrate you haven't done. You have instead only chosen to use those numbers that suits your belief, which is the completely wrong way to go about it. And if they don't suit you, you change them. That is lying. Why do you lie, you who claim to have superior morals?

You also show ignorance of even the most basic concept in science: The scientific meaning of the word "theory". I suggest you at least start learning what the phrase scientific theory actually means before you start making assumptions about it.

Hint: A scientific theory becomes so only after a lot of hypothesises have been vigourously and repeatedly tested over and over and over and over. And then a couple more times. It's that hard for a scientific theory to come forth, so when it does, it usually has loads of evidence behind it.

And science has not proven the existence of any god ever made up. Not your god, not the Greek gods, or the hindu gods, or any others.

So once again, at least stop with the more obvious lies you're telling, such as when you're giving completely wrong numbers. That is not the scientific method, and it's also against your own religions morals.... Though I guess you're pretty much lying when you claim you have any of those too.

 

[JonnyFive]

I will make an exception to my rule Johnny as you asked an insincere question and yet a sincere answer might help others.

No, I asked a sincere question: can you provide evidence without resorting to the following circular path I have seen many times:

A-What I say is true.
Q-Why?
A-Because it's based in the Bible.
Q-Why should I believe the Bible?
A-Because it's the word of God.
Q-How do we know?
A-Because creation shows God is everywhere.
Q-How do you know that?
A-Because it says so in the Bible...

Repeat ad infinitum. Your smugness is hardly sincere. I asked you what evidence you had for your beliefs, especially when your magic numbers don't work out to even the exact values, yet you claim they're "close enough".

I don't think you're here to have a discussion, I think you're here to troll. Prove me wrong.

You can continue to mock me and us all you want, but that is your answer. true science types and test and prove words, they don't rely on mere theories. This we have proved by experience...tried and rpoven the WORD of God.

How have you proven the word of God? With your misunderstanding of math, incorrect numbers and Bible-based "divine units of measure"? How have you proven that the Bible is the word of God?

I am a science missionary type who loves to prove the Lord is real through His Creation...

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan//Abouttheauthor.html

TYou can mess with me, but never mess with my wife or children, and eventually you will learn not to mess with our Creator of ALL.

Why would I mess with your wife and/or children? That doesn't even make sense. I didn't even know you had a wife or children until you mentioned it.

I'm not trying to mess with "out Creator of ALL", I see no evidence he exists.

Can you handle it, or will you mock further.....

I don't know, are you actually going to try and provide real evidence, or are you going to go on about how I'm not sincere and I'm going to mess with God?

How do you figure that numbers, which are a human abstraction designed to better understand certain aspects of the real world, have any magical properties?

 

[Orangutan]

Snip..
But the light or electricity is because the physical causes the spiritual or the elctrical or the light you were talking about orang

But it is reversiable, in other words an elctrical impulse can cause a physical response. Perfcet for the ability to open and close gates in computers.

The Phi property of crystals allowing them to keep memory which is all important for computers. And eventually we can get into how light speed will be the vechicle of the new computers via light speed.

Ha, but we shall go beyond light speed.

I suspect I may be one of those straining at gnats as I haven't got past the first paragraph on your web-page yet as I think you connection to the star of David and quartz is based on some faulty knowledge about what 's on the inside of a piezoelectric crystal, Am I very much off in how you are trying to connect the dots between the two?

I figure,I might as well continue straining, at least we might catch some gnats eh?

Anyway computer "gates" are not little piezoelectric operated phisical gates. They are solid state devices made from transistors:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_junction_transistor#Structure

Computer memory is made from structures of the same kind of stuff. I don't think you can say that they have an ability to keep memory any more than a piece of paper can have a memory if I write on it. Am I wrong in seeing anthropomorphism towards computer memory in your sentence above?

Please feel free to drop the last two points I am more interested in the link between Piezoelectric crystals and the star of David.