432 shows harmony of Sun, Moon, Earth Design

[strathmeyer]

I am showing Design, and hence a Designer to possibly connect up your brain rather than having it disjointed and having your hemispheres severed and your synapsis misfiring because your knowledge in not integrated but isolated into various non communicating subjects.

How do you know that the designer measured things in miles and seconds?

You do realize when you have an idea in your head, it doesn't magically appear in everyone else's head, right? You have to actually use words to move that idea from your head into other people's heads.

 

[Foster Zygote]

This one is about the design of creation and the numbers and measurements and diamters and times, and speeds, and laws that show it.

Then why did you give the distance to the moon as 216,000 miles? This is 5331 miles closer than the moon's nearest approach to Earth and 22,712 miles short of the mean distance to the moon.

 

[RenaissanceBiker]

Is this a timecube thing?

 

[Ziggurat]

Onward..... no time to waste because time is also a sacred measure by DESIGN.

Your website says, "A day’s length of 24 hours or 86,400 seconds is not by chance but by Design"

Well, DUH! Of COURSE it was by design. But you've got it down backwards: it wasn't the day that was designed to be 86,400 seconds, but seconds which were designed to be 1/86,400 ths of a day. Seconds were DEFINED that way, by HUMAN design, because people wanted to be able to divide up a day into short units with nice round numbers, and the people who did it used sexagesimal counting systems. That's also the reason there are 360 degrees in a circle, BTW - it's easily divided by 60, and it comes fairly close to the 365.249... days in a year, which makes the distance astronomical features (ie, positions of stars) change close to (but NOT exactly) a degree per day. That's human design, and its imperfection shows.

 

[aggle-rithm]

Hawk,

Yes you believe in the impossible being possible given billions and trillions of years.

That would be "billions". In trillions of years, everything that was going to happen pretty much will have happened.

And, it doesn't necessarily have to be a long period of time. Given a large enough universe, it takes only a few seconds for wildly improbable things to occur.

that is evoltuionary dogma, your HOPE and your FAITH, even though it is absolutely insane.

Hope and faith have nothing to do with science. Science goes wherever the evidence takes it.

yes, you have no proofs and it violates all true math and biology reality, and yet evolutionists like you love their religion.

Correct, except for the words "proof", "violates", "math", "biology", "reality", "evolutionists", "religion", "love", and "and".

But your luck and chance theology and false science is for a different thread. This one is about the design of creation and the numbers and measurements and diamters and times, and speeds, and laws that show it.

What....?

 

[Davidjayjordan]

I found 238,712 miles, but what's 106 miles between friends. Even at perigee the distance to the moon is given as 221,331 miles. So David Jay Jordan is 5331 miles from being even partially right.

David Jay Jordan, would you care to address this discrepancy?

Yes, continue to to Page TWO and then THREE and then the preponderance of evidence shall explain itself.

For similiarly you might get hung up on the Earth's Diameter as well, as our planet, is not exactly 7920 miles circular but its mean is.

This will get into the earth;s resonant frequency etc. etc... so don;t get hung up in secular materialistic math before you see the overall forest and tree pattern and DESIGN.

For if you judge prematurely you shall not find.... yet I think I do have to put more of the basics down for posters and sincere reponders.... as understanding the GOLDEN SECTION will be paramount..

And Foster do realise that I am not the one making up these numbers but they are long understood standards of scared geometry. I may be one of the few that go a step further and show the design of the designer, as in most cases, the Mystery Schools kept this secret.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/MysterySchools.html

So you can balk at sacred geometry Foster if you choose, but do realise these are not my numbers, but the very basics of Sacred GEOMETRY ..

SEE Michael Schneider's poor spirituality but excellent math and bioogy and scared geometry in How to Build your own Universe Book. Excellent easy to understand author. But you can only read, if you are open minded and have the courage to do so..

I repeat Foster these are not my made up numbers, but a basic of sacred geometry, I only corelated some of them to fit into reality and spirituality.

 

[Ziggurat]

I repeat Foster these are not my made up numbers, but a basic of sacred geometry, I only corelated some of them to fit into reality and spirituality.

Fine, you didn't make them up. But they're still wrong, so why are you using them? Since those numbers are not in fact correct, how can you tell the people who DID come up with them didn't just change the numbers in order to fit a patern that THEY created? How can you tell, if you aren't using the actual numbers, that you're analyzing God's work and not just Foster's?

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Your website says, "A day’s length of 24 hours or 86,400 seconds is not by chance but by Design"

Well, DUH! Of COURSE it was by design. But you've got it down backwards: it wasn't the day that was designed to be 86,400 seconds, but seconds which were designed to be 1/86,400 ths of a day. Seconds were DEFINED that way, by HUMAN design, because people wanted to be able to divide up a day into short units with nice round numbers, and the people who did it used sexagesimal counting systems. That's also the reason there are 360 degrees in a circle, BTW - it's easily divided by 60, and it comes fairly close to the 365.249... days in a year, which makes the distance astronomical features (ie, positions of stars) change close to (but NOT exactly) a degree per day. That's human design, and its imperfection shows.

Now we are getting somewhere with someone with a little understanding, thanks Zig.

Days are determined from Creation by the Earth's rotation around its new axis. Its always been the same length of time... a factor of 432, if you consider the hours of daylight at spring equinox, at Creation. For then the hours of day and night are equal.

And it involves spherical geometry as Zig has mentioned with a factor of 365.24/365 which we go over on page

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/432KeyofStarofDavid4.html
See graphics and explanations.... don;t believe yet, but consider with an open mind... as again Our years are determined by the earth's revolution speed set in the BEGINNING of Creation. Again look back at the alp-hanumerics that Vernon posted....and continue on... with the preponderance of evidence that will eventually be irrefutable IMO...

 

[Jimbo07]

I am a science type and not a literary one,

Scientists are expected to display an educated literacy when writing grant proposals and journal articles.

You wouldn't know science if it came up and bit you in the nose.

Okay. That's not fair. Let us be fair and openminded as Djj suggests.

Djj: Please provide evidence that you are a science type, and explain why you feel that that justifies spelling mistakes. I won't accept misspelling from myself, and like to annotate embarrassing typos with lots of smilies, such as . I am much more willing to accept poor language skills from those who do not speak English as their native tongue, because my proficiency in their language is probably even more abominable.

 

[Orangutan]

Hi Again,
Sorry I'm late! I just got a chance to start reading. I'm afraid I fell at the first hurdle.

Can you elaborate on this, (RE Star of David) "it originally showed the creative ability of the male and female triangles to create (piezo) electricity and life itself."

How do triangles produce electricity?

 

[Hawk one]

Hawk,

Yes you believe in the impossible being possible given billions and trillions of years. that is evoltuionary dogma, your HOPE and your FAITH, even though it is absolutely insane.

yes, you have no proofs and it violates all true math and biology reality, and yet evolutionists like you love their religion.

But your luck and chance theology and false science is for a different thread. This one is about the design of creation and the numbers and measurements and diamters and times, and speeds, and laws that show it.

Bye Hawk

Man, so many things wrong here.

First of all I don't believe in anything impossible. That's what you're doing. I "believe" that highly improbable but possible things may very well happen given enough chances. To know if anything is possible or not, I will need to see evidence for it. So far, -no- real evidence about someone designing us has been coming forth, and therefore, it's pretty safe to say that this is more or less impossible. So I don't believe in such a thing. Why should I?

There is, on the other hand, lots of evidence for how stars form, how planets form, how amino acids form, and how life, once it has started, evolves. Nothing impossible here. If it was impossible, it would have been discovered to be so, and tossed out of the scientific curriculum.

There are, to date, more than one hundre billion galaxies in this universe. A medium-sized one such as ours will count roughly 500 billion stars as we reckognise them. That's a total of, if we are conservative, 5 X 10 to the power of 16 stars. And a whole bunch of planets, which is pretty much impossible to count properly because, well, they aren't sending us much light. Those numbers there are astronomical, won't you agree? Properly fit for astronomical odds.

And didn't I ask you to at the very least stop putting up strawmen? To which I can add the following:

*equating non-religious with no morals

Which is just a lie and a poor insult, because we've heard this lie so many times before, and I do wonder why people are still stupid enough to repeat it again and again... Of course, most of those people belong to a religion that apparently has rules against lying... Which makes this just about the most hypocritical lie ever told.

Fact is, biologists - those who have studied biology - are pretty much all in agreement that all the evidence leads to evolution. If you ask a good chemist, he'll probably be able to talk to lengths about how it is possible for amino acids to eventually form something that is capable of self-replicating (depends a bit on if that's within his specific field of chemistry, though). An astro-physicist will give you lots of information about how planets can form. You know, since you're obviously thinking they are experts, given this comment in your OP:

So check out the math, and give specific confirmations corrections, not just opinions that you reject the premise of design because you haven;t got the time to study the math, physics, chemistry or biology.

Or are you saying that the vast majority of these fields you mentioned are liars? I mean, it's pretty much impossible to study biology properly and not learn about evolution. In the same way that you can't study chemistry without knowing the periodic table of elements, or physics without gravity. Evolution is an integrated part of science, and anyone saying otherwise is truly a liar. That's the long and the short of it.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Scientists are expected to display an educated literacy when writing grant proposals and journal articles.



Okay. That's not fair. Let us be fair and openminded as Djj suggests.

Djj: Please provide evidence that you are science type and why you feel that that justifies spelling mistakes. I won't accept misspelling from myself, and like to annotate embarrassing typos with lots of smilies, such as . I am much more willing to accept poor language skills from those who do not speak English as their native tongue, because my proficiency in their language is probably even more abominable.

Science types are forced to write what is expected of them in the indocrination they are forced to adopt when going through their cemetery seminaries called universities, espeically the evolutionists. Universities are secular education for goyums that need money to finance their one demensional studies and to feed them physically.

Therefore they demand all t's to be crossed and i's doted. I got my degree and fought these ***** and won, and so followed my heart and brain and became a missionary on the foreign fields without funding. And did well and continue to do so. So I am not under your rules and regulations and spelling dictums that so hinder you in your perfectionism, better that the principles be right than the spelling. I don't have time for checking spelling mistakes. if you are bound by spelling it shows you aren;t much of a researcher anyway, and I just won;t answer your spelling complaints. Your lose not mine.

 

[JonnyFive]

I would really like to see an explanation for why you decided to pick some arbitrary units like miles and seconds for your amazing numerological fun-fest here.

Come on, we're waiting on that.

Do you find it amazing that there are 60 seconds in a minute and 60 minutes in an hour? Also, there are 24 hours in a day and 7 days in a week.

24 divided by 7 is 3.4285714..., a rational number that, by your reasoning (distance to the moon, anyone?), is almost exactly the same as pi!

 

[Jimbo07]

Science types are forced to write what is expected of them in the indocrination they are forced to adopt when going through their cemetery seminaries called universities, espeically the evolutionists. Universities are secular education for goyums that need money to finance their one demensional studies and to feed them physically.

Therefore they demand all t's to be crossed and i's doted. I got my degree and fought these ***** and won, and so followed my heart and brain and became a missionary on the foreign fields without funding. And did well and continue to do so. So I am not under your rules and regulations and spelling dictums that so hinder you in your perfectionism, better that the principles be right than the spelling. I don't have time for checking spelling mistakes. if you are bound by spelling it shows you aren;t much of a researcher anyway, and I just won;t answer your spelling complaints. Your lose not mine.

So... you're not a science type then?

Before you blast off at me about it being, "better that the principles be right than the spelling," make sure you have something in your principles. If not, then with spelling you could at least have one thing right.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Hi Again,
Sorry I'm late! I just got a chance to start reading. I'm afraid I fell at the first hurdle.

Can you elaborate on this, (RE Star of David) "it originally showed the creative ability of the male and female triangles to create (piezo) electricity and life itself."

How do triangles produce electricity?

Their molecular hexagonal centers are displaced by force causing an electrical spark to jump.... called the piezoelectric effect..

SEE http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/SexyStarofdavid.html

This we shall be getting into later, as this connects up the greater TEMPLE, of our bodies with the other heavenly bodies, of the Sun, Moon and Earth. But if you can't handle sexuality and its basic truths, I might suggest you not read that hyperlink nor further with its hyperlinks.

But multiplication is the name of the game and the first commandment...

 

[JonnyFive]

Science types are forced to write what is expected of them in the indocrination they are forced to adopt when going through their cemetery seminaries called universities, espeically the evolutionists. Universities are secular education for goyums that need money to finance their one demensional studies and to feed them physically.

Translation: I have never, ever set foot in any kind of science or mathematics class, not even once.

What's "demensional"?

 

[Ziggurat]

Days are determined from Creation by the Earth's rotation around its new axis. Its always been the same length of time...

No, actually, that's not true. The rotation of the earth is slowing down. That's a very slow process, to be sure, but it's happening nonetheless. And we know why and how it's happening, too (basically, tidal drag from the moon is transfering angular momentum from earth to the moon). So the length of the day is NOT actually constant, and never has been.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Since David Jay Jordan appreciated Crossbow's correction I thought I'd bring a few more errors to his attention.

The Moon distance to us of 216,000 miles compared to the distance of the Sun’s Central Core distance to us… the center of the Solar System. 93,000,000 miles plus its radius of 465,000 miles or 93,465,000. Therefore 93416 / 216 = 432…..

How do we jump from 93,465,000 to 93,416? If you divide 93,465,000 by 216 you get 432,708.3.... If we remove the last 3 zeros for arbitrary reasons we get 432.708333.... Closer to 433 really. Even if we allow the sleight of mind in changing 93,465,000 to 93,416 when we divide the new value by 216 we get 432.481481....

If you didn't know it, the Earth is the center of the Universe. It is written in the colors of the stars. The stars and their galaxies give off a red light shift away from their natural color because they are all moving away from the Earth. So no matter where a telescope looks in the uniform sky, the galaxies are all moving away from us. How could this be? Well, it's simply because the Lord created the Earth and our Sun and all the stars (other suns) using the Earth as the Center of Creation. From this central hub, the galaxies are moving away, causing a red light shift. There is no other explanation.

But let's say you were standing on a planet in a galaxy very far from our own and you measured the Doppler shift in radiation. You would still appear to be in the center of the universe as all the other galaxies would be moving away from you. That's the nature of the expanding universe. As a simple analogy consider a big black balloon with little white dots all over its surface. If you inflate the balloon further all of the dots will get further away from each other as the surface of the balloon expands. No matter which dot you choose as a reference point it will appear as though all the other dots are moving away from it.

 

[JonnyFive]

No, actually, that's not true. The rotation of the earth is slowing down. That's a very slow process, to be sure, but it's happening nonetheless. And we know why and how it's happening, too (basically, tidal drag from the moon is transfering angular momentum from earth to the moon). So the length of the day is NOT actually constant, and never has been.

Oh shut up, you indoctrinated goyum science type!

That's right, I went there.

 

[prewitt81]

I am a science type and not a literary one

Science types are forced to write what is expected of them in the indocrination they are forced to adopt when going through their cemetery seminaries called universities, espeically the evolutionists. Universities are secular education for goyums that need money to finance their one demensional studies and to feed them physically.

Therefore they demand all t's to be crossed and i's doted. I got my degree and fought these ***** and won, and so followed my heart and brain and became a missionary on the foreign fields without funding. And did well and continue to do so. So I am not under your rules and regulations and spelling dictums that so hinder you in your perfectionism, better that the principles be right than the spelling. I don't have time for checking spelling mistakes. if you are bound by spelling it shows you aren;t much of a researcher anyway, and I just won;t answer your spelling complaints. Your lose not mine.

You can't even keep your own trolling straight. Starts with an "n", ends with an "ope."