The Bible is 100% true and to be read literally

Belz...
Oh, so I'm "evil" because I don't believe in God any more than I believe in Zeus, although Zeus is a hell of a lot cooler ?
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Hey, Zeus was a horndog. And he’s a god so he got away with it, well at least some times.
 
fowlsound said:
Dear all internet trolls:

Please, before posting, use a spell check in the word processor of your choice. Also, please take a few moments to look up the differences between "no" and "know" as well as "your" and "you're", and of course "their" "there" and "they're."

In short, please do not expect a serious evaluation of your ideas if you appear to have the writing capabilities of the average 3rd grader. This type of poor communication skill forces us to want to pinch your cheek and say "Isn't that cute! You think you're being original!" rather than pay any attention to your feeble attempts at discourse.

You see, to explain our situation further, there is this event in the history of the internet which sadly brings into question the intelligence anyone who types l1ke th1z. We call this Eternal September. You see in September 1993 America Online opened the gates of their corral to flood Usenet (and eventually the entirety of the internet) with drooling, half-witted simpletons that began to post retardedly inane ideas under the misguided notion that they were clever, or revolutionary, or that no one in the world had ever heard this idea before. Those early trolls may have been the first to preach the word of Jesus, Allah, Xenu, Amway, or whatever other topic was the flavor of the week, but that was 13 years ago. It was irritating then, it is just laughable now. You are not original, you are not revolutionary, and you are not clever in the slightest. Please refrain from pretending that you are so that the rest of us can continue our nice cup of coffee and conversation on this little corner of the internet we call "our forum."

If you would like to learn some basic english skills, then we invite you to stay and order yourself a Chai Latte. Otherwise, please excuse yourself or face the derision, chiding and condescention of 13 years of dealing with idiots such as yourself from people who are far more clever and original.

Thank you in advance.

-The small consortium of literate and reasoning internet posters.
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"condescension" - it means talking down to people.






Who could resist? :p
 
edge said:
My dog can say I love you he has a soul!
Now one of things I have to do is please him and take him for a walk, I do this for him because it pleases him and he says I love you, do you get the concept?
It's the same with God the father and the son!
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If the dog really says "I love you", you may be eligible for the million-dollar challenge, or at least some sort of scientific grant money.

If, however, he is merely expressing affection, then you are projecting your human qualities onto the dog.
 
edge said:
He is also the most protective dog I have ever seen.
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If he were human, what he is doing could be called "protective". What he actually is is "possessive". At least, that's usually the case when dogs behave this way.

He chose us as his, and left his master and came to the house and moved in.
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You STOLE the dog...?

Your analogy is really starting to unravel.
 
aggle-rithm said:
If, however, he is merely expressing affection, then you are projecting your human qualities onto the dog.
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Sorry, but this is only partly true, dogs do have emotions, they are social animals. Also I’m defending the dog, not edge.

Paul

:) :) :)
 
Paulhoff said:
Sorry, but this is only partly true, dogs do have emotions, they are social animals. Also I’m defending the dog, not edge.
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How well known is this? Emotions are pretty hard to measure. It seems likely, but I feel it possible it could just be us projecting our values on to animals. Unless there are studies done, of course.
 
Ossai
Hey, Zeus was a horndog. And he’s a god so he got away with it, well at least some times.
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my 25 year old son is a horndog, has been since he was about 14 and he gets away with it most of the time :boggled: does he qualify to be a god:degrin:

gypsey
 
Taffer said:
How well known is this? Emotions are pretty hard to measure. It seems likely, but I feel it possible it could just be us projecting our values on to animals. Unless there are studies done, of course.
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Just a quick post.

You know humans have done this thru the years with other humans of differant so-called races or just differant tribes "How do we know if their emotions are as human as ours, has any study been done to prove it".

Get a dog, and watch and learn.

Paul

:) :) :)
 
edge said:
He is also the most protective dog I have ever seen.

He chose us as his, and left his master and came to the house and moved in.
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I am curious as to why you say these things. What "protective" behaviors does this dog exhibit? And what makes you think you were "chosen" by this dog? And why are you proud of that?
 
Perhaps I missed it but I don't think any of the biblical literalists have answered my question. I will restate in more detail here:

2 Chronicles 4:2 said:
Also he made a molten sea of ten cubits from brim to brim, round in compass, and five cubits the height thereof; and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.
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Given those measurements, the circumference should have been 31.4 cubits, not 30 cubits. (circumference = pi x diameter) The bible either got the measurements or the value of pi wrong.

This isn't something that is ambiguous or lost in translation. These are hard numbers that literally don't add up. How can something that makes such a erroneous mathematical claim be literally true?
 
edge said:
You can't act as God.
But you would have every right to smash the coke bottle.
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You can't even keep these analogies organized in your own head can you? The point is that while I may be justified in killing someone who is hurting my toddler, even if I only detain him until the authorities arrive I am still obligated as a responsible, loving parent to do something. One would expect a perfect, all powerful and all knowing parental figure to be able to look after all of its children perfectly. Yet even you must honestly admit that the great majority of all the "souls" God has made have been or will ultimately be written off and cast into unbearable suffering for all eternity. But he loves us, right?

Your arguments are so disorganized as to be simply sad.


P.S. You might want to read some more of Einstein's writings about religion. He used "God" as a metaphor for the laws of the universe. He didn't believe in your god.
 
Upchurch said:
Perhaps I missed it but I don't think any of the biblical literalists have answered my question. I will restate in more detail here:

Given those measurements, the circumference should have been 31.4 cubits, not 30 cubits. (circumference = pi x diameter) The bible either got the measurements or the value of pi wrong.

This isn't something that is ambiguous or lost in translation. These are hard numbers that literally don't add up. How can something that makes such a erroneous mathematical claim be literally true?
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They are using significant digits. 9.5 * pi = 29.8. That rounds to 10 * pi = 30. Of course, I would never design something that way.
 
RenaissanceBiker said:
They are using significant digits. 9.5 * pi = 29.8. That rounds to 10 * pi = 30. Of course, I would never design something that way.
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A 5% margin of measurement error is quite a bit. My understanding is that a cubit, depending on who you ask, is roughly equivalent to an english yard. That's about a foot and a half worth of rounding up.
 
Upchurch said:
Perhaps I missed it but I don't think any of the biblical literalists have answered my question. I will restate in more detail here:


Given those measurements, the circumference should have been 31.4 cubits, not 30 cubits. (circumference = pi x diameter) The bible either got the measurements or the value of pi wrong.

This isn't something that is ambiguous or lost in translation. These are hard numbers that literally don't add up. How can something that makes such a erroneous mathematical claim be literally true?
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A variety of explanations are given here.

http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/math.html
 
Upchurch said:
A 5% margin of measurement error is quite a bit. My understanding is that a cubit, depending on who you ask, is roughly equivalent to an english yard. That's about a foot and a half worth of rounding up.
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I said I wouldn't do it. I'm just anticipating the only reasonable apologetic response.
 
edge said:
CapelDodger,Ipecac,
I'm not perfect how about you?

I'm just trying to show you what you ask.
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Not sure why you asked, but of course I'm not perfect.

The difference between you and me is that I don't believe that a "loving" deity is judging my every move and plans to send me to an eternity of torture because I'm not perfect. I used to believe what you do and it was not a good way to live, under constant threat of eternal damnation, for actions that hurt no one. When I realized it was all a load of crap, I was set free. Not free to do whatever I felt like (as many Christians might say, "free to rape and kill"), but free to be who I am without fear. I choose to be a good person and to treat others with respect. I am not threatened into it.
 
fowlsound said:
Dear all internet trolls:

Please, before posting, use a spell check in the word processor of your choice. Also, please take a few moments to look up the differences between "no" and "know" as well as "your" and "you're", and of course "their" "there" and "they're."

In short, please do not expect a serious evaluation of your ideas if you appear to have the writing capabilities of the average 3rd grader. This type of poor communication skill forces us to want to pinch your cheek and say "Isn't that cute! You think you're being original!" rather than pay any attention to your feeble attempts at discourse.

You see, to explain our situation further, there is this event in the history of the internet which sadly brings into question the intelligence anyone who types l1ke th1z. We call this Eternal September. You see in September 1993 America Online opened the gates of their corral to flood Usenet (and eventually the entirety of the internet) with drooling, half-witted simpletons that began to post retardedly inane ideas under the misguided notion that they were clever, or revolutionary, or that no one in the world had ever heard this idea before. Those early trolls may have been the first to preach the word of Jesus, Allah, Xenu, Amway, or whatever other topic was the flavor of the week, but that was 13 years ago. It was irritating then, it is just laughable now. You are not original, you are not revolutionary, and you are not clever in the slightest. Please refrain from pretending that you are so that the rest of us can continue our nice cup of coffee and conversation on this little corner of the internet we call "our forum."

If you would like to learn some basic english skills, then we invite you to stay and order yourself a Chai Latte. Otherwise, please excuse yourself or face the derision, chiding and condescention of 13 years of dealing with idiots such as yourself from people who are far more clever and original.

Thank you in advance.

-The small consortium of literate and reasoning internet posters.
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Awwww! *wipes nostalgic tears from eyes*.

Reminds me of the good ol' "Delete the AOL.exe" hoax. Those were the days.........
 
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