The Bible is 100% true and to be read literally

[Paul]

In this day and age he shows signs to believers.

What's the point in that, you already believe.

We are able to discern between the two,

Well, aren't you the arrogant one.

Satan has you so he is not going to show you anything but a believer, now that's a different story.

Is god sulking because he's less powerful or persuasive than satan?

He has you to turn them around.

Cool, big g wants us to bring the believers back to the path of sin and pasta... OK and Great Cthulhu.

 

[edge]

If unbelievers are unable to discern between the two then why will God destroy them for their inability to see his truth? And if Satan has us but God really loves us and wants us to find him then why doesn't he take us away from Satan, or better yet, lock Satan away for all eternity. You tried the parenting analogy before so let's use it again. If I saw my young son hanging out with someone I knew only wanted to seduce, corrupt and destroy him I would separate them without delay and take measures to assure that this evil predator never came in contact with my, or anyone's, child again.

And implying that we are tools of Satan is just ******* ******!

What would you do if he was the worst of the worst.

 

[Paul]

Give me a break!

Perhaps, if you answer the question.

 

[Foster Zygote]

And soon, a Pirate ship, oh yes!

Can I get an Aaarrrr Matey?

ARRRRGH!

 

[Foster Zygote]

What would you do if he was the worst of the worst.

Please learn to construct an argument cogently.

I'll assume you mean "what if the evil person with my child was the worst of the worst?".

The same thing as I've already stated. Unlike your god I would immediately separate him from my child.

 

[Eos of the Eons]

A break? What for? It's a reasonable question. What is a soul?

To me, our soul is our brains...in that it is us, our thoughts, our consciousness, our sum total of life experiences all stored up in that "grey matter".

Once we die, we have no more soul. The only way we live on is through whatever of our dna got through to our children. If it is successful, then our children will have children, and some part of the age old information stored in our dna will get passed on somewhat hopefully again.

 

[Foster Zygote]

A break? What for? It's a reasonable question. What is a soul?

To me, our soul is our brains...in that it is us, our thoughts, our consciousness, our sum total of life experiences all stored up in that "grey matter".

Once we die, we have no more soul. The only way we live on is through whatever of our dna got through to our children. If it is successful, then our children will have children, and some part of the age old information stored in our dna will get passed on somewhat hopefully again.

I agree. But I would add that as we are social creatures capable of complex communication we get to pass on more than just our DNA to our offspring. We can pass on much of the content of those gray squishy things in our skulls, for good or bad.

 

[Eos of the Eons]

I agree. But I would add that as we are social creatures capable of complex communication we get to pass on more than just our DNA to our offspring. We can pass on much of the content of those gray squishy things in our skulls, for good or bad.

Yeah, and a lot of bullocks gets passed down to kids too. My son was influenced by fundies once. Then he saw a kid drip ice cream onto the kid's parent's car, and he told me that kid wasn't an xtian because the kid was being "bad".

You'll understand my son was talked to about xtians and how they can be just as bad as anyone else, since not all people in jail are non-xtians. I even told him about the molester priests and everything.

My son is still making up his own mind about gods, but I'm sure he understands that any human is cabable of being bad or good no matter what their beliefs supposedly are.

 

[Taffer]

I hope you're not holding your breath.

Paul



You may lose your soul, hahahahah

Don't worry, I've been around these parts long enough to know when to give up hope. It'd be nice to be proven wrong for once, though.

 

[Taffer]

Give me a break!

How about you just answer my questions? You continue to spout rubbish, but when your rubbish is challanged, you say "give me a break!". Perhaps you are not so sure of your beliefs as you think?

 

[Belz...]

You and FS may deny your maker, but I never will.

Appeal to emotions. That happens to be NOT an argument.

I'm really praying someday God opens your eyes.

Useless. If he's going to do it, he already knew long ago, and your prayers won't do squat. Same thing in the reverse.

Scripture tells us and I know it's true

How come the Koran isn't true, then ?

Someday PH you are going to regret thinking that way.

Speculative rhetoric. If scientists used that kind of reflexion, we'd still be in the stone age.

Jesus is very much alive and wants very much for you to accept him.

He should post on this forum, then.

You just don't see what you have been missing by rejecting him.

Feel-good make believe.

The only thing that sends anyone to hell is denying Jesus.

And you don't find that disturbing ? That your god will send people to hell because they decided to use evidence instead of faith ?

a wicked and perverted generation demands a sign but none will me given

Convenient.

The resurrection of Christ is evidence enough for me and millions of other believers.

Second-hand anecdotal evidence is no evidence at all.

housands of people saw him before he ascended

Not according to Mark.

And also lets not fail to mention people like me who have had the Lord reveal himself to them.

Or those who have imaginary friends (or men in black) who have revealed themselves to them.

I believe because he made me believe.

Circular reasoning.

 

[Belz...]

In this day and age he shows signs to believers.
We are able to discern between the two, Satan has you so he is not going to show you anything but a believer, now that's a different story.
He has you to turn them around.

You didn't answer my question: if satan makes me do what I do, how do I have free will ?

 

[Paulhoff]

When I was in the service we used the term “ate up with the dumb ass” to explain someone who has bought into the military “hook, line and sinker”. You know the type, a marine fresh out of booth camp, who when he is just walking is still marching, and looks has if he has a pole up his ass when he sits. And the three things he talks about are Marines, Marines and Marines.

Well that about sums it up for the Born-again too, except they are far worse and do more damage, like elected Bush,

Paul



and quote three things, the bible, the bible and the bible.

 

[Ossai]

kurious_kathy

Scripture is true and the documentation valid.

Good, then you finally admit that Jesus was not the messiah as I’ve already illustrated here.

I believe because he made me believe.

God subsumed your freewill in order to bring about a mindless worshiper.

Ossai

 

[aggle-rithm]

So, if I kill a bunch of people and rape little girls and rob old ladies I'm fine, just as long as I don't deny Jesus? This can't be right.

Shhh! Please don't jostle the shaky belief system.

 

[RenaissanceBiker]

What would you do if he was the worst of the worst.

I would give him ice cream. It's the worst of the worst of the worst I can't stand.

 

[Ipecac]

Has anyone else noticed that Kurious_Kathy, Edge, and 2LifeGuy appear to be tag-teaming? One will get into a "discussion" then drop out and the thread will be immediately picked up by the next one, and so on. That, and their predilection to spout nonsense, is making me start to think they're all one person.

 

[Upchurch]

Has anyone else noticed that Kurious_Kathy, Edge, and 2LifeGuy appear to be tag-teaming? One will get into a "discussion" then drop out and the thread will be immediately picked up by the next one, and so on. That, and their predilection to spout nonsense, is making me start to think they're all one person.

You can suggest this to the Mod Squad (preferably Lisa) and they can check it out. Odds are that they probably aren't, but you never know.

 

[Paulhoff]

Has anyone else noticed that Kurious_Kathy, Edge, and 2LifeGuy appear to be tag-teaming? One will get into a "discussion" then drop out and the thread will be immediately picked up by the next one, and so on. That, and their predilection to spout nonsense, is making me start to think they're all one person.

That would mean that there was some thinking going on with them, I see no signs of that.

Paul

 

[Freethinker]

Has anyone else noticed that Kurious_Kathy, Edge, and 2LifeGuy appear to be tag-teaming? One will get into a "discussion" then drop out and the thread will be immediately picked up by the next one, and so on. That, and their predilection to spout nonsense, is making me start to think they're all one person.

Edge is real. He's active in the challenge forum as a dowser.