Israel responsible for the anthrax attacks

stateofgrace said:
Let me get this straight.

Israel attacked the US with anthrax so the US would be fooled into thinking it was Iraq who attacked them and invade Iraq. This on the back of Intel which says Iraq has WMD and the fact that the USA had already decided to invade Iraq before any of these anthrax attacks happened.

Israel who just happens to be the USA's biggest ally and friend in the Middle East,if memory serves me correctly, the USA was the first country on the planet to recognise the State of Israel. The same State that receives untold billions in financial Aid from the USA actually attacks her ally with biological weapons and the USA just go along with it?

I think the only sucker around here is you my friend.
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No one knew who was responsible for the anthrax attacks when it occurred.
Th neocons used the anthrax attacks to suggest Iraq might have been involved.
The Israelis even planted a story suggesting an Iraqi agent gave Atta a vial of anthrax in Prague. Remember that story?
 
MaGZ said:
Were the neocons conditioning the American people to attack Iraq before 9/11? No
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they were probably busy conditioning all this lot.

The size and capabilities of the Coalition forces involved in operations in Iraq has been a subject of much debate, confusion, and at times exageration. As of August 23, 2006, there were 22 non-U.S. military forces contributing armed forces to the Coalition in Iraq. These 22 countries were: Albania, Armenia, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova, Mongolia, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, South Korea, and the United Kingdom.
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http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iraq_orbat_coalition.htm

Who just went along with the nasty neocon plot?

I'm out of this conversation with you pal, if you want to think that the US was attacked by Israel and have been conditioning everybody on the planet, fine on you go.

I actually don't agree with the war inside Iraq although I do hope for a speedy and safe return of all coalition troops. I actually base my believes on facts and evidence. Not some ridiculous plot involving shady Mossad agents fooling the USA who in turn conditioned all their own people to support a war involving 22 other countries on this planet.

If you think everybody around is has been conditioned , fine feel free. Of course they never fooled you though did they ?
 
MaGZ said:
The Senate anthrax was weaponized.

That was why US intelligence officials meet with NATO members to discuss the anthrax threat.
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No.

Washington Post said:
What was initially described as a near-military-grade biological weapon was ultimately found to have had a more ordinary pedigree, containing no additives and no signs of special processing to make the anthrax bacteria more deadly, law enforcement officials confirmed. In addition, the strain of anthrax used in the attacks has turned out to be more common than was initially believed, the officials said.
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Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/24/AR2006092401014.html

Like I said, the anthrax in no way resembles what an Israeli military effort would have produced.

To make my point bluntly:

  1. The anthrax matches the Ames strain, found in the US, and was available to many people
  2. The anthrax was packaged in a way that looks decidedly amateur
  3. There is no connection between Israel and the attacks
  4. You have no evidence for an Israeli connection, and you ignore evidence to the contrary
  5. You are a raging anti-semite

Now begone.
 
beachnut said:
Maybe you should ask someone who was alive during the attack. Sorry dumb guy it was an accident. We knew who did it, they knew they did it.

Too bad not even close on this one. Just believing the idiots who write books to make money from bigger idiots who buy them. Do you resemble that?

So how long have you been a NV neoNut for 12 dollars a month?
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Look who is the author.
http://www.ussliberty.org/jimsbook.htm

What should we have done to Israel after the attack?

Who's side are you on: Israel's or America's?
 
MaGZ said:
No one knew who was responsible for the anthrax attacks when it occurred.
Th neocons used the anthrax attacks to suggest Iraq might have been involved.
The Israelis even planted a story suggesting an Iraqi agent gave Atta a vial of anthrax in Prague. Remember that story?
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This story ?

The Czech government claims it has evidence that on April 8, 2001, Mohammed Atta, the ring-leader of the 9/11 hijackers, met in Prague with Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim Samir al-Ani, an Iraqi government official
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http://www.computerbytesman.com/911/praguefaq.htm

Goodbye pal, get some facts together before posting anything else.
 
stateofgrace said:
they were probably busy conditioning all this lot.



http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iraq_orbat_coalition.htm

Who just went along with the nasty neocon plot?

I'm out of this conversation with you pal, if you want to think that the US was attacked by Israel and have been conditioning everybody on the planet, fine on you go.

I actually don't agree with the war inside Iraq although I do hope for a speedy and safe return of all coalition troops. I actually base my believes on facts and evidence. Not some ridiculous plot involving shady Mossad agents fooling the USA who in turn conditioned all their own people to support a war involving 22 other countries on this planet.

If you think everybody around is has been conditioned , fine feel free. Of course they never fooled you though did they ?
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"shady Mossad agents"
Do you think intelligence agencies do things out in the open.
Most of the 22 countries you listed were bought by the US.
Why run away? Afraid you might learn something and start thinking?
 
Architect said:
"Weaponized" isn't a real word. Which is quite a coincidence, because your "evidence" doesn't seem to be real evidence.
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Uh, with no offense, in the US at least, "weaponised" is a real word - most often associated in the media with the other word anthrax - though it applies to any material not useable as a mass killing material in normal form but able to be processed in some way that makes it capable of harming/ killing large numbers. Like making it a fine powder rather than clumps.


Weaponised: Changed in content, form or other aspect to make capable of use as a weapon.
 
MaGZ said:
"shady Mossad agents"
Do you think intelligence agencies do things out in the open.
Most of the 22 countries you listed were bought by the US.
Why run away? Afraid you might learn something and start thinking?
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Don't delude yourself; I have better things to do with my time than address your fact less drivel.

Run away? Dear god, grow up child.
 
R.Mackey said:
No.



Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/24/AR2006092401014.html

Like I said, the anthrax in no way resembles what an Israeli military effort would have produced.

To make my point bluntly:
  1. The anthrax matches the Ames strain, found in the US, and was available to many people
  2. The anthrax was packaged in a way that looks decidedly amateur
  3. There is no connection between Israel and the attacks
  4. You have no evidence for an Israeli connection, and you ignore evidence to the contrary
  5. You are a raging anti-semite
Now begone.
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The FBI has changed their approach to the anthrax investigation now that they know Israel was responsible. This is why they will no longer discuss the investigation with the US Senate.
 
Hey MaGZ, what about the fact that the "9/11 anthrax strain"
seems to be american origin? :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=usamriid+anthrax&btnG=Google+Search

Although the anthrax preparations were of different grades, all of the material derived from the same bacterial strain. Known as the Ames strain, it was first researched at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID), Fort Detrick, Maryland. The Ames strain was then distributed to at least fifteen bio-research labs within the U.S. and six overseas.
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MaGZ said:
The FBI has changed their approach to the anthrax investigation now that they know Israel was responsible. This is why they will no longer discuss the investigation with the US Senate.
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Unsourced, untrue, and irrelevant.

The anthrax was not, as you claimed, weaponized. There is no link between that anthrax and any that might come out of a hypothetical Israeli weapons programme. Those facts remain, and you haven't even tried to address them.

You now add a new claim, namely "the FBI knows Israel was responsible." What's your basis for that? My source linked in my previous post, among the most trusted newspapers in the world, says quite the opposite. What have you got?

Better yet, just get lost. You probably blame Israel for the fact that you're an idiot.
 
Oliver said:
Hey MaGZ, what about the fact that the "9/11 anthrax strain"
seems to be american origin? :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=usamriid+anthrax&btnG=Google+Search
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True

But before 9/11 bio-pathogens were traded like playing cards among researchers.

From
The Anthrax Mystery: Solved
http://www.anthraxattacks.net/the-anthrax-mystery-solved.htm#more-5

In the past, microbiologists attending conferences on infectious diseases would take vials of various strains and simply swap them with each other to aid in their research. Martin Hugh-Jones, a scientist at Louisiana State University, stated that during this period deadly pathogens were traded “like playing cards.” In the real pre-9-11 scenario, any microbiologist in the world might have obtained the Ames strain.
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MaGZ said:
If Israel attacked New Zealand or spied upon you country how would you feel?

Are you a New Zealand patriot?
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Pretty miffed. Wouldn't make me racist though.

BTW there was a Israeli spy scandal in New Zealand (in case you didn't know).
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I am aware of that. I thought it was pretty odd - why would Israel want to spy on us? But, at any rate I seriously doubt Israel is the only country that spied/spies on us. I'm pretty sure America does it and possibly the Aussies as well, but we're buddies with them so it's not concerning.
 
R.Mackey said:
Unsourced, untrue, and irrelevant.

The anthrax was not, as you claimed, weaponized. There is no link between that anthrax and any that might come out of a hypothetical Israeli weapons programme. Those facts remain, and you haven't even tried to address them.

You now add a new claim, namely "the FBI knows Israel was responsible." What's your basis for that? My source linked in my previous post, among the most trusted newspapers in the world, says quite the opposite. What have you got?

Better yet, just get lost. You probably blame Israel for the fact that you're an idiot.
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The FBI knows Israel sent the anthrax because they have read the article "The Anthrax Mystrey: Solved".

You think what you read in the newspaper today is therefor true. Have you ever heard of the word "disinformation."

Read the early news sources.

2001 anthrax attacks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks
 
MaGZ said:
The FBI knows Israel sent the anthrax because they have read the article "The Anthrax Mystrey: Solved".
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Ah, so you told them, and they just accepted that as true, that's your story?

MaGZ said:
You think what you read in the newspaper today is therefor true. Have you ever heard of the word "disinformation."
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I asked you for your sources, not for you to categorically throw out all sources. This statement of yours neither proves nor disproves anything.

MaGZ said:
Read the early news sources.

2001 anthrax attacks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks
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So you don't believe "the newspaper" but you believe Wikipedia?

Need I point out that (a) Wikipedia agrees with me, and (b) it cites... newspapers?

Honest question for you: What level of education do you have? I'm sure we're all dying to know.
 
Coritani said:
Pretty miffed. Wouldn't make me racist though.



I am aware of that. I thought it was pretty odd - why would Israel want to spy on us? But, at any rate I seriously doubt Israel is the only country that spied/spies on us. I'm pretty sure America does it and possibly the Aussies as well, but we're buddies with them so it's not concerning.
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Go ahead, tell us what happened. You know, all that about stealing passports from little old ladies. Tell us what happened and stop covering up for them.
 
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