Killtown's 250+ Smoking guns

[Coritani]

I'm sure everybody's heard of or seen Killtown's "250+ Smoking guns" page. Has anyone properly debunked it? There's some stuff there that I haven't seen debunked yet.

The reason I ask is that I was thinking of writing a proper debunking of the smoking guns. I'm up to about #15 now, (started working on it a few hours ago - it's unsurprisingly easy) and I realised that I might be wasting my time if someone else has already done it.

So has anyone debunked it before?

 

[Oliver]

I'm sure everybody's heard of or seen Killtown's "250+ Smoking guns" page. Has anyone properly debunked it? There's some stuff there that I haven't seen debunked yet.

The reason I ask is that I was thinking of writing a proper debunking of the smoking guns. I'm up to about #15 now, (started working on it a few hours ago - it's unsurprisingly easy) and I realised that I might be wasting my time if someone else has already done it.

So has anyone debunked it before?

Hey - we're talking about Killtown ... that alone debunks it...

 

[Coritani]

Hey - we're talking about Killtown ... that alone debunks it...

Yeah, there's definitely a few contradictions in these 'smoking guns'.

Still, it'd be nice to slap him over the head with a proper debunking.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

ive wanted to go through and and separate those that support LIHOp from those that support MIHOP and see how much evidence woul dbe left if he ever posed a cohesive theory, lol

 

[Bubbers]

He can't even make it one point without making a mistake and being deliberately misleading. Incredible.

 

[apathoid]

Some of these really underscore Killtown's ignorance and lack of research....

#251

Sept 9 - Alleged Flight 175 hijacker pilot Marwan Al-Shehhi reportedly leaves behind Boeing 757 manuals, east coast flight maps, an airplane fuel tester, and a protractor in his hotel room. (Augusta Chronicle) Flight 175 was a Boeing 767. (9/11 Commission)

The 757/767 is a dual type rating for pilots.....

757 Cockpit
767 Cockpit

 

[Brainache]

Killtown has over 250 smoking guns and every single one of them shot him in the foot. You'd think he might realise by now he shouldn't play with guns.

 

[PerryLogan]

Too many smoking

There is also a larger point--that the existence of too many smoking guns disproves a conspiracy. CTs just don't get this.

Even if Killtown's 250 smoking guns are taken as valid, their sheer number rules out the possibility of a conspiracy. No one could be so incredibly sloppy and yet still fool everyone in the world but a few conspiracy nuts. (If you don't understand this, you're a conspiracy guy.)

 

[PerryLogan]

Some of the smoking guns prove the opposite:

Number 234: Sept 13 - Bush Admin allows Bin Laden family and top Saudi officials to evacuated from US before general public flight restrictions were lifted.

This absolutely proves 9/11 was not an inside job. If the administration had been behind 9/11, they would most certainly have flown the Bin Ladens out before 9/11. Case closed.

 

[Brainache]

They would?

Who says?



Sorry just trying out the KT stylee

 

[fuelair]

You gotta get the name right!! Killclown!! ( or clownhole, or something clowny???)

 

[Gravy]

Rather than spending time on all those points, which have each been debunked individually, I would simply point out that Killtown's "smokingest smoking gun" – his BEST evidence of US gov't involvement (according to him) – is the Val McClatchey photo.

Really, do you need to know more than that?

 

[CHF]

Killtown's list is a classic throw-crap-against-the-wall effort.

Some are MIHOP, some LIHOP and many contradict eachother.

 

[stateofgrace]

No 2.

March '00 - Filming begins for The Lone Gunmen's 'Pilot' episode that depicts a US plot to crash an electronically hijacked Boeing 727 into WTC and blame foreign terrorists to provoke war and increase military's budget (KC Star), March '01 - 'Pilot' episode airs on FOX TV, 6 months before attacks (TV Guide), Lone Gunmen co-producer hopes WTC attack wasn't 'somehow inspired' by anything they did. (KC Star)

Huh?

They made a pilot episode for the Lone Gunmen and this is one of his smoking guns?

Yep, Killclown I see where you are with this. I can see the preps planning one of the worst acts of mass murder in the USA's history and somebody suddenly asking.

“By the way have we dropped the script off at FOX TV yet?"

Brilliant idea.

 

[jhunter1163]

Killtown's smoking something, all right.

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

No 2.




Huh?

They made a pilot episode for the Lone Gunmen and this is one of his smoking guns?

Yep, Killclown I see where you are with this. I can see the preps planning one of the worst acts of mass murder in the USA's history and somebody suddenly asking.

“By the way have we dropped the script off at FOX TV 6 yet?"

Brilliant idea.

Wow, and Tom Clancy had something similar in Executive Orders iirc, and Stephen King had something similar in The Running Man (written as Bachman).

 

[chipmunk stew]

No 2.

Huh?

They made a pilot episode for the Lone Gunmen and this is one of his smoking guns?

Yep, Killclown I see where you are with this. I can see the preps planning one of the worst acts of mass murder in the USA's history and somebody suddenly asking.

“By the way have we dropped the script off at FOX TV 6 yet?"

Brilliant idea.

I've actually heard this rationalized before (I forget where). It goes something like this:

The perps surely must have brought in Hollywood talent through their Zionist connections to help plan the operation. The amount of special effects, clever plots twists, misdirection, and showmanship involved was enormous, so they'd need the best Hollywood had to offer. So someone involved in the planning either floated an idea already incorporated into the Lone Gunmen script, or borrowed the idea for the script.

 

[CurtC]

Number 234: Sept 13 - Bush Admin allows Bin Laden family and top Saudi officials to evacuated from US before general public flight restrictions were lifted.

This absolutely proves 9/11 was not an inside job.

And of course, it's false. The bin Ladens flew out of the country on September 20.

 

[Horatius]

So someone involved in the planning either floated an idea already incorporated into the Lone Gunmen script, or borrowed the idea for the script.

So here's another potential smoking gun they can't find: Is the credited script writer still alive? Because if I was some super-evil super-genius, and some punk hack blabbed my carefully-laid evil plans to the whole world in an X-files spin off, I'd be really pissed. Said hack wouldn't live to cash his royalty cheques.....

 

[The Silver Shadow]

Wow! Just wow! All 250 "smoking guns" are so hilariously stupid, I don't know what to say. I have debunked 19 of them without even using google and while studying for my tests today...