• Quick note - the problem with Youtube videos not embedding on the forum appears to have been fixed, thanks to ZiprHead. If you do still see problems let me know.

Killtown's 250+ Smoking guns

Sept 9 - Alleged Flight 11 hijacker sleeps with a high-priced prostitute (Boston Herald), Sept 10 - Four alleged hijackers spend the night looking for prostitutes in Boston. (Boston Globe)

Yeah, I'm sure that'll show those OCTs about their theory...
 
I took on Mr. Town directly, in this thread, back when he was a poster here. This was also before we discovered that he was more than willing to hassle ordinary people in real life over his delusions, making him in my opinion the absolute lowest of the low within the Idiot Movement.

My plan was to tackle his WTC 7 claims first, then gradually demolish his entire list (which was a mere 200 at the time, not 250+). However, it rapidly became clear that I was debating an uncommonly obstinate and stupid person, and after I won a few early, minor concessions, he quickly clamped down and reverted to sheer contrarianism.

I abandoned the effort completely after backing him so far into the corner that he admitted his "smoking guns" were utterly subjective. "Do I have ``smoking guns'' in quotes, or not?" he said. No kidding.

After that I concentrated on his harrassment of Val McClatchey. We ran him out of town on that issue.

I doubt you will find a more toxic individual anywhere. Debunking his longer list would be quite easy, but probably not worth it. I have yet to see a single person cite his list, other than the boy himself, so I question its relevance (and his relevance) to the Idiot Movement as a whole.
 
I doubt you will find a more toxic individual anywhere. Debunking his longer list would be quite easy, but probably not worth it. I have yet to see a single person cite his list, other than the boy himself, so I question its relevance (and his relevance) to the Idiot Movement as a whole.
On my favourite Belgian forum, my CT-friends brought KT's list as evidence!

After I (and other debunkers) rubished it, they started the project to dedicate one thread to each "smoking gun".
The first one, about Operation Northwoods, went the usual way. The second one (about the Lone Gunmen episode) made them the laughing stock of the forum (even more than usual), and the third one (NORAD exercices) interested noone. The project ended there ... :)
 
It is typical of many CTs to create posts with a dozen or so links and demand that we read, watch everyone of them despite the fact that they usually are repetitions of the same things over and over. When you don't view all of them you are told you can't, or won't attempt to, refute all of the evidence.

Similarily Killtown creates these 250 plus points in order to be able to say that no one can, or is willing to try to, dispute all of the 'evidence' of gov't complicity. To further this end he also keeps moving the goalposts. He simply dreams up more 'evidence'. Recent point of fact is the allegations that the grad student was killed to cover up something about OBL. Tomorrow, next week or next month he'll have another out of context, quote mined, fantasical tale to add to his 250+ so far.

He is convinced that he is right about everything he has written. The only facts he really needs is that he thought of it and from there he ignores anything contradictory to that thought.
 
(about the Lone Gunmen episode)


LOL

It amazes me when CTs take a work of fiction and make it into something significant in the real world..

Jules Verne's capsule in which men went to the Moon is seen as significant by some. OMG how did he know??? All it proves is that Verne did his homework. He calculated the amount of volume required by the passengers on board, the distance to the Moon etc. and made sure that any science known at the time was incoporated into his story. His imagination was not constrained by that science.

This is typical of the best fiction writers and thus it is no surprise that a work of fiction may , in hindsight, be quite good at foretelling events in the future.

IIRC Heinlien wrote a short story during WW2 in which a nuclear weapon is used. At the time the Manhattan Project was already underway and he actually had FBI agents show up and ask hime where he got the information about the weapon he wrote about. In fact his weapon was what we now describe as a dirty bomb, one that scatters radioactive substance rather than explodes in a thermonuclear blast.
 

Back
Top Bottom