LAL, surely you remember Rick's non-scientific conditions/limitations that DY would have to accept in order to examine the cast? To the uninformed you make it sound like DY could just waltz into town and examine the cast at his leisure, when that's not the case at all. As I said elsewhere, "I'm certainly not against DY looking at the original cast, nor even making a scientific pronouncement about it, but as a scientist, he should not be forced to play by non-scientific rules."
I've posted the link to the debate at least twice, once with the admonition to use originals wherever possible from DY himself that I used in my sig line for awhile. On the thread is Kathy's offer to pay DY's way, DDA's offer to pick him up at the airport and the conditions, as well as the observation that Meldrum, Swindler and Sarmieto didn't seem to object to being filmed, and, of course, DY's refusal through HM. Rick explained about his correspondence with DY, and getting the feeling he was about to be stabbed in the back.
If people are staying uninformed, it's not because I haven't tried to inform them.
Others voiced similar concerns.
So? Rick's the curator, the cast is on private property and he has a right to set the terms. The cast has been open for examination to qualified people and their familes from the beginning. Did Daegling view it? Radford's been denied access for obvious reasons.
And I'd like to see and experiment to determine if Dr. Meldrum (and others) can "differentiate between prints made by real feet, and prints made by forgeries", as DY asked in the initial post of this thread.
Why not. I'd like to see that too. If Jeff's as quick as he was on
Rocky Mountain Bigfoot, it'll be a short demonstration. Maybe Jeff can do it on his lunch hour.
In your opinion. The challenge admits, "...the conditions are not easy", and in my opinion they're not so reasonable either.
It wouldn't have been easy for hoaxers, either. That's the point.
For example, the first paragraph says,
"One hundred thousand dollars is being offered by the Willow Creek China FLat Museum for anyone who can demonstrate how the "Bigfoot" tracks that were observed in the Bluff Creek valley in northern California in 1958 and later could have been made by a human or humans."
What do they mean by "and later"? Does that mean a single applicant must duplicate ALL "Bigfoot" tracks that have been found after 1958?
No, I think it just includes the ones John witnessed, such as BC/OM.
Anyone know whether a formal challenge has been issued? <snip>
Ask John. Surely you have his e-mail?
Is that why the challenge is worded in a way that seems to excludes them? "...it is not meant as a challenge to the people who originated that story, who may well be perfectly sincere."
Is this a fact, or merely your opinion? John seems to think 'they' may be perfectly sincere, it's the publicity of a perceived hoax at Bluff Creek that was the impetus for the challenge (at least that's what the challenge says).
He's made his opinion on the Wallace family claims quite clear in print and in presentations. They "always knew" Ray did it, but they were apparently unaware the wooden feet (which had been hanging openly in the souvenier shop for years) were an inch shorter than the tracks they were supposed to have made. They waited until Ray was dead and couldn't answer questions about the location of the tracks in 1958. He wouldn't have known. He wasn't in the area at the time the Crew tracks were appearing.
"Family members agreed that they had always known about it and that Ray did it as a joke on his employees, walking around wearing a huge pair of carved wooden feet.
For proof one of them showed a photographer just such a pair of carved feet, with strap harness attached.
The story was nonsense on the face of it, since everyone who had looked into the subject knew that huge bipedal tracks had been reported from all over North America starting long before Ray Wallace was born."
http://www.bigfootencounters.com/articles/wallace_flap.htm
Was John supposed to reference himself in the book? He was a witness to those tracks. So was Dahinden. Did John reference him?
Why, was there a challenge issued to refute it?
RayG
The Wallace's haven't collected the money, have they? A couple of them suggested high lead logging. No such equipment was at the site and none could have been snuck by the night watchman, hence the bit about machinery.
("Thank you, Lu for going to all that trouble in the middle of the night to get the challenge legible so I could nit-pick it." " You're welcome, Ray. It only took about an hour.")
