How Loony are the Loons?

I went back to the OP to refresh my memory of what it said and noticed that my only post in this thread was post #2. In which I said:

How Loony are the Loons?

Words fail.

Sigh. Wrong again, Gord. Wrong again. But I have to say this is the funniest thread I have read in years!
 
Joh dat kan RemoveBush toch helemaal niet lezen? Ik begrijp er zelf ook geen jota van, laat staan RemoveBush. Wat is dat voor een taal? Ik denk trouwens dat ik het wel weet, maar ik denk niet dat RemoveBush het weet. RemoveBush weet trouwens sowieso niet veel. Hij is gewoon gek en heeft last van samenzweringswaanzin en achtervolgingsangsten, dat klopt toch, RemoveBush??

De vakantie is begonnen, het is bijna Kerstmis. Hoog tijd dus om je hele huis in de Kerstsfeer onder te dompelen.
Maar, als je nu alle ramen en deuren eens zou volhangen met Ketnet K's, ons Ketnet logo, ... Kortom, alles dat met Ketnet te maken heeft, dan kunnen wij zien dat je een échte Ketnet fan bent!
En waarom niet het hele jaar door je huis verketnetten? Ketnet fan ben je natuurlijk altijd, niet alleen tijdens de Kerstvakantie!!!

Bewijs ons dat je een echte Ketnet fan bent door een foto van je verketnette huis te maken en hem naar ons te mailen via het onderstaande formulier. We hebben echt een foto nodig van Ketnet-versieringen op je huis, een foto van jezelf is niet voldoende!
 
De vakantie is begonnen, het is bijna Kerstmis. Hoog tijd dus om je hele huis in de Kerstsfeer onder te dompelen.
Maar, als je nu alle ramen en deuren eens zou volhangen met Ketnet K's, ons Ketnet logo, ... Kortom, alles dat met Ketnet te maken heeft, dan kunnen wij zien dat je een échte Ketnet fan bent!
En waarom niet het hele jaar door je huis verketnetten? Ketnet fan ben je natuurlijk altijd, niet alleen tijdens de Kerstvakantie!!!

Bewijs ons dat je een echte Ketnet fan bent door een foto van je verketnette huis te maken en hem naar ons te mailen via het onderstaande formulier. We hebben echt een foto nodig van Ketnet-versieringen op je huis, een foto van jezelf is niet voldoende!

That's the most perfect desciption of RemoveBush I have ever seen. So true.

Hoe dan ook, RemoveBush, het beeldbuis programma waarnaar Architect verwijst, is een jongerenprogramma. Je weet wel, RemoveBush, voor kleine kinderen zoals jij. Eigenlijk, niet voor kleine kinderen zoals jij. Kabouter Plop is meer een programma voor jou, RemoveBush. Van die kleuter zooi.
 
"Kiwiwriter - In other words...you are not presenting any documented proof, as shown by my highlighting."

But NEITHER have YOU or anyone else here! You expect others to do WHAT YOU WILL NOT DO?

"Do you have proof that the US government instigated Israel's attack on the USS Liberty? No."

I have provided links, look them up!

"Do you have proof that the DNA was tampered with? No."

Do YOU have proof that it was NOT? Do you have an oversight committee that whitnessed the processing? NO!

" Do you have proof of what happened to these passengers? Who murdered them? How? When? Where? What was done with the bodies?"

No, because an investigation (a proper one) needs to be performed to determine any of the questions that come up from that investigation. By the way!!!! PLEASE SHOW ME WHERE I HAVE SAID THAT THERE WERE NO PASSENGERS ON THOSE PLANES? I have questioned whether or not those were the planes as the government HAS NOT shown evidence of this. They refuse to this day! I bring up QUESTIONS and suggest that there are alternate possibilites, YOU being a EDUCATED person SHOULD know that! Apparently not, because YOU too only read WHAT YOU WANT out of what I post!

"You are saying that the United States government, for weeks and months in advance, determined who would be flying on those four planes, researched their lives in painstaking detail, faked their final phone calls to a tight level, rounded up these passengers, massacred them, and then disposed of the bodies, with neither traces left behind, nor witnesses, nor a paper trail."

See my previous post! That is NOT what I have said or suggested. I say that the day did not happen the way we are told. Smart guy..... Here is another possibility for you to ponder! Perhaps they took over the controls by remote, turned off the oxygen and/or gassed the people. Perhaps! Here is another question for you smart guy!!!! Out of FOUR aircraft, NOT ONE was able to key the mike to provide voice notification of a hijacking or switch on the emergency frequency, NOT ONE!!! Highly UNLIKELY!

" This is a level of competence and secrecy that could only work in fiction, such as a James Bond movie."

Really! Only the planes involved are CAPABLE of being controlled remotely are hijacked, not one signal as stated above and you claim that this is a work of fiction? The work of fiction is the Official Story!

"Rubbish. All the great acts of massacre left behind all kinds of evidence, Holocaust deniers to the contrary...anecdotal, paper, and forensic. Even the killers themselves have confessed their misdeeds...Hoess shortly after the war, Eichmann years later. Your ideas would make a good movie, but little else. Of course, I wouldn't classify "Loose Change" as a good movie."

Sure! You want to put any weight to someone who says "Yeah we did this" and give them the credit, you go right ahead. The Government will not even classify OBL on the Most Wanted list DUE TO LACK OF EVIDENCE for 9/11!

"You are making these accusations, and then jettisoning your responsibility to prove your points by calling for "an independant investigation." (It's "independent," by the way."

OHHHHH, spell master is worried about spelling in a blog! Then I suggest you DEMAND the site places spell check as an item on the toolbard, or shut the hell up about spelling!

"Accuracy depends on proper use of the English language, among other things). In other words, you have no proof beyond your belief that it's all a conspiracy."

Wrong! There are several things that IF brought before a court of law would be enough to CONVICT! We have convicted people on less evidence then has been gathered for 9/11 being an inside job then other people were convicted for. i.e. Scott Peterson.

"I guess to you, 9/11 is merely another manifestation of the same conspiracy theories you held before, as your references to "North Woods" and USS Liberty show."

No! I look at the evidence! I make decissions BASED on the evidence! Unlike MANY of the people here!

"Sorry, you're not going to play the trolling game with me. It's standard practice for internet trolls to make conspiratorial or defamatory statements, and then expect your internet interlocutors to prove your point or prove you wrong, thus putting them on the defense, and relieve you of the pesky burden of actually having to do work and provide evidence for your remarkable claims."

Wrong again... DING DING DING, tell him what he has won alex.....
I have brought up issues and questions and pointed out that MORE THAN ONE alternative exists with the evidence. Just because YOU don't like that evidence does not mean that you should chastise people for bringing these up!

Also, if you DON'T want people like me to stay away, then don't copy their posts on other blogs and try to attack them like rabbid dogs behind their backs. When they come here and stand up to you, then they are being a troll. TYPICAL ONE SIDED VIEW especially from a SUPPOSEDLY educated person.

"It's intellectually lazy and extremely dishonest."

See my post directly above!

"You are admitting that you have no proof for your assertions beyond your firm belief in them, and expecting that your interlocutors will do the hard work, and present you with that three-ring bound briefing book from the Grand Worshipful Master of Prince Hall Grand Masonic Lodge to President Bush, telling him and his staff how they are to accomplish the conspiracy theory you dream up. Wrong answer. I already did my Master's Thesis, thank you, and I don't have to do yours."

Alex, we have another winner..... What prize do you have for them for the most rediculous and lies in one sentence.
I have admitted nothing of the such, but you and you like LOVE to put words into other peoples mouth. You then make claims that are LIES and DISTORTIONS. Oh, and by the way..... I submitt plenty when I need to support a stance. When I am presenting an alternative possibility, then what PROOF are you expecting????? By the way, in case you did not know it...... This site does not allow links until a certain number of posts, and if you go back and READ you will find I do support what I say when I am presenting FACTS!

"And the cell-phone issue has been dealt with elsewhere in this thread...those were Airphones, incidentally."

A FEW were, but there were SEVERAL that were CELL phones! You just don't do your research very well, I would hate to see what YOUR Thesis grade was with this type of research.

"And this level of fakery would require these omnipotent federal agents to know all these phone numbers, fake all these voices, fake all these personal conversational styles, and do so in a highly emotional situation...that requires not only a great deal of intelligence skills, but a lot of acting ability...and a lot of time in preparation."

Correct, but again!!! You are taking a VERY NARROW and child like veiw! You don't think that within a few minutes if they had the manefest, that they could not have the phone numbers right after the passengers boarded? Are you really this ignorant or are you playing one on this blog? Do you think that it is NORMAL for a plane to travel across the country with a plane only 1/4 filled? Not just ONE but FOUR? It is not! I travel all the time and there have been times that they did fly, but I have had to catch another plane many times because they cancelled the flight because there were not enough people on the flight.

"Do you think a government that couldn't do a good job of finding large weapons of mass destruction would be this capable of fakery? It's a silly idea, and you have no proof."

Do you really believe that Bush's reason for invading Iraq was really for WMD's??? Why would they find something that they really were not looking for?

"And as for "North Woods," you have been watching "Loose Change" a bit too much. The plan was suggested and never acted upon, and the general who dreamed it up went no further in his military career."

Actually the document came from the CHIEFS OF STAFF! I do believe that there are more than ONE general in that committee? Also, this goes to show ABILITY to committ an atrocity such as 9/11! The government wrote it down! They were READY to perform it! The only reason they did not is because someone with MORALS said NO! This is JUST LIKE someone writting a letter about how he is going to kill his family because they made him mad, but does not do it until 20 years later. This WILL become evidence that HE ONCE PLANNED to do something like this. EVIDENCE!!!!

"It's also worth noting that part of the planning and brainstorming process involves putting together a wide and wild variety of ideas, including some that are clearly off-the-wall, mostly to stimulate discussion or awareness of possibilities and scenarios. "North Woods" didn't get much past a conference, except for Dylan Avery's little film. Armies make plans. That's what they do in peacetime, when not square-bashing."

Yes they do, and being a VET I can tell you that those plans DO NOT include attacking civilans and blaming someone else for the attack. They revolve around how might we get attacked and what kind of response would we be capable of delivering.

"During the 1920s, the US developed "War Plan Red," for conflict with Britain and the Empire, in great detail. It called for mechanized advances on Ontario and Quebec, and the plan was refined several times through to 1932. Ultimately, the plan was filed away and then declassified (you can read about it in Military History Quarterly magazine), because of its unlikely nature. However, the studies used for the plan proved useful during World War II in working out transportation issues for supplying Canada and defending the continent, and it honed the planning skills of the officers who ultimately led the US Army to victory in Europe and the Pacific."

But the plan did NOT intend on ATTACKING its own citizens!!!!

""North Woods" is interesting, but it's not relevant, except to conspiracy theorists."

See my previous comment about how it shows a MOTIVE and is EVIDENCE that the government contemplates this and contemplation is only ONE STEP from completion.

"No, you're going to have to do better than simply giving your "beliefs." You are making accusations that the United States government expended vast sums of money, time, energy, manpower, and man-hours to arrange the mass murder of thousands of people, including the airline passengers, doing so in total secrecy and at a level of government involvement that would by definition make secrecy difficult or even impossible."

Yes! There is a FACTION of the government, much like a FACTION of the government runs drugs but we are in a "war on drugs". You are making it out like there had to be Hundreds or Thousands of people involved. WRONG! You seem to think that ALL those people involved needed to be from the US? WRONG! Since most of the "hijackers" were from Saudi Arabia it is possible that they assisted.... Maybe Pakistan, and even perhaps Isreal. This way, those LEAKS you keep talking about are not there!

For someone who is "supposedly" educated, you don't seem to think much for yourself. What was your major, accounting?

"The Manhattan Project and Bletchley Park left paper trails."

Yes it did, but HOW MANY YEARS did it take for that information to become available?

"Your plan has not."

Actually, there has been many people who have stepped up to the plate to provide information, but they have been gagged. Siebel Edmonds ring a bell??? Most gagged person in HISTORY! She states that if 9/11 was to truely investigated, that "Several High Level Government Officials would be going to prison." This is ONLY ONE small example, if and when you refute this I will proceed further.

"The Holocaust left behind wrecked camps and witnesses."

Yes it did.

"Your plan does not."

Yes it does! See the comment just above about Seibel Edmonds.

"You will have to do better than that. And you will have to learn to use the "quote" key. And you will have to learn to spell. And you will have to learn to stop yelling. And you should also read a little more Kant and Descartes, and a little less conspiracy theory web pages.

D-minus. Try again."

Perhaps YOU should actually get out of your basement once in a while so you can have an opportunity to read informative information, rather than what ever Mr. Bush and company sends you.
 
Sorry about the multiple posts, the system keeped erroring so I kept trying not knowing that it was posting.
 
Sorry about the multiple posts, the system keeped erroring so I kept trying not knowing that it was posting.

Only a slight change from you going on the last few days not knowing what you were posting.

EDIT: You should still have another hour and ten minutes to edit your posts and remove the redundant content. Or is that another feature yuo refuse to use just to make an arse of yourself?
 
The first ten amendments to the U.S. Constitution (the Bill of Rights), in Japanese.

欲 求、憲法のいくつかの州の大会は制限する節が促進し、そして政府の国民信用の地面の拡張としてmisconstructionか濫用を防ぐために最もよく 施設のbeneficent端を加えられるべきである宣言する保証する力の表現された採用の時に、持っている; 、によって解決する修正として次の記事が複数の州の立法府に提案されること、同意している米国の憲法に、両方の家の3分の2の米国の上院そして衆議院、集 まっている議会; 言われた憲法の一部として有効言われた立法府の4分の3事実上批准された場合であるために、即ち、そのすべてまたは記事: 修正I 宗教の確立を尊重するか、またはそれから自由な練習を禁止している議会は法律を作らない; または、または出版物の言論の自由を要約する; または集まり、不満の矯正のための政府に嘆願する人々の権利温和に。 修正II よく調整された在郷軍は、自由国、人々の権利の保証に必要で腕を保ち、耐える侵されない。 修正III 兵士はあらゆる家で、所有者の承諾なしで、戦争の時に平和の時に、四等分される、法律によってある意味では規定されるために。 修正IV 人々の権利は彼らの人、家、ペーパーおよび不合理な調査に対して効果で安全、および握りである違反されないし、令状は宣誓によってか断言、および特に捜さ れるべき場所および握られるべき人または事記述すること支えられた推定原因に、出ない。 修正v 人は首都、か別の方法で評判が悪い罪のために、土地か海上部隊で、または在郷軍の陳述か起訴で起こる、場合のを除く大陪審の答えるために、時戦争または公 衆の危険の時以内に実際のサービスで握られない; どの人でも二度生命または肢の危険に置かれるべき同じ違反のために従がう; あらゆる刑事訴訟で彼自身に対して証人である強いられる生命、自由、または適法手続きなしで特性の、奪い取られなさい; 私用特性は正当な補償なしで公共の使用のために、取られる。 修正VI すべての刑事告発では、訴えられた地区が法律によって前に確認されてしまう楽しみ、告発の性質そして原因の知らせられる、罪が託されてしまう地区および州 の公平な陪審によって迅速な、公共の試験に権利を、; 彼に対して証人と直面されるため; 彼の好意の証人を得るための強制的なプロセスを持つため、そして彼の防衛のための相談の援助を持つため。 修正VII 論争の価値が20ドルを超過する普通法のスーツでは、陪審による試験の権利は維持され、陪審が試みた事実は普通法の規則に従ってより米国のあらゆる裁判所 で他では、再検査されない。 修正VIII 余分な保釈は要求されない、余分な罰金、加えられた冷酷かつ非道な罰は課される。 修正IX 憲法の等置は、ある特定の権利の、人々が保った他を否定するか、または軽蔑するために解釈されない。 修正X 米国に憲法によって委託されない、州へのそれによって禁止される力はそれぞれ州、または人々に確保される。
 
The first ten amendments to the U.S. Constitution (the Bill of Rights), in Japanese.

欲 求、憲法のいくつかの州の大会は制限する節が促進し、そして政府の国民信用の地面の拡張としてmisconstructionか濫用を防ぐために最もよく 施設のbeneficent端を加えられるべきである宣言する保証する力の表現された採用の時に、持っている; 、によって解決する修正として次の記事が複数の州の立法府に提案されること、同意している米国の憲法に、両方の家の3分の2の米国の上院そして衆議院、集 まっている議会; 言われた憲法の一部として有効言われた立法府の4分の3事実上批准された場合であるために、即ち、そのすべてまたは記事: 修正I 宗教の確立を尊重するか、またはそれから自由な練習を禁止している議会は法律を作らない; または、または出版物の言論の自由を要約する; または集まり、不満の矯正のための政府に嘆願する人々の権利温和に。 修正II よく調整された在郷軍は、自由国、人々の権利の保証に必要で腕を保ち、耐える侵されない。 修正III 兵士はあらゆる家で、所有者の承諾なしで、戦争の時に平和の時に、四等分される、法律によってある意味では規定されるために。 修正IV 人々の権利は彼らの人、家、ペーパーおよび不合理な調査に対して効果で安全、および握りである違反されないし、令状は宣誓によってか断言、および特に捜さ れるべき場所および握られるべき人または事記述すること支えられた推定原因に、出ない。 修正v 人は首都、か別の方法で評判が悪い罪のために、土地か海上部隊で、または在郷軍の陳述か起訴で起こる、場合のを除く大陪審の答えるために、時戦争または公 衆の危険の時以内に実際のサービスで握られない; どの人でも二度生命または肢の危険に置かれるべき同じ違反のために従がう; あらゆる刑事訴訟で彼自身に対して証人である強いられる生命、自由、または適法手続きなしで特性の、奪い取られなさい; 私用特性は正当な補償なしで公共の使用のために、取られる。 修正VI すべての刑事告発では、訴えられた地区が法律によって前に確認されてしまう楽しみ、告発の性質そして原因の知らせられる、罪が託されてしまう地区および州 の公平な陪審によって迅速な、公共の試験に権利を、; 彼に対して証人と直面されるため; 彼の好意の証人を得るための強制的なプロセスを持つため、そして彼の防衛のための相談の援助を持つため。 修正VII 論争の価値が20ドルを超過する普通法のスーツでは、陪審による試験の権利は維持され、陪審が試みた事実は普通法の規則に従ってより米国のあらゆる裁判所 で他では、再検査されない。 修正VIII 余分な保釈は要求されない、余分な罰金、加えられた冷酷かつ非道な罰は課される。 修正IX 憲法の等置は、ある特定の権利の、人々が保った他を否定するか、または軽蔑するために解釈されない。 修正X 米国に憲法によって委託されない、州へのそれによって禁止される力はそれぞれ州、または人々に確保される。

Pretentious? Watishi?? :D
 
Sorry about the multiple posts, the system keeped erroring so I kept trying not knowing that it was posting.

Could you please use the 'edit' button and remove the text in the multiple posts? Thanks much.
 
Here is another possibility for you to ponder! Perhaps they took over the controls by remote, turned off the oxygen and/or gassed the people. Perhaps! Here is another question for you smart guy!!!! Out of FOUR aircraft, NOT ONE was able to key the mike to provide voice notification of a hijacking or switch on the emergency frequency, NOT ONE!!! Highly UNLIKELY!


Seriously, I worked in the Airline business a long time, the 767 or 757 is not equipped to fly remotely, never has been. Even if so, the pilots would notice the new controls and equipment in the cockpit, in fact, several pilots who flew the planes would have seen them. As well as all the techs.

Do you think that some evil cabal put in the remote hardware in the dead of the night (when they weren't busy shipping in explosives to the WTC), and no one noticed at AA or UA?)

Are you that stupid? Or are you just being another CT, throwing out as much crap as possible because you keep being proven wrong?

Is it any wonder everyone laughs at kooks?
 
"Gravy - THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT! There was far more concrete by weight in the towers than drywall. But drywall makes up a greater percentage of the dust."

There could be serveral reasons for that! Do we know where he gathered those samples? What manner did he gather them? What type of perimeter did he obtain them in?

I never saw any of this information in the information! Therefore, there could be a large error factor. Besides, please show me where is the concrete in this photo?
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/janedoe444/trouble/20_cushman.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/janedoe444/trouble/19_flattened.jpg

If your "theory" were true, there would be evidence of concrete at the collapse. Please show me where it is!

"Now what does that tell you, RemoveBush?

See my comment above!

"That's my last reply until you learn to use the quote button, you inconsiderate person."
 
Sorry about the multiple posts, the system keeped erroring so I kept trying not knowing that it was posting.

Thats because you are manually trying to quote using your CPU to store the text to clipboard. then commenting within this text. if you weren't such a
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Deleted word for insult. Please remain polite.
and used the built in on site quote feature here which saves text to ITS memory you wouldn't have that problem. I guess they didn't teach those things at Devry. You have a limited time to clean up the mess that you made after that you will in likelihood be banned for multiple post spam. hey its your choice.
 
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Enough with the Quote Button

We get the idea that RB does not understand, among many other things, the function of the quote button. But, guys, enough already! I mean, we could be pointing out that Boeing airliners can't be flown by remote control. That little fact destroys the whole goddam fantasist position. Do we really want RB to scamper off proclaiming his victory? Were his arguments so cogent that we had to concentrate on his inability to format his posts properly? It's annoying, but can we move on?
 
"babazaroni - Did you know that the quote function will do all this and give a link to the original quote and format for readability, with less effort?"

Actually, there are several steps with this approach! If I want to break the quote up and comment on it individually, what a pain in the arse!

Sorry, but copy and paste works just fine!
 
We get the idea that RB does not understand, among many other things, the function of the quote button. But, guys, enough already! I mean, we could be pointing out that Boeing airliners can't be flown by remote control. That little fact destroys the whole goddam fantasist position. Do we really want RB to scamper off proclaiming his victory? Were his arguments so cogent that we had to concentrate on his inability to format his posts properly? It's annoying, but can we move on?
To me the issue is, "does he give a damn?" He appears to be simply flinging stuff at a wall, and doing it rudely. Not worthy of a response IMO.
 

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