How Loony are the Loons?

[RemoveBush]

"You are not an engineer."

ABSOLUTELY!!! 10 years and 4 years in the military in a similar field.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

"You are not an engineer."

ABSOLUTELY!!! 10 years and 4 years in the military in a similar field.

and what field might that be?

 

[apathoid]

OK smart guy..... Take a wooden chair..... Cut off on of its legs. Now stand on it and tell me what way does the chair want to fall???? Does it want to fall straight down or does it want to fall toward the missing leg?

Can I get an OMFG?!?! Engineer......yeah right.

 

[Mr. Skinny]

Really?

Please explain your understanding of pressure relief valves on high pressure systems and what they do. Please explain why they are vital to ensure that things that are not over pressurised do not damage the equipment.

You being an engineer will have no problem with this.

Ps Relief valves= windows (a clue)

Ooh! Ooh! *raises hand* I know this.

 

[apathoid]

"You are not an engineer."

ABSOLUTELY!!! 10 years and 4 years in the military in a similar field.

I'll take "Something a Real Engineer Wouldn't Say When Pressed for Credentials" for a $1000, Alex.

 

[Mr. Skinny]

"Hey, I was just making a joke, man. Thought a "brother" engineer would understand."

I know!!! I was not criticizing you in any way..... My comment in the last sentance was for those that do, you made it clear that you make mistakes as well.....

I hope you did not take that in a negative way?

Well, to be honest, I did take it in a negative way, because I had tried to include myself in the criticism.

Anyhow, no harm - no foul.

 

[RemoveBush]

"Please explain your understanding of pressure relief valves on high pressure systems and what they do. Please explain why they are vital to ensure that things that are not over pressurised do not damage the equipment."

Yes they do, but not in a SEALED enviroment (like the WTC). They have valves that allow the pressure to be reduced, the WTC was not a "valve" for pressure. The bulding was HERMETICALLY sealed. Therefore, the air would had to of gone through the path of LEAST resistance, which was the shafts. The elevator doors were closed. What blew them and then created a small pin point hole in only a few windows???? If there was that much pressure, a large portion would have blown. PHYSICS escapes you again??? The "air" would not have ended up 20 floors below, it would be in several floors below the collapse where the GREATEST pressure would be.

"You being an engineer will have no problem with this."

I have no problem with this, but you seem to have a problem understanding that with pressure, it would have blown out more windows rather than just a small pin hole for the air to escape.

"Ps Relief valves= windows (a clue)"

Apparently not for you.

 

[apathoid]

Ooh! Ooh! *raises hand* I know this.

Hey, I'm not an engineer and even I know this one.

 

[RemoveBush]

"and what field might that be?"

Electronics! Automotive, safety, and testing.

 

[A W Smith]

Sure I believe you are an engineer. Conrail or Amtrak? Man you blew your cover with the squibs. Im not even going to bother bringing up the many posts and threads for that. Tell me something. lets see you use math right now. Lets take the volume of one floor which will be about 435600 cubic feet. Where did you think the volume of air went during the collapse of each floor? and what would the resultant PSI be of the air as each floor collapsed?

 

[JimBenArm]

"Please explain your understanding of pressure relief valves on high pressure systems and what they do. Please explain why they are vital to ensure that things that are not over pressurised do not damage the equipment."

Yes they do, but not in a SEALED enviroment. They have valves that allow the pressure to be reduced, the WTC was not a "valve" for pressure. The bulding was HERMETICALLY sealed. Therefore, the air would had to of gone through the path of LEAST resistance, which was the shafts. The elevator doors were closed. What blew them and then created a small pin point hole in only a few windows???? If there was that much pressure, a large portion would have blown. PHYSICS escapes you again??? The "air" would not have ended up 20 floors below, it would be in several floors below the collapse where the GREATEST pressure would be.

"You being an engineer will have no problem with this."

I have no problem with this, but you seem to have a problem understanding that with pressure, it would have blown out more windows rather than just a small pin hole for the air to escape.

"Ps Relief valves= windows (a clue)"

Apparently not for you.

Come on, this is 28IQ again, isn't it? Same attitude, same BS, same everything.

Welcome back, Macaroon!

 

[Dr. Lao]

"Focus like a laser beam, you are trying to blow all your mega conspiracies in one shot, and by doing so, you are living up to every CT stereotype out there."

Wrong! I am providing information for your NARROW mind to show events that occured similarly! I realize you don't understand the concept, apparently, but this is done to show connections and a history of such events.

You haven't provided squat Jack.

Just the usual CT crap, and when you are asked to prove something, you just jump to another theory. Pitiful.

And, for God's sake, get even the small details right, like the fact it was a 767, not a 757, much larger plane, trust me.

 

[apathoid]

"and what field might that be?"

Electronics! Automotive, safety, and testing.

Electronics huh? That pertains to building collapses, how?

 

[defaultdotxbe]

"and what field might that be?"

Electronics! Automotive, safety, and testing.

so how often do you deal with skyscrapers in electronic automotive safety testing?

 

[stateofgrace]

I never said they were not "going very fast"! I said they were not going 500 MPH like we were told by the way citizens were able to track them with little issues.

So what speed were they going ?

With a building like the WTC's it would have take a lot more than ONE plane to do enough damage to take them out. The structure would have TOPPLED from the stress of the weight being applied to one portion of the building.

Once again explain your understanding of the construction of these building. Please explain the relationship between the core, the floors spaces, and the external supports.

Please explain why it would take more than one plane to do the highly visibly damage that was observed.

Please explain your understanding of inertia.

OK smart guy..... Take a wooden chair..... Cut off on of its legs. Now stand on it and tell me what way does the chair want to fall???? Does it want to fall straight down or does it want to fall toward the missing leg?

Like WTC 2 did when it collapsed into the side where the plane hit it? Yes I see where you are coming from.

Ps chairs don't normally weigh in at 500, 000 tons and stand over 1300 feet but other than that your expert engineering appraisal of the situation is spot on.

It that simple enough for your or should I talk in baby language?

No you baby language is fine just now, please keep it up.

 

[RemoveBush]

"If RB is, in fact, an engineer, he is an embarassment to the profession at this point in the thread."

You think your something???? You too have provided nothing! Yet you want to attack someone for discussing something that YOU have provided ZERO rebuttle on.

"RB, this has all been debated here before. Spend a week or two reviewing the old threads here. Loose Change I - IV are 'stickied" threads at the top of this forum, and Gravy's Loose Change critique addresses a lot of the issues you've jumped back and forth between."

I came here to debate the attacks against my email to a government office claiming lies that have no evidence to support. Yet you believe that this is POINTLESS. What are you an Engineer in, Sanitation?

"It seems pointless to cover all of this ground again."

I guess when someone is jailed for a drug case we can just throw them in jail because the same thing has been brought up already so why bother?

 

[JimBenArm]

"and what field might that be?"

Electronics! Automotive, safety, and testing.

Really? And that makes you qualified to question civil, mechanical, and structural engineers? Not to mention the professional architects who are present here as well?

You are out of your depth, boy. You're gonna get it handed to you, big time. Not by me, but the others here that know what they speak of.

I am so going to love this.

 

[ConspiRaider]

"and what field might that be?"

Electronics! Automotive, safety, and testing.

I knew it!

A friggin' crash dummy wandered off the test site and ended up at JREF.

Ever freefall into a wall, RB? What's that like?

 

[Mr. Skinny]

"Please explain your understanding of pressure relief valves on high pressure systems and what they do. Please explain why they are vital to ensure that things that are not over pressurised do not damage the equipment."

Yes they do, but not in a SEALED enviroment (like the WTC). They have valves that allow the pressure to be reduced, the WTC was not a "valve" for pressure. The bulding was HERMETICALLY sealed. Therefore, the air would had to of gone through the path of LEAST resistance, which was the shafts. The elevator doors were closed. What blew them and then created a small pin point hole in only a few windows???? If there was that much pressure, a large portion would have blown. PHYSICS escapes you again??? The "air" would not have ended up 20 floors below, it would be in several floors below the collapse where the GREATEST pressure would be.

"You being an engineer will have no problem with this."

I have no problem with this, but you seem to have a problem understanding that with pressure, it would have blown out more windows rather than just a small pin hole for the air to escape.

"Ps Relief valves= windows (a clue)"

Apparently not for you.

I am now beginning to doubt that you are an engineer.

Hermetically sealed? Jeebus, does it have air locks that people must pass through?

Would you like to try again and explain in more detail? I honestly am having a hard time understanding your explainations.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

"and what field might that be?"

Electronics! Automotive, safety, and testing.

/foreheadsmack

Working with car engines does not make you an engineer.

The words actually refer to quite different things.