How Loony are the Loons?

I guess when someone is jailed for a drug case we can just throw them in jail because the same thing has been brought up already so why bother?
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no, but once the trial is over its silly to clal al the witnesses back up because someone walked intot eh courtrom off the street and missed the trial
 
ConspiRaider said:
I knew it!

A friggin' crash dummy wandered off the test site and ended up at JREF.

Ever freefall into a wall, RB? What's that like?
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That's where I've seen him before! It's Buster from the MythBusters, come to visit us!

Hi, Buster!
 
"Sure I believe you are an engineer. Conrail or Amtrak? Man you blew your cover with the squibs. Im not even going to bother bringing up the many posts and threads for that. Tell me something. lets see you use math right now. Lets take the volume of one floor which will be about 435600 cubic feet. Where did you think the volume of air went during the collapse of each floor? and what would the resultant PSI be of the air as each floor collapsed?"

Hey TOOL, I hate to tell you but air is going to go through the path of the least resistance and one or two windows is not going to cut it..... I will bet money that you had not idea, or clue, that the WTC was a hermetically sealed enviroment and that the air would force it's way through the path of least resistance.

NO WAY would 10 to 20 stories, multiple times, shoot air out before where the collapse was occuring. Your not a very smart engineer are you?
 
RemoveBush said:
Yes they do, but not in a SEALED enviroment (like the WTC). They have valves that allow the pressure to be reduced, the WTC was not a "valve" for pressure. The bulding was HERMETICALLY sealed. Therefore, the air would had to of gone through the path of LEAST resistance, which was the shafts. The elevator doors were closed. What blew them and then created a small pin point hole in only a few windows???? If there was that much pressure, a large portion would have blown. PHYSICS escapes you again??? The "air" would not have ended up 20 floors below, it would be in several floors below the collapse where the GREATEST pressure would be.
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You are no engineer. You have no idea what you are talking about. High pressure relief valves are exclusive to sealed systems and this is precisely what happened when the windows blew out.

Why would air have gone out of the elevator doors that you even said were closed? Please stop talking in areas you have no idea about. The air would not have ended up 20 floors below. It would have been compressed locally and blown out localised windows.
I have no problem with this, but you seem to have a problem understanding that with pressure, it would have blown out more windows rather than just a small pin hole for the air to escape.
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You have no problem because you are not an engineer nor have you even studied engineering principles. Once a window was blown out the localised pressure is released and the pressure would drop. It would not blow out more windows, one is enough to relief it.

Apparently not for you.
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Sure whatever you say.
 
RemoveBush said:
Yes they do, but not in a SEALED enviroment (like the WTC). They have valves that allow the pressure to be reduced, the WTC was not a "valve" for pressure. The bulding was HERMETICALLY sealed. Therefore, the air would had to of gone through the path of LEAST resistance, which was the shafts. The elevator doors were closed. What blew them and then created a small pin point hole in only a few windows???? If there was that much pressure, a large portion would have blown. PHYSICS escapes you again??? The "air" would not have ended up 20 floors below, it would be in several floors below the collapse where the GREATEST pressure would be.
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Oh bloody hell...

IT WAS AN OFFICE TOWER, NOT A GAWDDAMN SPACESHIP!!!
 
RemoveBush said:
I never said they were not "going very fast"! I said they were not going 500 MPH like we were told by the way citizens were able to track them with little issues.
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RemoveBush, are you aware of how they measured the speeds of the aircraft just prior to impact? If yes, what are your specific objections to this method?

Can you prove, with evidence, that the flights were going much slower than their estimated speeds of 470 and 590 mph?
 
JimBenArm said:
Come on, this is 28IQ again, isn't it? Same attitude, same BS, same everything.

Welcome back, Macaroon!
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Yep. Gotta be 28th Kingdom.

Another giveaway: 28th Kingdom always ignored all my previous posts against his nonsense. Notice? Same thing in THIS thread!

This is the guy with the 150 IQ, right? By taking the IQ test 28 times, then adding them up? RB is certainly showing his affinity for "maths" once again...
 
"/foreheadsmack

Working with car engines does not make you an engineer.

The words actually refer to quite different things."

Hey MORON!!! I never said I work with "engines".

E-L-E-C-T-R-N-I-C-S!

Morons like you seem to lump EVERYTHING into a tight little package!

I have dealt with Electrometers, and Spectrometers. Sorry son, but you just have not freeking clue what your talking about.
 
RemoveBush said:
"/foreheadsmack

Working with car engines does not make you an engineer.

The words actually refer to quite different things."

Hey MORON!!! I never said I work with "engines".

E-L-E-C-T-R-N-I-C-S!

Morons like you seem to lump EVERYTHING into a tight little package!

I have dealt with Electrometers, and Spectrometers. Sorry son, but you just have not freeking clue what your talking about.
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and thats even farther from skyscrapers
 
RemoveBush said:
"If RB is, in fact, an engineer, he is an embarassment to the profession at this point in the thread."

You think your something???? You too have provided nothing! Yet you want to attack someone for discussing something that YOU have provided ZERO rebuttle on.
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I have provided nothing because there seems to be no single point under discussion yet. Please pick one point you wish to debate, and if I feel qualified to debate it, I'd be glad too. I'm sure others here will debate it if I'm not up to the task.


I came here to debate the attacks against my email to a government office claiming lies that have no evidence to support. Yet you believe that this is POINTLESS.
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Fair enough. You have a specific email to discuss. Regardless, it seems all the points in your email and the rebuttals to it have been discussed here ad infinitum, nearly.

What are you an Engineer in, Sanitation?
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My career has been in Fire Protection, Pressure Vessels, Occupational Safety, Environmental Management,and Industrial Hygiene.

I know you menat this as a slam, but I hear Sanitation Engineers earn very good money.

"It seems pointless to cover all of this ground again."

I guess when someone is jailed for a drug case we can just throw them in jail because the same thing has been brought up already so why bother?
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Goodness no! I do however, expect the attorney for the accused to research the law before he appears in court spouting legal theories that have been settled previously in higher court decisions.
 
"I am now beginning to doubt that you are an engineer."

What ever!

"Hermetically sealed? Jeebus, does it have air locks that people must pass through?"

The stair wells were about the only thing that did not have a damping valve (I believe thats right). Once there was a fire, the valves would close and the building was Hermetically sealed. Please do some damn research!

"Would you like to try again and explain in more detail? I honestly am having a hard time understanding your explainations."

I will try to find the article that discusses this.
 
"so youve been to school for a year or two and you know youve seen it all"

Try 2 years for my first degree and 4 years for my second, not to mention the 10 plus years in the field.

I would say that I have EARNED experience in my industry.

What do you have a GED?
 
RemoveBush said:
"/foreheadsmack

Working with car engines does not make you an engineer.

The words actually refer to quite different things."

Hey MORON!!! I never said I work with "engines".

E-L-E-C-T-R-N-I-C-S!

Morons like you seem to lump EVERYTHING into a tight little package!

I have dealt with Electrometers, and Spectrometers. Sorry son, but you just have not freeking clue what your talking about.
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Actually its E-L-E-C-T-R-O-N-I-C-S (electronics)
 
The stair wells were about the only thing that did not have a damping valve (I believe thats right). Once there was a fire, the valves would close and the building was Hermetically sealed. Please do some damn research!
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so if theres a fire anyone not in the stairwells just suffocates?
 
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