This is the thread that may very well change the way you look at 9/11 FOREVER!

[uk_dave]

However, posting pictures of cats in a thread like this is equal to pissing on the graves of those who died on 9/11.

No it isn't, it's pissing on your inane posts.

How about answering some of the questions put to you instead of scurrying from one topic to another?

You came here with your ego on overdrive and your tail in the air thinking you had the goods to prove to us mere mortals that 911 was a government conspiracy. And all you presented was the same old same old debunked crap which we have seen (some more than I) time and again, and time and again those who post it get all flouncy and petulant because the garbage they believed they were the sole person who could understand has been torn to pieces by some very clever and well informed minds on this forum.

So stop your fake indignation and answer the logical questions which have been posed and which you have been too much of a coward to address because, we can rightly assume, you KNOW that your evidence is weak to non-existant and your arguments do not stand up to scrutiny.

If you have one iota of sense in that brain of yours I suggest you give your ego a rest for a few days and learn from this forum instead of trying to dictate to it.

oh and cut the anti-semetic crap too, it's old, tired and pathetic.

 

[stateofgrace]

You wrote this..............

I posed a question a few pages back..asking what it would take for me to prove that 9/11 was an inside job. I said...even if I give you a clear piece of video tape footage that shows G.W. Bush admitting to being involved in 9/11 - you people would still find a way to try and dismiss it. I said, you would be like..well, maybe it was a slip of the tongue...you know he's not the best speaker in the world. *insert picture of cat*

Well, here is a clear as day video of Rumsfield...saying that Flight 93 was shot down:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYqLA4X6dQ4

The official story was that the passengers...were heros and brought the plane down. So, if that video footage doesn't prove that the official story contains lies...than I don't know what does.

Then you write this.

No actually...me taking time out of my life to try and get justice for the victims of 9/11 equals caring. (Justice will only come when America has united as a whole. I as one person cannot bring justice for the victims) However, posting pictures of cats in a thread like this is equal to pissing on the graves of those who died on 9/11.

This is a serious subject matter...and some of you are completely disgracing the memory of those who died...by spamming this thread with inane junk. Show some class how about it.

Are you so disrespectful ?

Are you now , sitting the comfort of your bedroom mocking the final terrifying moments of these peoples lives ?

You have claimed this was a drone plane heading towards New York to fly into WTC 7.

You are claiming the desperate phone calls from this flight are not real.

You are claiming the blackbox flight recorder which captured the dreadful final moments of these peoples lives is fake.

YOU are claiming the deaths of these people is a lie.

YOU are claiming they did not do all they could to save their own lives.

YOU are the most disrespectful person I have ever come acrross.

YOU should get in touch with all the famiies that had loved ones on this flight and tell them , they are lying, tell them their loved ones are not heros, tell them the phone calls were fake.

You are disgrace to this event, you are a disgrace to your fellow countrymen, you are a disgrace to humanity.

 

[A W Smith]

This is the thread that may very well change the way you look at 9/11

Same feces.. Different shovel

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Same feces.. Different shovel

to be fair i hadnt seen that "flights 11 and 77 were fake" thing before

of course it took all of 2 minutes to debunk

 

[Gravy]

The only math you need to do is figure out how much the lease cost Silverstein for WTC 1 & 2 - and then how much he received from the insurance claim. He profited over 3 billion dollars on one day. Who else in the world can say they made more money on 9/11 than Larry Silverstein?

Newsflash. At this point. Silverstein has 3 billion dollars. He's not obligated to rebuild anything...if he is rebuilding it's treated as a new business venture...that is to make him even more profit. People don't build buildings to lose money.

28th Kingdom, you have no idea what you're talking about.

None.

Zero.

Why do you care enough to make hundreds of posts here, but not enough to do the slightest bit of research?

That's a serious question. Why, 28th? Why are you spewing this nonsense? Why don't you give a damn?

We've taken the time to direct you to the resources that will answer your questions. One of them is right there in my signature. The fact that you refuse to read these things tells me that you're just another ignorant troll.

Goodbye, and get a grip on yourself. Your behavior is disgusting.

 

[28th Kingdom]

Saying people in the KKK (select group of individuals from a certain race) are evil = Good Upstanding Citizen (Non-racial statement)

Saying people in 'al Qaeda' (select group of individuals from a certain race) are evil = Good Upstanding Citizen (Non-racial statement)

Saying people in the Zionist Movement (select group of individuals from a certain race) are evil = Anti-Semite (Racist statement)

You have learned well.

 

[Gravy]

This is a serious subject matter...and some of you are completely disgracing the memory of those who died...by spamming this thread with inane junk. Show some class how about it.

See my last post, Einstein.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Saying people in the KKK (select group of individuals from a certain race) are evil = Good Upstanding Citizen (Non-racial statement)

Saying people in 'al Qaeda' (select group of individuals from a certain race) are evil = Good Upstanding Citizen (Non-racial statement)

Saying people in the Zionist Movement (select group of individuals from a certain race) are evil = Anti-Semite (Racist statement)

You have learned well.

if said zionist supports the notion of killing anyone who isnt jewish you can call him evil all you want and ill call you an upstanding citizen

but i digress, about those victims on the planes, what happened to them if all the flights were drones?

 

[uk_dave]

Saying people in the KKK (select group of individuals from a certain race) are evil = Good Upstanding Citizen (Non-racial statement)

Saying people in 'al Qaeda' (select group of individuals from a certain race) are evil = Good Upstanding Citizen (Non-racial statement)

Saying people in the Zionist Movement (select group of individuals from a certain race) are evil = Anti-Semite (Racist statement)

You have learned well.

You can't even get that right can you?

How about comparing jews with muslims and christians instead of comparing them with american nazis and arab terrorists?

 

[28th Kingdom]

YOU are claiming the deaths of these people is a lie.

Actually, a little guy by the name of Donald Rumsfield...who had a small position called the Secretary of Defense during 9/11...is admitting in plain clear view, that flight 93 was shot down. He is the one who is saying people on flight 93 didn't bring it down like reported in the news. Am I really the one in denial here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYqLA4X6dQ4

 

[Pardalis]

Actually, a little guy by the name of Donald Rumsfield...who had a small position called the Secretary of Defense during 9/11...is admitting in plain clear view, that flight 93 was shot down. He is the one who is saying people on flight 93 didn't bring it down like reported in the news. Am I really the one in denial here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYqLA4X6dQ4

full quote:

I think all of us have a sense if we imagine the kind of world we would face if the people who bombed the mess hall in Mosul, or the people who did the bombing in Spain, or the people who attacked the United States in New York, shot down the plane over Pennsylvania and attacked the Pentagon, the people who cut off peoples' heads on television to intimidate, to frighten – indeed the word 'terrorized' is just that. Its purpose is to terrorize, to alter behavior, to make people be something other than that which they want to be.

So...

a) Al Qaeda shot down flight 93
b) the USG attacked New York, the Pentagon, Madrid and the Mosul mess hall
c) Rumsfeld misspoke

Which is the most logical assumption 28th?

 

[ConspiRaider]

No actually...me taking time out of my life to try and get justice for the victims of 9/11 equals caring. (Justice will only come when America has united as a whole. I as one person cannot bring justice for the victims) However, posting pictures of cats in a thread like this is equal to pissing on the graves of those who died on 9/11.

This is a serious subject matter...and some of you are completely disgracing the memory of those who died...by spamming this thread with inane junk. Show some class how about it.

Did you ever look at 911 from any angle other than one of antagonism?

Did you ever consider that 911 could have been much worse, but for the efforts of heroic individuals across the board? Did you then contemplate that maybe your complete disregard for the actions of those on the scenes of 911 could be viewed as the most uncaring cuts of all?

Did you ever consider the actions of the 250+ rescue workers who had to battle heat and darkness and fumes and noise and confusion while searching the Pentagon wreckage for victims they might be able to save? Did you know that some of those workers reported seeing charred passengers still strapped to their seats - INSIDE the Pentagon? Do you realize the dishonor you've brought upon those workers by your irrational insistence that Flight 77 never hit the Pentagon at all?

Did you know that no one we know of died when Building 7 collapsed? Do you know this was due to the actions and observations and decisions being made by firemen who were right in the thick of it at WTC 7? Don't you realize that by their pooling of information, they were able to determine that the most prudent action was to abandon and withdraw from WTC 7? Because human life was considered worth more than a lousy building? And when they pulled out of the vicinity, and the building did indeed collapse - no fatalities? Do you acknowledge that your implications of complicity by firefighting personnel completely scorns their efforts at dealing with a desperate and potentially fatal situation?

Cats. And smartass posts. You know why we do that? Because at our cores, we are TERRIBLY serious about this. But a person cannot function in a state of total grimness for very long. Occasional levity is a safety valve, a built-in sanity saver, while we try to blunt the onslaught of lies and inane beliefs of conspiracy theorists.

Join the ranks of true skeptics. You'll be a happier person for it - and so will be the people whom you touch in your life. CTism is an abyss.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Actually, a little guy by the name of Donald Rumsfield...who had a small position called the Secretary of Defense during 9/11...is admitting in plain clear view, that flight 93 was shot down. He is the one who is saying people on flight 93 didn't bring it down like reported in the news. Am I really the one in denial here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYqLA4X6dQ4

he says al qaeda attacked america, al qaeda destroyed the planes (but obviously this cant be trusted because rumsfeld is in the government) but when IN THE SAME BREATH his misstates that flight 93 was shot down, this is the gospel truth?

how is it you can accuse all of us of doublethink while ignoring all of your own? is that some kind of triplethink?

but back to those passengers, where are they?

 

[beachnut]

Actually, a little guy by the name of Donald Rumsfield...who had a small position called the Secretary of Defense during 9/11...is admitting in plain clear view, that flight 93 was shot down. He is the one who is saying people on flight 93 didn't bring it down like reported in the news. Am I really the one in denial here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYqLA4X6dQ4

Debunked to the max! Where have you been?

Debunked by events. You have messed up again. Very disrespectful

 

[The Atheist]

Please guys do me a favour and stop feeding this inane idiots ego.

14 Pages devoted to this fools ONE question which WAS answered.

You people SURELY have better things to do that keep responding to this idiot.

He clearly is not reading or comprehending ANYTHING you have shown him and told him.

He is either a simpleton or is just in here playing with you (I’ll punt for a bit of a combination).

When he posts that the epitome of a critical thinker is one who rejects expert advice it shows what a complete moron he is !

THERE… Now even I have wasted some time.. but I can assure you it is ALL I will waste on this nincompoop !

14 pages? Psssh. Now over 50 of them.

Now 2500 posts in one week!

Just a quick question: You guys do realise that these trolls aren't interested in debate, just wasting your time, eh? Looks like they succeed beyond their wildest dreams. This guy's going to go home and tell his friend [singular] that you guys argued with him for 1000 pages and STILL couldn't debunk his BS. His friend will believe him and no doubt tell his friend.

Still, beats shooting christians, I guess.

Enjoy.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Cats. And smartass posts. You know why we do that? Because at our cores, we are TERRIBLY serious about this. But a person cannot function in a state of total grimness for very long. Occasional levity is a safety valve, a built-in sanity saver, while we try to blunt the onslaught of lies and inane beliefs of conspiracy theorists.

Join the ranks of true skeptics. You'll be a happier person for it - and so will be the people whom you touch in your life. CTism is an abyss.

everytime i a CTers post makes me want to punch my monitor as hard as i can i scroll down a bit and see a picture of a kitten, and i justc ant do it

 

[28th Kingdom]

full quote:

So...

a) Al Qaeda shot down flight 93
b) the USG attacked New York, the Pentagon, Madrid and the Mosul mess hall
c) Rumsfeld misspoke

Which is the most logical assumption 28th?

The logical assumption is that NORAD shot down the plane over PENN. USG attacked NYC, Pentagon...and Rumsfield had a Freudian slip.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

The logical assumption is that NORAD shot down the plane over PENN. USG attacked NYC, Pentagon...and Rumsfield had a Freudian slip.

I think all of us have a sense if we imagine the kind of world we would face if the people who bombed the mess hall in Mosul, or the people who did the bombing in Spain, or the people who attacked the United States in New York, shot down the plane over Pennsylvania and attacked the Pentagon, the people who cut off peoples' heads on television to intimidate, to frighten – indeed the word 'terrorized' is just that. Its purpose is to terrorize, to alter behavior, to make people be something other than that which they want to be.

so the part in red refers to an unnamed party, blue is the USG, green is norad, and purple is just lies (because jihad is a myth) all int he same sentence

or

I think all of us have a sense if we imagine the kind of world we would face if the people who bombed the mess hall in Mosul, or the people who did the bombing in Spain, or the people who attacked the United States in New York, shot down the plane over Pennsylvania and attacked the Pentagon, the people who cut off peoples' heads on television to intimidate, to frighten – indeed the word 'terrorized' is just that. Its purpose is to terrorize, to alter behavior, to make people be something other than that which they want to be.

red refers to al qaeda and green is a misstatement that should have been "brought"

and yet this isnt doublethink at all?



anyway, about those passengers...

 

[Horatius]

I posed a question a few pages back..asking what it would take for me to prove that 9/11 was an inside job.

Yes, you asked us what proof we would need five days ago.

And before I had even read that post, I had given you a clear list of things that I (and probably others) would accept. It wasn't too long after that that others chimed in with other suggestions for evidence that you could submit.

So you've spent five days not giving us any of the evidence we're looking for, and now you're acting like we've never told you what to look for.

I said...even if I give you a clear piece of video tape footage that shows G.W. Bush admitting to being involved in 9/11 - you people would still find a way to try and dismiss it. I said, you would be like..well, maybe it was a slip of the tongue...you know he's not the best speaker in the world. *insert picture of cat*

Well, here is a clear as day video of Rumsfield...saying that Flight 93 was shot down:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYqLA4X6dQ4

And now, rather than actually spending any time trying to find some of the types of evidence we suggested you look for (suggestions that you solicited), you're now expecting us to agree that Rummy saying 93 was "shot down" by AQ is perfectly equal to "a clear piece of video tape footage that shows G.W. Bush admitting to being involved in 9/11".

This isn't good evidence even by your own standards, let alone ours.

Oh, and since you asked for it,

 

[28th Kingdom]

We invaded Iraq...because Iraq was connected to the war on terror, yes? Because they might of had WMD's or because Saddam had ties to al Qeada, right? Just yes or no, please.