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This is the thread that may very well change the way you look at 9/11 FOREVER!

babazaroni said:
One picture is a close-up, the other is not.
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http://www.debunking911.com/cut3.jpg
A metal worker told us you can even see the drag lines of the cut.

Also depends on how well they did the cut some were more smooth than others. Some had more slag than others.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/docs/fsn/gzexcavate3.jpg

It also should be easy to conferm the location of the cut if one wants to search the rubble pile for earlier photos.
Again this one is pinned.
 
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Timble said:
You're repeating yourself, saying something does not constitute proof.

If you carry on repeating yourself you're liable to be reported for spamming.
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I think 28k believes that iron is black because cast iron skillets are black. Once again, using common sense in an uncommon situation leads to invalid conclusions.

28k: The more pure iron is, the more silvery it becomes. The more impure, the more black. Cast iron has more impurities than steel, that's why cast iron skillets look black.

Got it now?
 
28th Kingdom said:
Come on man...please cut out the charades. I am presenting clear visual evidence for my claims...and none of you can even present anything that even begins to approach something that would back up what your saying?

BTW, if I said that I'm a nuclear physicist would that change your opinions about what I have been saying?
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Then you are insane and lost all credibility.

You show a clean up cut on steel column; proves your thermite is wrong.

Proof presented by you making all your claims invalid!

Good job, we let you debunk yourself proving you use junk from CT sites.

Wow, you have zero facts, and actually now border on being just anogher CT liar.
 
28th Kingdom said:
What evidence do any of you have that Jones' research is SHODDY? Pure assumptions. You are basing that notion solely on the fact that...if whatever he (Jones) says differs from the NIST...than it is considered shoddy. That is a completely mindless logic. You are basically debunking yourselves with this type of thinking...because, on one hand you say, well if it's true (Scientific evidence of therma/ite - Inside Job) than why hasn't anyone come out to the media and tried to show the evidence...WELL THEY HAVE...but they get dismissed. SOLELY ON THE FACT THAT WHAT THEY ARE SAYING doesn't echo the NIST Report. Don't you see the paradoxical situation you are creating with your beliefs?

The university was probably forced to let him go...pressured from powers that grant the college LOTS OF MONEY!
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He was fired due to his paper; which is junk. Show me what journal it is in, and I will show you why it is more junk.

His first version (red flag, first version of his peer paper!!) only used thermite like you, but it does not work! He checked with CD experts they told him it will not work but he is so obstinate he keeps thermite but adds RDX to make things work.

Wow, you missed the fact his peer paper keeps changing. Why does the paper keep changing when most peer reviewed papers never change?

You are nuts, as is Dr Jones by supporting the thermite card. Thermite will not do what you want; and you can not prove how it would work.

You wave your hands and say thermite. You debunk yourself with a simple photo of a after 9/11 cut, as thermite proof, proving once and for all you are a fraud.

Fraud, thy name is 28th. (photo fraud used by other CT guys)
Not very original
 
28th Kingdom said:
"a) thermite can't cut columns like that"

Pure fantasy...we know therma/ite is capable of cutting through steel...

The reason therma/ite was used on the WTC is because of the unique core columns...no other buildings have these...so that's why no other CD has ever used therma/ite.

I think I found a barometer here....the better point I make...the more insults you hurl at me. And, none of you are serious, about the color of that slab...the edges are grey? THE EDGES are almost completely covered with the IRON. IN the fews places it's not covered like the upper left hand corner...you can clearly see that the steel COLUMN was the same color all the way THROUGH..

AND IF THAT STEEL COLUMN were to be melted...WHEN IT COOLED IT WOULD RETURN TO THE SAME COLOR IS WAS BEFORE IT WAS MELTED.

THAT IS SCIENCE! NOT AN OPINION!
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No this is not science it is make believe.

I work offshore on steel ships and rigs and I also have seen plenty of welds and blowtorch cuts.

You are talking absolute rubbish. When metal is welded together it will return to its former color.

When it is cut using a blowtorch it will not, it will be covering in black soot and will take the color of burnt metal, this is because it is burnt, it has been cut using a high temperature flame.

Please speak to a welder about it, as I have just done, he says you are talking crap and I agree with him.
 
Just for posterity, cause I didn't really source my claim.

aftertheweld.jpg


This is a steel railway rail which has just been subjected to thermite welding. Note the white residue.
 
Dazed said:
Okay. I haven't been following this thread very closely, but if you want some reason, hear this: thermite leaves a white residue on steel. Not black.
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Correct. Aluminum oxide. Nicely done.

I might remind you all that not even Steven Jones has really found residue consistent with thermite. His gymnastics, as he attempts to explain sulphur (but no barium) and other trace amounts of minerals such as zinc as proof of a never-before-seen, custom blend of "thermate" are pathetic to behold.

So can we put this to bed already?
 
Dear 28th Kingdom,

Did you know Professor Steven Jones wrote a paper which he believes proves Jesus lived in America with the Amerindians?
 
28th Kingdom said:
Yea...while yer at it...put this in your time capsule and smoke it. THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THERMA/ITE - Einstein!
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28th must be just trying to talk and waste time

Fraud, thy name is 28th

Debunked by your own posts; you are just like Chris take a look at his CT efforts, this is you, you are just like Chris http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57426

You are funny, thermite did it, and if you have an education it has failed you.
 
28th Kingdom said:
Yea...while yer at it...put this in your time capsule and smoke it. THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THERMA/ITE - Einstein!
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There go the goalposts again! Man they sure can move!

Oh, yeah, I know you would be hurt if I didn't say it.

What a macaroon!
 
28th Kingdom said:
Yea...while yer at it...put this in your time capsule and smoke it. THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THERMA/ITE - Einstein!
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But none that leave black residue.

Your conduct in the past hour has been extremely poor, 28th Kingdom. Either improve the level of discourse, or please get lost.
 
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