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This is the thread that may very well change the way you look at 9/11 FOREVER!

chillzero said:
There's a P in it.... but no - an S.
1976 is about right.
I don't know his opinion about Alex Jones, I haven't seen him for a few years - pre-911. That's why I don't know if he still lives up here.
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We're pretty sure that 28K is the latest sock puppet of PDoherty76, who started some typically infuriating threads here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66208
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66267
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66353
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66521
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66527
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66653
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66309

Before being suspended and then banned for trying to circumvent his suspension. He's been banned several times since for returning as various sock puppets:

docker:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66906
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66977

jesscarabbit:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67412

Laith:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67181

stundie:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69198
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69197

shades_of_grey:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64252

With each sock he attempts a new personality, but it usually fades and gets muddled over time.

He also hangs out as pdoherty76 on the loose change forums (when they're working) and the conspiracy smasher blog.

It's commonly supposed that his name is Paul Doherty and he lives in Manchester. I've often wondered if PDoherty76 refers to Pete Doherty. He claims to have studied for a Masters is Mathematical Physics although this hasn't been proven either way.

People like calling him PD'oh. He hates that.

There's a picture circulating that is supposed to be of him, but he denies it. It's featured in this post:

Pardalis said:
This is a conspiracy guy, and he's not cool.
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That's all we know about him. Have a look at some of his sock threads, do they seem familiar?
 
And to anyone who questions..what I'm doing on a stupid internet forum..instead of going out and trying to get into science journals and such...well, just think of this as a case study... I can't believe I have been so fortune as to stumble upon a community of people who are such diehard skeptics of the PET. See, if I can find out what it would take to awaken one of you...than I can get feedback and see exactly what it will take to awaken even the most incredulous individuals.
 
28th Kingdom said:
Am I in the twilight zone? Hahahaha...No crap the parent material and slag are different substances....AND NO CRAP - iron oxide is the SAME crap that's in therma/ite

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermite
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You'll be telling us next that cutting torches *were* used in the basement in order to provide a plausible explanation to cover up the iron oxide from the thermite devices!
 
Architect said:
Right, let's see:

1. Fire as a Failure Mechanism

28th drew attention to the NISt report sections highlighting the combined action of the fire, damage to insulation, and loss of structural elements before going on to note:



I then responded:



I then referred to two detailed analyses carried out by Sheffield and Edinburgh Universities regarding the fire failure mechanism:



2. Vertical Collapse Mechanism

28th has also questioned the vertical collapse pattern and failure of the lower structure to deflect the upper portion:




It would have been tempting to throw Frank Greening's calculations at him, but instead I simplified matters:



You will also recall 28th's comments regarding the vertical collapse of the core columns:



To which I pointed out:




So, just to recap 28th: when are you going to respond to any of these points?
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QFE
 
You have access to an ENTIRE world of pictures and images...and you can't find ONE pic where the molten slag is a completely different color than the metal from which it came?

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2271/thermiteut7.jpg

You will have to do better than that first pic...please, that was utterly pathetic.

Look at that column. As an analogy: It looks like candle wax was dripped onto the column and cooled...it DOESN'T look like the column was TURNED into a candle i.e. the edges are visually melted down...the molten metal IS SITTING on top of straight...unaffected edges...those edges aren't melted away.
 
maccy said:
We're pretty sure that 28K is the latest sock puppet of PDoherty76, who started some typically infuriating threads here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66208
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66267
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66353
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66521
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66527
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66653
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66309

Before being suspended and then banned for trying to circumvent his suspension. He's been banned several times since for returning as various sock puppets:

docker:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66906
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66977

jesscarabbit:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67412

Laith:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67181

stundie:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69198
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69197

shades_of_grey:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64252

With each sock he attempts a new personality, but it usually fades and gets muddled over time.

He also hangs out as pdoherty76 on the loose change forums (when they're working) and the conspiracy smasher blog.

It's commonly supposed that his name is Paul Doherty and he lives in Manchester. I've often wondered if PDoherty76 refers to Pete Doherty. He claims to have studied for a Masters is Mathematical Physics although this hasn't been proven either way.

People like calling him PD'oh. He hates that.

There's a picture circulating that is supposed to be of him, but he denies it. It's featured in this post:



That's all we know about him. Have a look at some of his sock threads, do they seem familiar?
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Yeah, thanks for the info, and I'll double check some of the socks. I suspected that was the consensus. I am still curious, and I have a similar theory about Peter Doherty. What kind of self respecting (giggle) CTist would even hint at their true identity on the internet - owned and montored so closely by 'The Man'?
I am hoping he will let me know though, if it's not who I think.
 
I will admit...that there appears to be an enormous amount of intelligent people on here...but in a very idiot savant kind of way. No offense...but you seem like near geniuses when it comes to a particular area....if you only had the common sense and logic to go with that...you'd really be somewhere.
 
28th Kingdom said:
And to anyone who questions..what I'm doing on a stupid internet forum..instead of going out and trying to get into science journals and such...well, just think of this as a case study... I can't believe I have been so fortune as to stumble upon a community of people who are such diehard skeptics of the PET. See, if I can find out what it would take to awaken one of you...than I can get feedback and see exactly what it will take to awaken even the most incredulous individuals.
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Actually, I'm making notes for a Psychology Today article, "A pathological denial syndrome among 9/11 Deniers/Truthers and Conspiracy Theorists".

You and your chum Christophera are pure research gold.

That's a joke, BTW.

For post 666, coincidence or what?
 
Firestone said:
I don't know much about the American legal system, but in my country, Belgium, the one thing you MUST have in order to convict someone is EVIDENCE!
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Before someone starts thinking undeserved bad things about the US legal system, I've served on three criminal juries in my life and motive was not mentioned in any of them.
 
28th Kingdom said:
You have access to an ENTIRE world of pictures and images...and you can't find ONE pic where the molten slag is a completely different color than the metal from which it came?
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Personally I don't need pictures. I've seen ten of thousands of torch cuts with my own eyes. Your a fake, a very poor fake.

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2271/thermiteut7.jpg

28th Kingdom said:
You will have to do better than that first pic...please, that was utterly pathetic.
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You are pathetic.

28th Kingdom said:
Look at that column. As an analogy: It looks like candle wax was dripped onto the column and cooled...it DOESN'T look like the column was TURNED into a candle i.e. the edges are visually melted down...the molten metal IS SITTING on top of straight...unaffected edges...those edges aren't melted away.
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Hahahahahaha! What a dork. Get off mommy's couch and find a job you loser!
 
With the proviso that I'm definitely not a metalworking expert:

Cutting%20Torch%202.jpg


Is that something of the order of which you were looking for?
 
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28K I say you are another pdoherty sock playing pathetic games.

Prove me wrong. Tell us about yourself.
 
Swing and a miss!

The products are aluminium oxide, free elemental iron, and a large amount of heat
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So there wouldn't be any iron oxide after the thermite was burned, right?


28th Kingdom said:
Am I in the twilight zone? Hahahaha...No crap the parent material and slag are different substances....AND NO CRAP - iron oxide is the SAME crap that's in therma/ite

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermite
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And I still say that this isn't a picture of a black CAT. NO1 can post proof to me that this is a CAT of the COLOUR BLACK!

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Clearly it came in a BOX for a CABLE Reciever. Like as in GOLDEN Retriever, or a BOXER, therefore it must be a DOG. It's skientifical! Even though I don't acknowledge DOG OWNERS!
 
28th Kingdom said:
And to anyone who questions..what I'm doing on a stupid internet forum..instead of going out and trying to get into science journals and such...well, just think of this as a case study... I can't believe I have been so fortune as to stumble upon a community of people who are such diehard skeptics of the PET. See, if I can find out what it would take to awaken one of you...than I can get feedback and see exactly what it will take to awaken even the most incredulous individuals.
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Why don't you ever get bored of this? It's bizarre that you want to keep signing up to the forum to present the same arguments over and over again as if it will change anything. You're not a compelling speaker because you:

  1. Have no real evidence.
  2. Are not an expert in the field.
  3. Are unable to get your facts straight.
  4. Have now been banned so many times, you lack any credibility.

So, what makes you come back? Sure, I suppose you provide entertainment. But, what do you get out of it?
 
I have only been an observer of these threads, as others have thoroughly kicked the ass of absolutely every detail the CTers have thrown out. But as I read through this one, 28th Kingdom, I couldn't help but think of you as the Black Night of CT - you keep getting your limbs cut off, but continue to try and bite the ankles of those who are chopping you up. You also seem to have run out of limbs at this point.

Carry on.
 
Starrman said:
I have only been an observer of these threads, as others have thoroughly kicked the ass of absolutely every detail the CTers have thrown out. But as I read through this one, 28th Kingdom, I couldn't help but think of you as the Black Night of CT - you keep getting your limbs cut off, but continue to try and bite the ankles of those who are chopping you up. You also seem to have run out of limbs at this point.

Carry on.
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[Monty Python]
No, it's only a flesh wound! He's had worse!

Ok, we'll call it a draw!

[/Monty Python]
 
mattlodder said:
With the proviso that I'm definitely not a metalworking expert:

http://fsae.berkeley.edu/pix/chassis work 9-2005/Cutting Torch 2.jpg

Is that something of the order of which you were looking for?
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Come on man...please cut out the charades. I am presenting clear visual evidence for my claims...and none of you can even present anything that even begins to approach something that would back up what your saying?

BTW, if I said that I'm a nuclear physicist would that change your opinions about what I have been saying?
 
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