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This is the thread that may very well change the way you look at 9/11 FOREVER!

28th Kingdom said:
You know what this is like? It's like watching the Zapruder film...and I'm like, "Kennedy was shot in the head." And, you are all like, "Um, no..are you crazy." I'm like...what are you talking about it...it's as clear as day...and you're like, "Um, no...the government said...he was actually shot in the side...which suddenly raised his blood pressure to a boiling point...which in turn caused a spontaneous acute aneurysm unlike the world had ever seen."

Cooool Conspiracy Theory Guys. ;)
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Totally irrelevant analogy. What you are saying is not obvious, it is just misinformed.

You cn't answer the facts, so you are just resorting to rhetoric.
 
I just realised something lol

Wasn't Crystal Palace a glass over steel structure - That burned to the ground in 1936?
 
28th.

You know what this is like? It's like watching the Zapruder film...and I'm like, "Kennedy was shot in the head." And, you are all like, "Um, no..are you crazy." I'm like...what are you talking about it...it's as clear as day...and you're like, "Um, no...the government said...he was actually shot in the side...which suddenly raised his blood pressure to a boiling point...which in turn caused a spontaneous acute aneurysm unlike the world had ever seen."
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No.

That would imply denial of the event all together. We accept WTC7 fell. It is how and why the building fell that we disagree on.

If you're still bringing up the "pull-it" part I think you should just hang your head and walk away before you get taken to school again, k?
 
maccy said:
Totally irrelevant analogy. What you are saying is not obvious, it is just misinformed.

You cn't answer the facts, so you are just resorting to rhetoric.
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Actually, if you can point me to one person or report who even remotely tries to explain what happened to the core steel columns in WTC 1 & 2...I will admit that I am a fool. That's all you people have to do. Come on, there's like 50 of you out there. That will close the case for good.

I hate to rain on your parade(s) but steel-structured skyscrapers don't just crumble to the ground because a fire plus/minus some minor EXTERIOR damage. Where's the critical-thinking when you need it. Doh!

And, just in case I forget...I love all of you beautiful people.
 
28th Kingdom said:
Cooool Conspiracy Theory Guys. ;)
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No there is nothing cooooool about 911 conspiracy guys, it is not clever, it is not funny and it is nothing to be proud of. It is disrespectful.

It is taking selective facts, distorting the truth and trying to squeeze then into a parallel way of thinking whereby innocent people are charged with mass murder.

No my friend this is not cool.
 
28th Kingdom said:
Cooool Conspiracy Theory Guys. ;)
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Since you've been wrong about every single point, perhaps this would be a good time to regroup and come back with specific questions about the material we've referred you to.

Until then, good bye and good luck.
 
28th Kingdom said:
Actually, if you can point me to one person or report who even remotely tries to explain what happened to the core steel columns in WTC 1 & 2...I will admit that I am a fool.
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NIST NCSTAR 1-6, section 9.3.3

There you go. No need to admit that you're a fool. You're just uninformed. Please stay away from the CT sites until you've read the relevant literature produced by the investigators.

Okay, now I'm really gone.
 
28th:

Did you honestly expect to come onto a Forum, where they have been posting for years on this topic, and act like the all knowing monk who is going to show everyone "The Way" to the truth?

You come here and right off the bat dismiss expert opinion. That was the first red flag. You then try to push the ever so old and false idea that the USG and NIST and other investigative bodies believe that the WTCs were brought down SOLELY by fire. That was the second red flag.

You then choose to ignore any, and all posts that try to show you the err of your ways by providing links and papers that analyze all of the data, and instead re-refer us to old videos, and quotes from a fireman who didnt find a computer or a phone or a desk in his search.

Ok, just so you will either move on or move out, please entertain those who have, for the same reasons, given you the desired response to your first question, and move on to Phase #2 of this show.

TAM
 
28th Kingdom said:
Actually, if you can point me to one person or report who even remotely tries to explain what happened to the core steel columns in WTC 1 & 2...I will admit that I am a fool. That's all you people have to do. Come on, there's like 50 of you out there. That will close the case for good.
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Will this do? Or are your goalposts self-propelled?

28th Kingdom said:
I hate to rain on your parade(s) but steel-structured skyscrapers don't just crumble to the ground because a fire plus/minus some minor EXTERIOR damage. Where's the critical-thinking when you need it. Doh!
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Certainly not in your backyard. Here's some pictures of that allegedly "minor exterior" damage.

I love all the beautiful people too, man, but some of the things they say are, like, so negative.
 
28th Kingdom said:
These surely are interesting videos, please check them out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVkYCIaxgu0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT95sx-8jOQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRHluIkUycA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9Wrnj8IBOI

Joe Casaliggi, NYC firefighter: "You have two 110-story office buildings. You don't find a desk, you don't find a chair, you don't find a telephone, a computer. The biggest piece of a telephone I found was half of the keypad, and it was about this big. The building collapsed to dust."
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Are you the young propaganda NAZI like youth guard pushing the party line?

You seem possessed by the truth movement. Have you been brainwashed with talk and no facts?
 
28th Kingdom said:
Actually, if you can point me to one person or report who even remotely tries to explain what happened to the core steel columns in WTC 1 & 2...I will admit that I am a fool. That's all you people have to do. Come on, there's like 50 of you out there. That will close the case for good.

I hate to rain on your parade(s) but steel-structured skyscrapers don't just crumble to the ground because a fire plus/minus some minor EXTERIOR damage. Where's the critical-thinking when you need it. Doh!

And, just in case I forget...I love all of you beautiful people.
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So the Planes punching through the buildings are "minor exterior" damage?

Also, where is the info on all of the seismographs that picked up the vibrations of the explosives?
 
Big Les said:
I'll take a "P" please Bob.
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Ya I have been thinking it is a sock for PDoh for a while now. Same MO, comes in acting all civil, beyond the norm, vague on the details, avoiding any attempt to bring in the science.

We will see.

TAM
 
28th Kingdom said:
I hate to rain on your parade(s) but steel-structured skyscrapers don't just crumble to the ground because a fire plus/minus some minor EXTERIOR damage. Where's the critical-thinking when you need it. Doh!

So do you have proof or a list of experts saying so?

I will not be waiting because you will never have either.

I have proof of two buildings who fell after an aircraft impact and a big giant fire. WTC1 and 2. Some of us saw it live on TV. No CD sounds, just fell from fire.

Go ask a fire man if he thinks an impact equal to one ton of TNT, and 10,000 gallons of fuel, in a office building to start the fire, would be a good building to stand next to?

Building will fall if we do not fight the fires. This is why we build them to withstand fires for so many hours, so people can get out before they fail. If we can fight the fires and put them out we may have a structure that stands.

Many times these buildings are too weak to stay in service. Can you the great one who said this would be the mother of all threads find some examples?
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T.A.M. said:
Ya I have been thinking it is a sock for PDoh for a while now. Same MO, comes in acting all civil, beyond the norm, vague on the details, avoiding any attempt to bring in the science.

We will see.

TAM
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Actually, looking around at all the other threads, it looks like the forum has been invade by a group of CTers just messing around.
 
So here it is, almost two hours after my last post where I offered to play his orignial game by his rules, and he still hasn't taken me up on it? All we're getting is more of the old "pull it!" BS? Oh, and the old standby, "You're the CTist! No you are!"

Aren't you the one who implied he had some evidence that we obviously weren't "privy" to?

28th Kingdom said:
Of course, I am working under the false presumption that every one here has been privy to the same evidence that I have. See, I just assume everyone has seen all the video, and audio footage.
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Ah, yes, you were. So why haven't you posted any of that? Why is everything you posted the same old same old? Or is it possible that people here have seen just about everything, and have honestly concluded that the CD hypothesis is full of crap?

Do you have anything other than the same old crap?
 
beachnut said:
Actually, looking around at all the other threads, it looks like the forum has been invade by a group of CTers just messing around.
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Well you know we are getting somewhere when they feel compelled to come over here and argue.

That or noone else will listen to them...a sadder comment, in fact, for us and them.

TAM:)
 
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