This is the thread that may very well change the way you look at 9/11 FOREVER!
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If there was thermite and explosives in the basement, why don't the collapses start there?
If the thermite/explosives are triggered a floor at a time, all the way down to the bottom floor, why bother doing anything with the basement?
Reports of explosions in the basement say they occurred before the plane hit, how the towere didn't collapse until an hour or and hour and a half later?
What evidence is there for thermite anywhere in the building?
If the thermite/explosives are triggered a floor at a time, all the way down to the bottom floor, why bother doing anything with the basement?
Reports of explosions in the basement say they occurred before the plane hit, how the towere didn't collapse until an hour or and hour and a half later?
What evidence is there for thermite anywhere in the building?
But then, IF it would be thermite, how can it cutting away one column at one corner, collapse the entire building?
Arkan_Wolfshade
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Grow up.
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Have you received many PMs yet 28th?
I know this is hard for you to understand but lunging from silly theory to another does nothing for your street cred.
Let me get this straight again. This is your big theory now.
Thermite was used, lots and lots of termite, so much in fact that it produced its own oxygen underground and burnt for weeks and weeks after it had been used to demolition the towers.
So what you are saying now is that strategically placed thermite/ate was put in place before 911, because the preps knew that slamming a plane into it and the fires were not enough to cause a collapse. This had all been worked out before hand, I take it.
See this is the issue, if those that planned it all know that planes and fires were not enough to bring down the Towers, before hand, then why as the scientific world not figured it out five years afterwards?
If it is so blatantly obvious that the Towers were not going to collapse after the planes hit them and caused massive fires, then why did they go ahead with such a stupid plan? A plan that was so blatantly obviously flawed, because they knew in advance the Towers were never going to collapse, yet the did it. They went ahead with a blatantly stupid plan. Why?
Why risk everything by being caught out straight away. Do you not see how silly it is?
`Ok we are going to slam planes into the Towers and collapse them. The problem is that planes and fires are not enough to bring down the towers, so we are going to pack shed loads of explosives in them also.´
´But if we know that planes and fires are not enough to bring down the Towers, surely everybody else will´
´Hopefully everybody will miss that one´
I mean Bush was only in office for 8 months, yet during that time the perps figured it all out, that being that planes and fires would not collapse the Towers. They must have had a theory; they must have had some calculations to work off. They must have been pretty accurate calculations to figure out exactly where to place the Thermite, where the planes would hit and where the fires would be. They would have had to figure all this out in 8 months, yet five years later...............zip from the scientific world.
Welcome back UK dave.
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The therma/ite was probably just placed on one column...that was located probably a block or so just north from the WTC 2 Tower. Of course, I'm just guessing here...but according to my calculations...the therma/ite definitely had to be used at a great distance...in order to preserve the fundamental components structure mass at qualitative intervals ... or something to that effect.
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These explosions were around the time of the plane impacts right?
So imagine the thermite cuts the steel in the basement. Then the explosives go off.
Why didn't the building collapse at the moment the explosives went off?
The CT guy uses thermite, I would use RDX, the terrorist used box cutters and airplanes.
Darn, the terrrorist not knowingly brought down the towers, I know RDX could bring down the towers,
Why do the CT guys always fail to come up with a good idea, thermite could work, but it would be messy and very obvious!
CT guys 0
Terrorist 2
Real people 100%
Cheers State'o
The suspension was harsh but fair...or fair but harsh...either way i learned my lesson and wont call anyone a *********** or suggest that their mother performed ******* with a large ******* while singing ******** while simultaneously ********* the cat during a ********* including the curtains.
Now.28k...... wtf should i even care that you exist?
The suspension was harsh but fair...or fair but harsh...either way i learned my lesson and wont call anyone a *********** or suggest that their mother performed ******* with a large ******* while singing ******** while simultaneously ********* the cat during a ********* including the curtains.
Now.28k...... wtf should i even care that you exist?
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Seriously, do you just make this stuff up as you go along? Let's see all your calculations.
I think my head is going to explode (no need for thermite either).
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...that I can determine what this is just from a photograph?
...that I know so much more than any stinking experts?
...that I'm still a maroon?
What is it I'm supposed to see? Your analysis suffers from one fatal flaw that you refuse to acknowledge. This liquid could be anything. I don't know what it is, you most certainly don't, and unless you were there to catch a sample and submit it to some sort of analysis, this is all speculation. Some people, having much more education, experience, and intelligence than either you or I will ever possess have made some educated guesses, but they don't know for certain. Unlike you, they are willing to admit that.
Your thermite/thermate stuff is total nonsense. You don't have the expertise or education to be spouting off on this, and every time you post something more on this, that becomes even more clear.
Don't go away mad. Just go away.
28K
What are you hoping to acheive by all of this? The world isn't going to change one bit unless:
1. scientists, the media and politicians in the US successfully push for new inquiry, which vindicates your theory and prosecutes those responsible; or
2. you, and people like, you convince so many people in the US that it's an inside job that there's a spontaneous uprising against the evil government.
Given that you can't even agree amongst yourselves about the thermite theory, I think that number 2 is extremely unlikely. Number one would mean actually persuading some people with influence, rather than arguing the toss on an internet forum, I've already suggested a few places to start.
I don't think you'll achieve either of these things, either on your own or as part of a movement.
Conclusion: you are utterly insignificant, you don't matter.
What are you hoping to acheive by all of this? The world isn't going to change one bit unless:
1. scientists, the media and politicians in the US successfully push for new inquiry, which vindicates your theory and prosecutes those responsible; or
2. you, and people like, you convince so many people in the US that it's an inside job that there's a spontaneous uprising against the evil government.
Given that you can't even agree amongst yourselves about the thermite theory, I think that number 2 is extremely unlikely. Number one would mean actually persuading some people with influence, rather than arguing the toss on an internet forum, I've already suggested a few places to start.
I don't think you'll achieve either of these things, either on your own or as part of a movement.
Conclusion: you are utterly insignificant, you don't matter.
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Yea that's it. We don't want to over analyse or anything.
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Please..yall...stop referring to NIST...as the SCIENTIFIC WORLD! The NIST is government owned and operated...geez, just go with me on this..if the government did have involvement...do you really think they would just incriminate themselves by releasing a report that implied there were explosives in the buildings? Seriously now...
Fact is...the government decided to DESTROY KEY EVIDENCE AT ONE OF THE LARGEST CRIME SCENES IN THE HISTORY OF THE US! DESTROYING evidence is a CRIME NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT! What's the reason the government gave as to why they destroyed the evidence? FOR NATIONAL SECURITY PURPOSES. That's the excuse they always hide behind...regardless, if it makes absolutely NO SENSE! Are you starting to see it now?
Do you see the effect that this New Pearl Harbor has had on the psyche of Americans? THEY STOPPED THINKING...their common logic and reason have been completely blocked by FEAR! THEY NEVER QUESTION THE GOVERNMENTS ACTIONS NOW....regardless of how absurd they are....why? Because they are our protectors. HAHAHAHAHAHA. Um...the call is coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE!
The government TOLD US Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were responsible...SO WHY THEN...do we bomb Afghanistan for two weeks...and then invade IRAQ before CATCHING THE CRIMINALS WHO ATTACKED US? I remember thinking....what the hell are we doing...this makes absolutely NO SENSE...and this was before I awoke to the truth of 9/11. Looking back...I can clearly see what was happening. And, it's all laid out in the PNAC.
Fact is...the government decided to DESTROY KEY EVIDENCE AT ONE OF THE LARGEST CRIME SCENES IN THE HISTORY OF THE US! DESTROYING evidence is a CRIME NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT! What's the reason the government gave as to why they destroyed the evidence? FOR NATIONAL SECURITY PURPOSES. That's the excuse they always hide behind...regardless, if it makes absolutely NO SENSE! Are you starting to see it now?
Do you see the effect that this New Pearl Harbor has had on the psyche of Americans? THEY STOPPED THINKING...their common logic and reason have been completely blocked by FEAR! THEY NEVER QUESTION THE GOVERNMENTS ACTIONS NOW....regardless of how absurd they are....why? Because they are our protectors. HAHAHAHAHAHA. Um...the call is coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE!
The government TOLD US Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were responsible...SO WHY THEN...do we bomb Afghanistan for two weeks...and then invade IRAQ before CATCHING THE CRIMINALS WHO ATTACKED US? I remember thinking....what the hell are we doing...this makes absolutely NO SENSE...and this was before I awoke to the truth of 9/11. Looking back...I can clearly see what was happening. And, it's all laid out in the PNAC.
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Seriously, why do you keep wasting my precious oxygen?
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He needs it for his thermite.
PNAC did the thermite?
What are you talking about now?
Who is in our jail in Cuba? I think we gathered up all the guys we could find. Do you know where the rest are?
You need to calm down, Iraq is a whole different story, ask the guy who will hang later this month.
PNAC, do they have an army; some one told me Dick's wife took away his shotgun, and will not let him play with others any more.
What is this post, no youTube?
Take your concerns to scientists outside of NIST, outside of America if you want. Take them to Al Jazeera. I gave you a list of people to start with:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2172681#post2172681
are all these people bought off by the Government?
Are you really suggesting that all 200 engineers that worked on the NIST report (130 of whom were on contracts and not directly employed by NIST) deliberately falsified data to cover up an obvious controlled demolition by the USG and so cover up the murder of nearly 3000 people?
You disgust me.
Luckily without persuading people, you are nothing. You're not persuading anyone that matters.
Your movement is dying. You will change nothing.
Goodbye.
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OK so NIST is compromised
What about every other professional body engaged in construction throughout the world?
Are they compromised too?
Give it up, you have lost. Your paranoid delusional theories are rejected by every other pofessional body engaged in costruction in every country throughout the world.
You have no....NO basis for your beliefs.
You're like the creationist who wants Intelligent Design taught in schools or the oil company shill who wants to avoid carbon tax.... you spin and ....well god knows what else you are doing because whatever it is you aint very good at it.... you have your meme and you have to present it to the world in the face of OVERWHELMING professional opinion to the contrary, but you won't let it go because, basically, it's all you have in your life. Right?
What about every other professional body engaged in construction throughout the world?
Are they compromised too?
Give it up, you have lost. Your paranoid delusional theories are rejected by every other pofessional body engaged in costruction in every country throughout the world.
You have no....NO basis for your beliefs.
You're like the creationist who wants Intelligent Design taught in schools or the oil company shill who wants to avoid carbon tax.... you spin and ....well god knows what else you are doing because whatever it is you aint very good at it.... you have your meme and you have to present it to the world in the face of OVERWHELMING professional opinion to the contrary, but you won't let it go because, basically, it's all you have in your life. Right?
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babazaroni
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Could it be possible that Bush and the neocons decided to use an unfortunate and unplanned incident to achieve their goals in Iraq?
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