This is the thread that may very well change the way you look at 9/11 FOREVER!

[Skibum]

When do you plan on bringing out the part of your arguement that we haven't seen before? Everything you've presented is SSDD.

 

[CurtC]

although there were supposedly 4 plane crashes (involving HUGE commercial airliners) and we have video footage of all four crash sites. WE HAVE NOT seen a SINGLE piece of plane wreckage.

Are you actually Kent Hovind, posting this from prison, or did you just study his debate techniques?

Since we were discussing the WTC fires and you switch the subject, that's a tacit admission that you realize you were completely wrong. I guess we can move on now.

 

[Miss Anthrope]

By the way...if anyone constantly degrades me, harasses me, threatens me or spams up my thread with the same post...I will have no choice but to put them on ignore.

Please, remain civil...because that is how I have conducted myself since I arrived to this site.

Thank you.

Excuse me, but why have you demanded that this entire debate be on YOUR terms?

You might as well put everyone on ignore, because you fail to accept any other explanations but your own. Have you ever conceded a point?

 

[Spindrift]

Get ready for another shocker. I know this is a very famous photo in 9/11 circles...but with our newly acquired knowledge about thermite...and how it turns into molten metal all by itself...this pic has become another smoking gun:

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2271/thermiteut7.jpg

Check out that column. See the nice little angle cut...and that black gook all around it. SCORE !!

So your imaginary directional thermite now not only cuts horizontally but at an angle as well?

I don't think so.

Kick save and a beauty!

 

[Dave_46]

I'll make life easy for you, 28th:

http://fire-research.group.shef.ac.uk/Downloads/SC_Baltimore.pdf


And I tell you what, here's ANOTHER one which actually has criticism of some of NIST findings and says the fire would have been enough on it's own. By one of the best universities in the UK and everything!!!! Tell me where you think they made the mistake:

http://www.era.lib.ed.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/1842/1216/1/WTCpaper.pdf

Hey, that second reference talks about the tests on the Cardington steel frame building. I witnessed at least one of those when I worked at BRE.

Dave

 

[HyJinX]

Get ready for another shocker. I know this is a very famous photo in 9/11 circles...but with our newly acquired knowledge about thermite...and how it turns into molten metal all by itself...this pic has become another smoking gun:

Check out that column. See the nice little angle cut...and that black gook all around it. SCORE !!

The shocker is that you didn't consider WHEN this column was cut. Isn't it true that it may have been cut by the clean-up crew and not by thermite? The clean-up crew was at the site and had the means to cut this column...we call this irrefutable evidence. Thermite may or may not have been present at the site...we call this "what if" evidence.

 

[Miss Anthrope]

Get ready for another shocker. I know this is a very famous photo in 9/11 circles...but with our newly acquired knowledge about thermite...and how it turns into molten metal all by itself...this pic has become another smoking gun:

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2271/thermiteut7.jpg

Check out that column. See the nice little angle cut...and that black gook all around it. SCORE !!

Ok, now I get it. You are most definitely someone here to ridicule CT'ers, right? Here is your "smoking gun" debunked in all it's glory:

http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm

 

[~enigma~]

Wow guys...I just had a pretty weird thing happen. I was just thinking...and I realized, that although there were supposedly 4 plane crashes (involving HUGE commercial airliners) and we have video footage of all four crash sites. WE HAVE NOT seen a SINGLE piece of plane wreckage. Wow, that is beyond bizarre. I never even thought about it...but I remember seeing a documentary where they have footage of the Flight 93 site...and the reporter on the scene says it's just a big hole...he doesn't see any wreckage...and then of course, the well documented Pentagon tapes...where there is NO plane wreckage...and then the two towers...where we probably have the best view...and I MEAN we don't see a LICK of plane wreckage anywhere...That IS BEYOND strange.

Please, don't get sidetracked with this topic...I just wanted to share.

When will this guy wake up?

 

[FramerDave]

Get ready for another shocker. I know this is a very famous photo in 9/11 circles...but with our newly acquired knowledge about thermite...and how it turns into molten metal all by itself...this pic has become another smoking gun:

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2271/thermiteut7.jpg

Check out that column. See the nice little angle cut...and that black gook all around it. SCORE !!

Okey dokey, since you refuse to show us any of the shaped thermite devices you mentioned, and I asked you for repeatedly and ever so politely...

What proof do you have that that beam was cut by thermite? Can you show us a picture of another beam, not from 9/11, that was cut by thermite for comparison? And perhaps just to rule it out completely, a beam that was cut with something like an oxy-acetelene torch or similar?

 

[Architect]

Hey, that second reference talks about the tests on the Cardington steel frame building. I witnessed at least one of those when I worked at BRE.

Dave

You government plant you....I'l bet you're from.......THE BBA (drum roll, sinister music).



Do they still exist? I haven't seen an Agrement Certificate in AGES...

 

[~enigma~]

By the way...if anyone constantly degrades me, harasses me, threatens me or spams up my thread with the same post...I will have no choice but to put them on ignore.

Please, remain civil...because that is how I have conducted myself since I arrived to this site.

Thank you.

Nobody is spamming this thread except you. Now answer Dave about the shaped charges and answer Architect about the fires. or are you ignoring them because you can't answer them? That's my guess so go ahead and prove me wrong.

 

[beachnut]

By the way...if anyone constantly degrades me, harasses me, threatens me or spams up my thread with the same post...I will have no choice but to put them on ignore.

Please, remain civil...because that is how I have conducted myself since I arrived to this site.

Thank you.

Did you just wake up from a coma? This is all a redo, already done, you are late. You are already wrong as you announce what you have. Good job.

All the ideas you propose are old. You even post proof you are wrong, you claim a cut steel beam during cleanup is proof of thermite. Then you say thermite turns to metal, wow, it is metal and metal oxides you dolt!

Sorry but FeOxAl is metal with some oxygen. Thermite, great one, is iron rust and al powered, it all has to be in a powered form. You should look up your great idea before you use it as the PNAC clean up for the NWO.

You tell us your idea and use thermite which will not do what you want it to do. So you are totally wrong out of the box.

 

[chacal]

You must have glanced over some of my post, because I showed, why scientifically, it's impossible for any fire burning in the WTC 2 to have heated aluminum to a point where it had a red glow. Read the NIST part of my post, where NIST even admits...that typical molten aluminum is a silvery color....just like the pic and vid included in my post.

Thanks.

Well, yes sorry I haven't read all the posts on this thread. So why would it be impossiple for the fires in the WTC 2 to have melted aluminum to a point where it would glow red hot? The aluminum in the pic I posted is acording to it's source heated redhot with charcoal. And ofcourse there were other materials that could melt in the tower.

 

[28th Kingdom]

Ok, now I get it. You are most definitely someone here to ridicule CT'ers, right? Here is your "smoking gun" debunked in all it's glory:

http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm

Some of the worst "debunking" I've ever seen. More like WISHFUL THINKING. I don't think any of you understand what the word, "debunk" actually means. It means to prove something false. Not to bloviate drivel until you feel better about your side of the argument. That may help you sleep easier at night...but in the grand scope of things...no one has ever TRULY debunked...any of the key facts surrounding 9/11.

BTW...someone send me some pics of plane debris...honestly, I have never seen any...

 

[Dave_46]

You government plant you....I'l bet you're from.......THE BBA (drum roll, sinister music).



Do they still exist? I haven't seen an Agrement Certificate in AGES...

They were still on the main BRE site at Garston when I was retired in July.

(Though they are not part of BRE)

Dave

 

[The Almond]

Some of the worst "debunking" I've ever seen. More like WISHFUL THINKING. I don't think any of you understand what the word, "debunk" actually means. It means to prove something false. Not to bloviate drivel until you feel better about your side of the argument. That may help you sleep easier at night...but in the grand scope of things...no one has ever TRULY debunked...any of the key facts surrounding 9/11.

BTW...someone send me some pics of plane debris...honestly, I have never seen any...

I don't find any substantive objections to the argument made by the website in question. If you are so certain that it is wishful thinking, please post the instances where the website is in error.

 

[Horatius]

Get ready for another shocker. I know this is a very famous photo in 9/11 circles...but with our newly acquired knowledge about thermite...and how it turns into molten metal all by itself...this pic has become another smoking gun:

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2271/thermiteut7.jpg

Check out that column. See the nice little angle cut...and that black gook all around it. SCORE !!

So it's true: CTists really don't have any new evidence, do they?

Time to kitten up!

 

[DavidJames]

BTW...someone send me some pics of plane debris...honestly, I have never seen any...

I believe you are being honest. Thank you. What this shows however, is you haven't spent a lick of time actually doing independent research. All you've done is comb CT sites and repeat their drivel.

Thank you for your honesty.

 

[Miss Anthrope]

Some of the worst "debunking" I've ever seen. More like WISHFUL THINKING. I don't think any of you understand what the word, "debunk" actually means. It means to prove something false. Not to bloviate drivel until you feel better about your side of the argument. That may help you sleep easier at night...but in the grand scope of things...no one has ever TRULY debunked...any of the key facts surrounding 9/11.

BTW...someone send me some pics of plane debris...honestly, I have never seen any...

Tell us what evidence would change your mind, then? I mean, if you are truly a logical and critical thinker, there must be a scenario you would find credibe then?

See, I don't think Santa's real because there is no proof. Flying reindeer and an obese guy fitting down my flu...that would be some evidence. I'd still have to find to ensure the reindeer flew by some mystical power. I'd still need to check out this fat bearded guy. But then I'd be willing to say "It's possible Santa may exist".

So, share with us all what kind of evidence you'd need to believe the towers fell without the absolutely IMPOSSIBLE thermite scenario.

 

[beachnut]

Get ready for another shocker. I know this is a very famous photo in 9/11 circles...but with our newly acquired knowledge about thermite...and how it turns into molten metal all by itself...this pic has become another smoking gun:

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2271/thermiteut7.jpg

Check out that column. See the nice little angle cut...and that black gook all around it. SCORE !!

This proves you are full of BS. This beam was cut during clean up. Good job, you have debunked yourself with your own evidence. You are just a blind follower believing what ever the CT movement lays in front of you.

This is funny, you did just become a new member of the 9/11 cult movement. No facts, no idea on how physics works, no real ability to comprehend anything. You read the conspiracy theory lies, you believe CT lies, you spread CT lies.

You have given a quick review, this is secret, you have wasted all your time repeating the stories and claims already visited. You post the proof of your failure; a clean up column, if you try hard enough you will find a youtube video showing clean up efforts using torches and cutting devices to clean up the WTC, removing the precarious pieces so the do not fall on others.

You seem to be unaware you are wrong. You disrespect all who died on 9/11 by doing shoddy research. Are you always wrong; you do not even know you are in the cult of 9/11 misleading information.