Fire, steel, and 911.

Since we're on the subject of molten steel and I'm sure this will be seen again, how does one tell molten steel from other metals, plastic and such on sight?
 
28th Kingdom said:
No I don't agree...all the other firemen addressed two digit floors...by speaking them properly not by breaking them up into single numbers 7,8 7,8. Plus he said 7 AND 8. DEBUNKED YO BOOTY !! Woo Hoo
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it doesnt matter how others referred to the floors, it matters how HE did, do you have audio/video of this particular firefighter referring to 2 digit floors by speaking the full number?
 
28th Kingdom said:
I know somebody requested proof of molten steel under the rubble at ground zero. Here are some accounts for you:

Molten Metal: Flowing and in Pools

zero: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p6UuGE0plk

THERE's some evidence for you.
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There was no metal melted in the video you posted and all the references you have are from youtube?

So how many jump out of the WTC towers because of what you call "phantom flames" ?

How many people are you disrespecting with your very shallow research, just repeating misleading information because you think you have found what brought down the WTC.

You need to do better than this, you think you are better, why not try to be better. Go back and do some research for a few weeks, or years until you can calculate the stored energy in building, or how materials behave in a fire, or anything that would actually help.
 
Hello everyone,

Just one more thing...if you are gonna dismiss my evidence (VIDEO is one of the most substantial types of evidence you can present in a court of law) simply because it's hosted on Youtube...than please bow out now. If you use Youtube in a derogatory way to dimiss these videos...WHICH WERE NOT CREATED BY YOUTUBE than please refrain from directing stuff at me because you're aren't serious about this debate. What do some of you people think Youtube is? You think it creates original content or something? IT'S simply a video hosting site.

This is a new video I found...that has a bunch of nice things. It addresses EXACT quotes from NIST! WOOOO. Please, take the time to watch it...because now we have some things I want to address about the NIST theory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyK9-58aF1c
 
28th Kingdom said:
Hello everyone,

Just one more thing...if you are gonna dismiss my evidence (VIDEO is one of the most substantial types of evidence you can present in a court of law) simply because it's hosted on Youtube...than please bow out now. If you use Youtube in a derogatory way to dimiss these videos...WHICH WERE NOT CREATED BY YOUTUBE than please refrain from directing stuff at me because you're aren't serious about this debate. What do some of you people think Youtube is? You think it creates original content or something? IT'S simply a video hosting site.
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its simply a video hosting site that cuts the resolution of videos hosted to about 320x240 and compresses the video to the point you cant tell squat from squat

google video is much better, but if these videos are of such vital importance youd think someone could get a website host them at full resolution
 
28th Kingdom said:
This is just a tip for everyone...if you actually want to engage me in conversation....I'm not gonna sit and take your insults. Bell...we're through communicating...so, please refrain from directing posts at me.

I don't name call individuals here...I am very civil and friendly...and I like to make things entertaining at times...but I am NEVER cold and callous like so many of you people.

If you want to continue a dialog with me...you'll have to refrain from using any derogatory words...like troll or idiot or sock etc. If you choose to use these words, than please stop directing posts at me, because I'm NEVER gonna reply to anything you say after you attack me. I've done nothing to any of you...so what motivates such hate and anger?

Don't you know what it says about someone who needs to resort to personally attacks....instead of addressing the issues? Number one...it shows that you are insecure in your stance, and two - it means your viewpoints and arguments are vacuous and without content...thus, you feel the need to be provocative in an attempt to distract the conversation away from the actual topic at hand.
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Take your own advice and drop the personal attacks:
You know what this is like? It's like watching the Zapruder film...and I'm like, "Kennedy was shot in the head." And, you are all like, "Um, no..are you crazy." I'm like...what are you talking about it...it's as clear as day...and you're like, "Um, no...the government said...he was actually shot in the side...which suddenly raised his blood pressure to a boiling point...which in turn caused a spontaneous acute aneurysm unlike the world had ever seen."

Cooool Conspiracy Theory Guys. :wink:
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http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2163445#post2163445
You peeps are like charlatans or something...what the heck, man.
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http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2163515#post2163515
Sitting there and buying a report that was issued by some bias government agency...I mean, really...that's just naive.
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http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2163585#post2163585
I don't understand the game you are trying to play
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http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2163653#post2163653
You know...some of you just keep inventing crap...it's bizarre.
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http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2166104#post2166104
so don't delude yourself into thinking you have.
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http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2166104#post2166104
Unbelievable. Wow...the way you people twist and interrupt stuff is just beyond me.
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http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2167068#post2167068
 
Can you cite Jones' paper in one of the scientific journals in my local university's tech library, so I could look it up? Maybe I'll call his office at BYU and ask him directly...

Oh wait... x2
 
28th Kingdom said:
Hello everyone,

Just one more thing...if you are gonna dismiss my evidence (VIDEO is one of the most substantial types of evidence you can present in a court of law) simply because it's hosted on Youtube...than please bow out now. If you use Youtube in a derogatory way to dimiss these videos...WHICH WERE NOT CREATED BY YOUTUBE than please refrain from directing stuff at me because you're aren't serious about this debate. What do some of you people think Youtube is? You think it creates original content or something? IT'S simply a video hosting site.

This is a new video I found...that has a bunch of nice things. It addresses EXACT quotes from NIST! WOOOO. Please, take the time to watch it...because now we have some things I want to address about the NIST theory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyK9-58aF1c
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good ole dr themite jones

DEBUNKED! Please someone shoot me and put me out of my 28th nervous breakdown!!!!!

Dr Jones is not an expert, he has this political bias and he makes up stuff. Hint: Thermite is not used for CD. He changed his original paper from thermite only to RDX and thermite, not sure how it was done; he can not tell you.

So next, your next great youtube video please! This has been DeBunkEd.
 
28th Kingdom said:
Hello everyone,

Just one more thing...if you are gonna dismiss my evidence (VIDEO is one of the most substantial types of evidence you can present in a court of law) simply because it's hosted on Youtube...than please bow out now.
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Folks aren't dismissing your evidence because it's coming from YouTube, people are dismissing your evidence because it's not evidence. The clip of the two firefighters talking makes no mention of STEEL yet you site that clip as evidence of molten steel at ground zero.
 
28th Kingdom said:
Hora...are you a communist or socialist?
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I know you didn't ask me, but for the record I'm into astronecropyrobeastiality. I can only hope that technology advances enough for me to make sweet love to a flaming animal corpse in outer space before I die.
 
Alt+F4 said:
You claim to have a high IQ but you lack the simple knowledge on how a fire works. The fires at ground zero burned for weeks. What was burning was NOT molten steel but rather combustible materials that were in the buildings (carpets, sofas, all sorts of plastics, etc).
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No...let me show you what's happening...those types of fire (carpets, sofas, all sorts of plastics, etc) need oxygen to burn...which is in short supply under piles of rubble. Sorry hun...You've been OFFICIALLY debunked.
 
28th Kingdom said:
No...let me show you what's happening...those types of fire (carpets, sofas, all sorts of plastics, etc) need oxygen to burn...which is in short supply under piles of rubble. Sorry hun...You've been OFFICIALLY debunked.
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can you debunk Centralia, PA? youd think oxygen would be in short supply there too
 
Thanks for addressing 28th Kingtroll's post guys. I didn't because he was " through communicating" with me. Allthough I didn't feel I was communicating with him, since he obvious didn't take notice of my earlier post regarding the YouTube firefighters cherrypicked quotes.
 
However, the underground fire is still burning, and will continue to do so for the indefinite future. There are no current plans to extinguish the fire, which is consuming an eight-mile seam containing enough coal to fuel it for 250 years.
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Wow, that's almost 300 years of fire if their projection is right. Very interesting article, thanks for the link.
 
28th Kingdom said:
Thanks...you just proved that there wasn't any raging fire shooting down the stairways...Now, all we have are the elevator shafts.
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Strawman.

I never said there were any raging fires inside the stairwells.

This lady has proved there were fires on the 78th floor.

She was fortunate to escape down one stairwell that did not have fires in them.

You do also understand that fires tend to go up don’t you?

When are you going to answer my question?

What type of explosive devise causes molten steel to form weeks after it has gone off?

Incidentally I have yet to read an apology from you for belittling the suffering those who were trapped inside the Towers went through. Now would be a good time as any. Something simple like.

*Yes there were dreadful fires inside the Towers and yes I now appreciate that real people were trapped ,injured and many killed by them.*

Give it a try, you may feel more human afterwards

 
28th Kingdom said:
No...let me show you what's happening...those types of fire (carpets, sofas, all sorts of plastics, etc) need oxygen to burn...which is in short supply under piles of rubble. Sorry hun...You've been OFFICIALLY debunked.
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Edit: What they said above. :)
 
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