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Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

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Big Al said:
I went to Stephen Hawking's school (St. Albans School), and I chatted with him at an Old Boys' reunion while he could still talk.

Whatcha reckon?
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Nah, sorry - Willy and the Chuckles are B and Z-list celebs respectively, whereas Stephen Hawking is a respected scientific figure. By the standards of today's British society, I win hands down :)
 
Architect said:
They're about £650 a day. Architects are about £600. Good structural engineers around £750.
For what it's worth.
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hey that sounds doubleplus good!
i'm off down swanseas maritime quarter tomorrow for a job. i think i'll go for that surveyor malarkey sounds piss-easy that.

do you think they'll accept a picture of a fleflobolite (or whatever) as proof of my qualifications?

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Christophera said:
I am unlicensed in everything I do, so I can't provide evidence of qualifications that you would find acceptable other than images of my equipment while I work. What 9-11 is going to do is show the world that our dependence on "government" verification of ability is a serious mistake and a symptom of our dumbed down state.

All professional status will be subject to public review of performance and nothing will be taken for granted again. That is IF we can continue as a society from our present position of deep ignorance and gullibility.
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Translation: Since I was unable to complete high school, thanks to my own stupidity, I now am an unskilled day laborer, occasionally trusted with a piece of equipment - as long as inspectors aren't around.

One day the uneducated proletariat will rise up against those elitist trained and licensed, educated elite people things...
 
Big Al said:
Chris only does that to fill in between stints as a test pilot, an astronaut or a nuclear reactor engineer.
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hey lay-off the astronauts! i worked as one of them for 60 years in between a bit of welding and giraffe-whispering.

take a look at my equipment...............

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BV
 
bonavada said:
how the f does that work chris? you can get work as a welder, surveyor, draghtsman, and a blaster without any qualifications? i know america is supposed to be the land of the fkn free but not of the free meal ticket.
i mean, what about the poor saps that spent years at university or college sweating over exams for the above? won't they be a tad upset at you nicking their jobs?

you must be raking in the bucks....i'm not sure what "surveyor" means in the american workplace but over here you pay about £500 just to hear one fart.

BTW does your boss know your unqualified?

BV
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Yes, my boss knows I'm unlicensed, but as a licensed land surveyor knows I'm qualified as he's reviewed all my methods, check and proofs. He worked in the old way, directly on the lines. I educated him to the new "random traverse" that is used today with electronic theodolites. He appreciates my attention to details very much that protect his liability. I understand the legal aspects of surveying quite well and do a fair job although we do not do a great deal of official boundary work, filing maps for subdivision and such. Mostly construction certifications or easement disputes.

Yes some are upset I get to do these things. I make about 1/2 the $ of what the certified, licensed individuals get, and I do not work anything like full time. Certainly they have more skills than I have but for what I do, I've got exactly what is needed. I can also pull off 1:30,000 precision traversing, just about as good as the best of the surveyors in bad terrain.

My topographic maps, when I did exclusive manual interpolations were far better than automated. Having done so much manual interpolation my automated maps are often better as I adjust them. My grading plans are the same, occasionally better than some of the best civils. I am an artist that takes time with these things.

I know this because I've worked from so many of the grading plans made by registered, certified individuals. Sometimes they are quite good, (engineers mostly) sometimes, the architects make a MAJOR mess, economic and otherwise.

I haven't done any blasting since 1984 and then I was only the driller, but working closely with the blaster and studying the handbook as well as demolitions texts.

People appreciate my service and it is comprised of much return customers and I've never advertised. Curiously, in these times where freedom is compromised so much by the politics of post 9-11, we are still free to work IF we can find it and that totally depends on the quality you can deliver.

All the welding I've done for the last 20 years has been for myself on equipment or fabrication projects. Prior to that I worked for a contractor on projects where he did not need a certified welder. When he discovered my math/geometry skills he had me mostly laying out difficult projects with certified welders.

It ain't a free meal ticket by any means, particuarly when I have to operate equipment to make ends meet.
 
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Christophera said:
Also, how would I be able to provde such detailed and congruent explanations for the images showing the conrete, rebar, elevator guide rail supports, etc. if I had not seen the documentary?
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Even if you HAD seen this documentary you made up, your explanations are neither detailed nor congruent. Just babble, mostly.

My explanations, descriptions etc. are completely consistent with the raw evidence wheras your and others are not. Is this thread not 200 plus pages? If I was totally without evidence and reason would this be possible?
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Certainly, since you're an obsessive compulsive liar, and our mods have turned into lazy pig's organs.

The very fact that I am here, insistent, day after day consistently saying the same thing about these images and what they show while not one of you can support the FEMA core with competent constrcution drawings or images of the demolition, shows the FEMA lie and confirms the concrete, the documentary and the demolition.
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Wrong. It shows you're obssessive and more than a little stupid, and that we get off watching the retard wet himself daily.

Life is cruel that way.

Which is why you and others keep returning, because what I'm saying/showing simply cannot exist within your unconsciously assimilated paradigm.
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Cannot and did not exist.

So in many ways I have an inherent respect for those of you that keep returning, because unconsciously you/them are asking for me to convince you of the lie and reveal the truth because it is very important to you and your unconscious mind knows it and will not let you rest.[/quote[

LOL!!!!

What a load of feces.

For lack of a better name (I think there is one tho), you are diabled from seeing something that is actaully before your eyes. Your unconscious mind gets the first, original information from your eyes and gives a copy to your conscious mind.
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Actually, signal information is split, and copies arrive almost at the same time in both brain areas. But the unconscious mind can react to information before the conscious mind can interpret it.

The unconscious mind cannot filter anything, btw.

They may not exist now (I'm sure there are copies) but they did and what I show and say proves it indirectly.
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No, it doesn't. These things never existed, Chris. YOU MADE THEM UP. You are the liar.
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bonavada said:
hey lay-off the astronauts! i worked as one of them for 60 years in between a bit of welding and giraffe-whispering.

take a look at my equipment...............

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/8748457c9906ccea0.jpg


BV
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You never flew that. It's a fake. We never went to the moon. Well, I mean, I did, but nobody else did.:p

I love the idea that the Oxford University Press and the Library of Congress are in on this little conspiracy. They delete the entire history of a book just because it contains the dreaded words "concrete core". Those conspirators must have been as busy as fleas on a hedgehog, desperately looking to yank absolutely any publication, broadcast of recording that said "concrete core", because otherwise everyone would ask where the concrete went, because there wouldn't be enough concrete found at the site because of the C4 around the rebar put in place thirty-five years before....


Is it just me, or is this just a little on the not-entirely-sensible side?


I also hope the OUP could spell "Innovation" better than Chris. He's spelt it wrong at least three times.
 
Big Les said:
Nah, sorry - Willy and the Chuckles are B and Z-list celebs respectively, whereas Stephen Hawking is a respected scientific figure. By the standards of today's British society, I win hands down :)
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i saw sid little and eddie large walking past the guildhall in 1978. do i get a crackerjack pencil?

oh oh i nearly forgot......and i went to the same school as harry secombe and the arch fkn bishop of fkn CANTERBURY beat that.

BV
 
bonavada said:
i saw sid little and eddie large walking past the guildhall in 1978. do i get a crackerjack pencil?

oh oh i nearly forgot......and i went to the same school as harry secombe and the arch fkn bishop of fkn CANTERBURY beat that.

BV
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The later Archbishop of Canterbury, Robert Runcie, was practically our school chaplain when he was Bishop of St. Albans.
 
Christophera said:
Yes some are upset I get to do these things. I make about 1/2 the $ of what the certified, licensed individuals get, and I do not work anything like full time. Certainly they have more skills than I have but for what I do, I've got exactly what is needed. I can also pull off 1:30,000 precision traversing, just about as good as the best of the surveyors in bad terrain.

My topographic maps, when I did exclusive manual interpolations were far better than automated. Having done so much manual interpolation my automated maps are often better as I adjust them. My grading plans are the same, occasionally better than some of the best civils. I am an artist that takes time with these things.

I know this because I've worked from so many of the grading plans made by registered, certified individuals. Sometimes they are quite good, (engineers mostly) sometimes, the architects make a MAJOR mess, economic and otherwise.

I haven't done any blasting since 1984 and then I was only the driller, but working closely with the blaster and studying the handbook as well as demolitions texts.

People appreciate my service and it is comprised of much return customers and I've never advertised. Curiously, in these times where freedom is compromised so much by the politics of post 9-11, we are still free to work IF we can find it and that totally depends on the quality you can deliver.

All the welding I've done for the last 20 years has been for myself on equipment or fabrication projects. Prior to that I worked for a contractor on projects where he did not need a certified welder. When he discovered my math/geometry skills he had me mostly laying out difficult projects with certified welders.

It ain't a free meal ticket by any means, particuarly when I have to operate equipment to make ends meet.
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Uh-huh.

So you're actually completely unqualified to discuss construction of skyscrapers, materials, etc. You're a driller, a ditch-digger, and a general crewperson, who occasionally is used under the table as a drafter, so that the contractor in question can save a few hundred bucks.

Heh.

Now we know. Those professionals are shady, but they know when to use and abuse the moron in their crew. Gotta hand it to them.

And now that we have that much information, a few letters to some inspectors in Cali ought to help a bit... Wonder just how interested they'd be in knowing an unlicensed amateur was being used in capacities beyond his means, unofficially?

:D

Don't worry Chris, I won't put you out of a job. Eris knows, you need something to keep you busy; otherwise you might, I don't know... build another website.

THE HORROR! THE HORROR!!

(We all know you'll never actually take action about this silly nonsense...)
 
zaayrdragon said:
Even if you HAD seen this documentary you made up, your explanations are neither detailed nor congruent. Just babble, mostly.

Certainly, since you're an obsessive compulsive liar, and our mods have turned into lazy pig's organs.

Wrong. It shows you're obssessive and more than a little stupid, and that we get off watching the retard wet himself daily.

Life is cruel that way.

Cannot and did not exist.
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Christophera said:
So in many ways I have an inherent respect for those of you that keep returning, because unconsciously you/them are asking for me to convince you of the lie and reveal the truth because it is very important to you and your unconscious mind knows it and will not let you rest.
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zaayrdragon said:
LOL!!!!

What a load of feces.

Actually, signal information is split, and copies arrive almost at the same time in both brain areas. But the unconscious mind can react to information before the conscious mind can interpret it.

The unconscious mind cannot filter anything, btw.

No, it doesn't. These things never existed, Chris. YOU MADE THEM UP. You are the liar.
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Your post shows you are appropriately ignorant of the unconsious mind to perform unconsciously, consistently.

You can prove nothing, particuarly the steel core columns. You have proven that you do not respect the truth as it is evident nor do you respect peoples need to bring it and percieve it.
 
zaayrdragon said:
Uh-huh.
And now that we have that much information, a few letters to some inspectors in Cali ought to help a bit... Wonder just how interested they'd be in knowing an unlicensed amateur was being used in capacities beyond his means, unofficially?
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Curious, the officials know I'm unlicensed and that I stay within my means. I work with a licensed individual who over sees my work, this is all legal. The officials actually appreciate some one who picks up the slack for the cheapos that do not want to do things properly. I provide away for them to get a plan they will afford then the inspectors can hold them to it.

I've been doing this for over 20 years y'know. If there were problems it would not have gone on.

People without raw evidence from the actual scenes of crimes are strictly incompetent in discussion and it is reprehensible that they would advocate unlawful performance by governments or impede those that work for lawful performance WHO DO USE raw evidence reasonably.
 
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