Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

[beachnut]

The original text monger. No evidence of anything.

http://algoxy.com/conc/core.html

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11scenario.html

See, proof of no concrete core.

I love it, you have all the stuff to prove the steel only core exists on your web site.

Thank you

 

[Architect]

Well I went to university with Will Young, AND I've met the Chuckle Brothers. Beat that.

That's unbeatable!

 

[Christophera]

A one time, unregistered post on April 1st. Yep That's an April fools joke if i ever saw one.

Or, sombody very afraid of something but yet still wanting to contribute to the truth/fact finding and doing so but protecting themselves by posting on April fools day knowing people like you would compromise it.

99% of the steel fell immediatly to the bottom of one tower and 100% in the other. How fast the steel fell has no bearing on wether the core columns were elevator rail guides or not Chris. This is a meaningless point of argument. You have to show me proof, such as diagrams and photos of other installations of elevators that show elevator rail guides that big.

Steel core columns WILL NOT FALL (or not like that, unseen). Your point is meaningless.

 

[TellyKNeasuss]

Not being able to find record of it does not mean it does not exist. That goes for the documentary as well. Our society is really messed up.

The documentary "The Construction of the Twin Towers" was broadcast on PBS, channel 28 in Southern California.

The book doesn't exist. The Oxford University Press has confirmed this.

The documentary doesn't exist. PBS had confirmed this

You've made both those up. Just like you made up the 4-foot spacing between the rebar and the "over a hundred".

 

[TellyKNeasuss]

Steel core columns WILL NOT FALL (or not like that, unseen). Your point is meaningless.

Steel has anti-gravity properties!!!

 

[TellyKNeasuss]

You cannot have it both ways, those stresses take time and space to accumulate, and you have yet to show a shattered column end.

Complete nonsense. Stress is caused by the application of a force. When a force is applied, a stress exists.

They were cut as part of the demolition into aproximate 40 foot pieces.

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11scenario.html#anchor1233383

The interior box columns surrounded the concrete core walls and were fastened to it. This was where lateral and torsion load were transferred to the concrete from the steel framework.

spire

Concrete shear wall to left of interior box column, the "spire"

concrete shear wall

But why weren't there 1300 foot "interior box columns" visible? If steel core columns wouldn't be broken during a collapse, why would "interior box columns"? After all, if there was a concrete core as you claim, the "interior box columns" wouldn't be supporting the bulk of the weight of the building, so wouldn't they be less likely to break than would core columns?

salvage cuts on the far ends explosive shear on the near ends.

Sheared Columns

I was referring to your spire picture. You claimed that the "spire" remained because the cutting charges didn't work. In that case, they should still be attached to the columns. So where are they?

 

[Christophera]

The book doesn't exist. The Oxford University Press has confirmed this.

The documentary doesn't exist. PBS had confirmed this

You've made both those up. Just like you made up the 4-foot spacing between the rebar and the "over a hundred".

We've confirmed that Oxford is in on the cover up and PBS as well. They certainly will not be aware of this, ........... don't bother denying. Basically all of America that is wedded to government is in on it. We need to know this is possible and I'm here to tell/show you, and everybody else it is unconscious. You do not know what you are doing.

If you value your life and the lives of your children you will heed what I say and be STRICTLY reasonable. Something this thread shows those involved with this secret keeping cannot do. But, ... it had to be said.

When a 500 foot concrete tube fro the tower core is ignored by you and others, my thoughtless over exaggeration of how many rebars are in a line to make a point about pixels, which is valid, becomes unimportant compared to your virtual hallucination/cogntive failure of ignoring the obivious concrete.

You are doing everythinf you are doing here with no evidence and ignoring evidence absolutely contrary to what you support.

 

[Big Al]

Well I went to university with Will Young, AND I've met the Chuckle Brothers. Beat that.

I went to Stephen Hawking's school (St. Albans School), and I chatted with him at an Old Boys' reunion while he could still talk.

Whatcha reckon?

 

[beachnut]

do you have a mouse in your pocket?

 

[Architect]

We've confirmed that Oxford is in on the cover up and PBS as well. They certainly will not be aware of this, do don't bother. Basically all of America that is wedded to government is in on it. We need to know this is possible and I'm her to tell you it is unconscious.

Erm, what country do you think Oxford University is in?!?

 

[Christophera]

You cannot have it both ways, those stresses take time and space to accumulate, and you have yet to show a shattered column end.

Complete nonsense. Stress is caused by the application of a force. When a force is applied, a stress exists.

I think you forgot something very important for a competent denial.

 

[Big Al]

We've confirmed that Oxford is in on the cover up and PBS as well. They certainly will not be aware of this, do don't bother. Basically all of America that is wedded to government is in on it. We need to know this is possible and I'm her to tell you it is unconscious.

The Oxford University Press isn't any part of corporate America, thank you very much. It's about 40 miles away from me in England. So how come they're in on it, too?

You are doing everythinf you are doing here with no evidence and ignoring evidence absolutely contrary to what you support.

Not like you, then.

Don't you even feel slightly embarrassed that this book and this documentary on which you so heavily rely don't seem to exist? No, you just expect us to believe they existed.

Well, I don't. I think you're lying to try to substantiate an untenable position. There was no documentary. There was no magazine article. There was no book.

 

[TellyKNeasuss]

We've confirmed that Oxford is in on the cover up and PBS as well.

Proof of this? And who is "we"?

When a 500 foot concrete tube fro the tower core is ignored by you and others, my thoughtless over exaggeration of how many rebars are in a line to make a point about pixels, which is valid, becomes unimportant compared to your virtual hallucination/cogntive failure of ignoring the obivious concrete.

What's a "virtual hallucination"?

You are doing everythinf you are doing here with no evidence and ignoring evidence absolutely contrary to what you support.

I don't see that there's anything wrong with ignoring non-existent books and non-existent documentaries.

 

[Christophera]

But why weren't there 1300 foot "interior box columns" visible?

Your brain is failing. This image shows an interior box columns standing. The rest wer all cut like this.

If steel core columns wouldn't be broken during a collapse, why would "interior box columns"? After all, if there was a concrete core as you claim, the "interior box columns" wouldn't be supporting the bulk of the weight of the building, so wouldn't they be less likely to break than would core columns?

Again, your brain is failing cognition. The interior box columns were cut with built in demolition charges. The concrete core, at completion was designed to take only 20% percent of the active load. The interior box columns were cut with Cutting charges built into the floors and so were cut without major visible action associated with cutting steel without very well contained charges.

I was referring to your spire picture. You claimed that the "spire" remained because the cutting charges didn't work. In that case, they should still be attached to the columns. So where are they?

The spire "IS" a column (interior box column) and it is attached to floor beams.

 

[uruk]

Or, sombody very afraid of something but yet still wanting to contribute to the truth/fact finding and doing so but protecting themselves by posting on April fools day knowing people like you would compromise it.

Why would a prominant man with large company be afraid for his life? Why aren't all the people who post websites, supposedly exposing the conspiracy, dropping like flies?
Your reasoning makes no sense.

Steel core columns WILL NOT FALL (or not like that, unseen). Your point is meaningless.

Your argument is meaningless since the vast majority of the steel came down quickly. both internal core columns and box columns. How fast the steel fell has no bearing, or is proof in any way, that the core columns are elevator rail guides.
You are evading. Show me proof or admit your wrong.

 

[bonavada]

I am unlicensed in everything I do, so I can't provide evidence of qualifications...

how the f does that work chris? you can get work as a welder, surveyor, draghtsman, and a blaster without any qualifications? i know america is supposed to be the land of the fkn free but not of the free meal ticket.
i mean, what about the poor saps that spent years at university or college sweating over exams for the above? won't they be a tad upset at you nicking their jobs?

you must be raking in the bucks....i'm not sure what "surveyor" means in the american workplace but over here you pay about £500 just to hear one fart.

BTW does your boss know your unqualified?

BV

 

[uruk]

We've confirmed that Oxford is in on the cover up and PBS as well. They certainly will not be aware of this, ........... don't bother denying. Basically all of America that is wedded to government is in on it. We need to know this is possible and I'm here to tell/show you, and everybody else it is unconscious. You do not know what you are doing.

If you value your life and the lives of your children you will heed what I say and be STRICTLY reasonable. Something this thread shows those involved with this secret keeping cannot do. But, ... it had to be said.

When a 500 foot concrete tube fro the tower core is ignored by you and others, my thoughtless over exaggeration of how many rebars are in a line to make a point about pixels, which is valid, becomes unimportant compared to your virtual hallucination/cogntive failure of ignoring the obivious concrete.

You are doing everythinf you are doing here with no evidence and ignoring evidence absolutely contrary to what you support.

And paranoia rears it's ugly head

 

[Big Al]

you must be raking in the bucks....i'm not sure what "surveyor" means in the american workplace but over here you pay about £500 just to hear one fart.

Chris only does that to fill in between stints as a test pilot, an astronaut or a nuclear reactor engineer.

 

[Architect]

you must be raking in the bucks....i'm not sure what "surveyor" means in the american workplace but over here you pay about £500 just to hear one fart.

They're about £650 a day. Architects are about £600. Good structural engineers around £750.

For what it's worth.

 

[Christophera]

Proof of this? And who is "we"?

I am producing the scan of the Oxford encyclopedia of Technology and Inovation, published in 1992 and you are proving they have no record of it while I am posting an image of a 500 foot tall concrete core to support it (among other images here). You and I are "we" (among others here).

Also, how would I be able to provde such detailed and congruent explanations for the images showing the conrete, rebar, elevator guide rail supports, etc. if I had not seen the documentary? My explanations, descriptions etc. are completely consistent with the raw evidence wheras your and others are not. Is this thread not 200 plus pages? If I was totally without evidence and reason would this be possible?

The very fact that I am here, insistent, day after day consistently saying the same thing about these images and what they show while not one of you can support the FEMA core with competent constrcution drawings or images of the demolition, shows the FEMA lie and confirms the concrete, the documentary and the demolition. Which is why you and others keep returning, because what I'm saying/showing simply cannot exist within your unconsciously assimilated paradigm.

You keep trying to make congruency between what you "think" (or are told, led to believe) and the reality that the world presents (my information). My persistence with real images presents a contradiction or "cognitive dissonance" that is disturbing and your continued posting shows just how disturbing it is.

Those who post. "Let this thread die" or "Don't feed the trolls" are actually working harder than you are to keep the secret, but have less integrity to the value of the truth than you do. So in many ways I have an inherent respect for those of you that keep returning, because unconsciously you/them are asking for me to convince you of the lie and reveal the truth because it is very important to you and your unconscious mind knows it and will not let you rest.

What's a "virtual hallucination"?

For lack of a better name (I think there is one tho), you are diabled from seeing something that is actaully before your eyes. Your unconscious mind gets the first, original information from your eyes and gives a copy to your conscious mind. In this case your unconscious provides a set of things your conscious "feels" (things provided by the unconscious) are reasons to explain what you see. Others voice this as "dust" or some other excuse, type description. It is a mental event similar to a hallucination.

I don't see that there's anything wrong with ignoring non-existent books and non-existent documentaries.

They may not exist now (I'm sure there are copies) but they did and what I show and say proves it indirectly.