Discussion of the Pentagon taxi cab driver's impossible account.

Lyte Trip said:
Chipmunk's hypothetical scenario contradicts Lloyd's claim.

You can make all the excuses for Lloyd you want but the point stands.

His account is impossible.
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You truely do not understand the contents of your first post in this thread, including both the material that you cite in it and "your own" work.
 
Lyte Trip said:
This is great!

You jref'ers are proving my point for me perfectly!

Do you have any other alternative scenarios that help explain how impossible Lloyd's claim is?
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Are you ever going to specifically tell us how the hypothetical scenario contradicts Lloyd's claim?
 
I've been waiting for days. Where is this irrefutable evidence? Or is it that it takes months to cook up nonsense properly?
"We will serve no whine before its time."
Come on, prove us wrong! Don't tell me you'll make my world crumble, just DO IT ALREADY!
 
chipmunk stew said:
It's quite consistent with Mr. England's account. That's the beauty of it.
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Only if you ignore what he says.

He specifically claims the pole was suspended in mid-air and even illustrated it for us.

Hey chimpmunk.....

Why don't you make another one of those cool 3-d models but this time actually have it represent Lloyd's claim?

It would be much appreciated, thanks.
 
Lyte Trip said:
Incorrect.

Only a handful of eyewitnesses mention the light poles at all.

We have 2 of them on record and on video tape admitting they deduced it after the fact.

Only 2 specifically claim they "saw" the light poles hit.....

Wanda Ramey and an "anonymous" military man.

They were either exaggerating or planted witnesses.
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So the center of power of the entire US military complex was in flames, and only TWO PEOPLE turned their attention to the damaged light poles?

Astonishing! You may be onto something!
 
chippy said:
Holy crap! Do you read anything that anyone writes here?

THE SEAT IS DAMAGED. Notice how it is sagging considerably? PLEASE admit that the seat itself has been damaged. I'm not talking about the LEATHER. I'm talking about the SEAT ITSELF. Do you agree that it has been damaged?

And yes, the hood is not damaged. There's a plausible explanation for this given to you by Chipmunk, and you haven't addressed it AT ALL.
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Don't hold your breath, Lyte has demonstrated that he is completely incapable of acknowledging obvious mistakes and errors, even the inconsequential ones.

Which isn't surprising, as he clearly has no knowledge of the subject matter and is very fearful of painting himself in a corner.
 
Lyte Trip said:
You can call it "damage" if you want but it is notable that the severed sharp aluminum pole did not rip the upholtery even though it caused this "damage".
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Do you believe that the passenger seat was built to look as it does in the photos?
Do you believe that the dashboard was built to look as it does in the photos?
Do you believe that the windshield was built to look as it does in the photos?

Do you believe that Lloyde England was indeed driving his taxi with an unbroken winshield before the incident? Or do you think he was driving with the windshield looking as it appears in the photos? Please answer.

Regardless; the main point is the hood is not damaged and this is impossible with a pole that long and heavy that was over the hood as Lloyd explicitely explained.

Period.
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Wrong. The main point is that you have a problem with reality that's so severe it has led you to accuse crime victims of being involved in the crimes. The main point is that you're behaving like a despicable creep whose only argument is "I don't believe it, so it's impossible." Reality says otherwise, Craig.

You have a serious problem. Recognize it. Get help.
 
Lyte Trip said:
He specifically claims the pole was suspended in mid-air and even illustrated it for us.
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That's right! If he were telling the truth, he'd be a MUCH better artist!

Are you going to tell us how any of this is relevant, or are you just going to continue to create the impression that you're a worthless troll?
 
Lyte Trip said:
Since this is my conclusion the logical assumption would be that Lloyd is lying.

Why he would lie I do not know and I do believe there are possible scenarios where he would remain innocent or a victim.

He could be under duress; his life, family, or livelyhood threatened.

Or it's even possible he could be manipulated mentally and not even be aware that his story is untruthful. He exhibits traits of senility which would naturally leave him more vulnerable to mental manipulation.
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True, and this is how the US Gov. did it...

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"OBEY MY DOG!"

:D
 
Lyte Trip said:
Nice breech of the terms of agreement.

Mods?

Chipmunk's hypothetical scenario contradicts Lloyd's claim.

You can make all the excuses for Lloyd you want but the point stands.

His account is impossible.
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Da*n.
My ignore list just keeps growing..
Did you ever consider that driving an auty-mo-beel with a light pole stuck through the window, whilest the other end is flopping around, contacting the ground, might cause you to have to "rassle" the sucker back to a stop?
No, you didn't, because that would be contrary to your self-induced stupidity and cowardice.
welcome to ignore, ijit.
 
Lyte Trip said:
Only if you ignore what he says.

He specifically claims the pole was suspended in mid-air
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No. You "deduced" that:
RUSSELL: So the curved part comes out here
LLOYD: I don't know, I don't know-
RUSSEL: And the base part is out like this? [Gestures up in air]
LLOYD: No, it was down lower, down this way. [Gestures to right and down]. See it's the, it's the car that held it up.
RUSSELL: Okay.
LLOYD: The inside, the interior of the car that held it up.
RUSSELL: The interior blew [still gesturing upwards]
LLOYD: The dashboard held it up.
RUSSELL: Was it resting on the hood or was it up [still gesturing up]
LLOYD: I can't say, I don't know. But it was out here.
RUSSELL: Okay.
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Where was the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom!
 
rwguinn said:
Da*n.
My ignore list just keeps growing..
Did you ever consider that driving an auty-mo-beel with a light pole stuck through the window, whilest the other end is flopping around, contacting the ground, might cause you to have to "rassle" the sucker back to a stop?
No, you didn't, because that would be contrary to your self-induced stupidity and cowardice.
welcome to ignore, ijit.
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Lyte's own vast experience probably doesn't include anything more traumatic than a lost internet connection; otherwise, he'd spend more time in the real world and less chasing fantasies.

He's got no empathy for those who have truly bad things happen to them.
 
aggle-rithm said:
So the center of power of the entire US military complex was in flames, and only TWO PEOPLE turned their attention to the damaged light poles?

Astonishing! You may be onto something!
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You sure are!

This is exactly why they were able to stage it without people noticing.
 
JimBenArm said:
Where was the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom!
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There is nothing new in this evidence other than the wild spin that people like chipmunk are attempting in order to reconcile Lloyd's impossible account.
 
Lyte Trip said:
You sure are!

This is exactly why they were able to stage it without people noticing.
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Okay, Lyte, show us the eyewitness accounts of Lloyde England stopping his car, getting out, savagely smashing his windshield, and placing a 250-lb light pole in it.

Right now. Show us the eyewitnesses who saw that happen.
 
Lyte Trip said:
There is nothing new in this evidence other than the wild spin that people like chipmunk are attempting in order to reconcile Lloyd's impossible account.
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You have presented no evidence.

Chipmunk Stew presented a hypothetical scenario whereby the lightpole could impale the car without touching the hood.

You have reading comprehension problems or are being willfully obtuse.
 
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