Norman Minetta

[stundie]

What's the problem with Lynne meeting Dick at 9:52, then a very few minutes later (remember, Dick was on the phone with W), they head into the POEC? That seems consistent with all accounts. How do you figure that someone is lying?

Because if Lynne logs in at the POEC at 9:52am and Then Dick logs in at 10:00am and goes with him to the POEC, then you have too conflicting accounts with 8 minutes difference. Unless it takes 8 mins to log people in?

Besides there is plenty of evidence to suggest that Cheney was already in the POEC before 10:00, so again...Why is Mineta timeslines wrong....other than the conflicting log times??

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Yep...Thats right ASSUMING!! No evidence to suggest Minetas times are wrong or mistaken!!

Cut the equivocation ********!
Eckolaker said, "For the sake of argument lets assume Mineta was mistaken." I responded directly with, "Since we are assuming Mineta is mistaken..." DO NOT TRY TO CHERRY PICK MY WORDS JACKASS!

Why is it reasonable to suggest he is 30 mins out??

Well, since your acting like a fifth grader, I'll reply in kind: I asked first.

 

[stundie]

Welcome to remedial reading class, Eckolaker. You have some catching up to do.

1) Read the linked and quoted material from the 9/11 Commission report that we've posted here and in the original Mineta thread.

2) Tell us how it fits with Mineta's testimony.

Clear enough? Have at it.

1) Doesn't answer Eckobars question.

2) The thing is, you have still not explained how Minetas testimony doesn't fit in with 9/11 Commission findings other than the PEOC log, which I've already pointed out flaws with.

So grow up with the school tactic of name calling and explain. It should be easy!!

 

[uk_dave]

'Newswithviews' huh?

LMAO

 

[stundie]

Cut the equivocation ********!
Eckolaker said, "For the sake of argument lets assume Mineta was mistaken." I responded directly with, "Since we are assuming Mineta is mistaken..." DO NOT TRY TO CHERRY PICK MY WORDS JACKASS!.

Not cherry picking at your word jackass, I'm arguing the relevant points.

Well, since your acting like a fifth grader, I'll reply in kind: I asked first.

Well actually I asked 1st ages ago, since my 1st post actually.....but all you guys keep telling me is wrong...Again with no proof?? So back to you jackass!!

 

[twinstead]

1) Doesn't answer Eckobars question.

2) The thing is, you have still not explained how Minetas testimony doesn't fit in with 9/11 Commission findings other than the PEOC log, which I've already pointed out flaws with.

And you have still not explained why the vast majority of other evidence and testimony doesn't fit in with Mineta's testimony, nor have you acknowledged that anomalous testimony is a hallmark of any investigation.

 

[stundie]

'Newswithviews' huh?

LMAO

So your not dismiss the evidence....Just the source. Typical in your desperate attempts to dispute the FACTS!!

“U.S. District Judge John W. Bissell in early February threw out the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey's final claims in a longstanding suit against dozens of insurers over coverage of more than $600 million in asbestos abatement costs at the World Trade Center, New York's three major airports and other Port Authority properties.”

So as I said...Not the 1000 building that Gravy is trying to suggest!!

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Not cherry picking at your word jackass, I'm arguing the relevant points.

You intentionally took my words, which were in direct response to Eckolaker's post, and applied them out of context. That is cherry-picking! You are not arguing relevant points, you are committing a form of the logical fallacy of equivocation.

Well actually I asked 1st ages ago, since my 1st post actually.....but all you guys keep telling me is wrong...Again with no proof?? So back to you jackass!!

Prior to responding to my question of, "Why is it so unreasonable that he is/was 30 minutes off? " you had not asked the specific question of, "Why is it reasonable to suggest he is 30 mins out??". Now, answer the question as to why it is unreasonable that Mineta could have been off by 30 minutes. You find it unreasonable; explain why.

 

[stundie]

'Newswithviews' huh?

LMAO

So your not dismiss the evidence UKDave....Just the source??

This is very typical in your desperate attempts to dispute the FACTS!! You can search for other sources if you are not happy with it, but then why do you skeptics ever bother to investigate when you can throw petty attacks on the sources instead.

“U.S. District Judge John W. Bissell in early February threw out the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey's final claims in a longstanding suit against dozens of insurers over coverage of more than $600 million in asbestos abatement costs at the World Trade Center, New York's three major airports and other Port Authority properties.”

So as I said...not 1000 building that Gravy is trying to suggest!!

 

[stundie]

You intentionally took my words, which were in direct response to Eckolaker's post, and applied them out of context. That is cherry-picking! You are not arguing relevant points, you are committing a form of the logical fallacy of equivocation.

Call it what you want, I would answer the other questions but there was no point. Anyway......


Prior to responding to my question of, "Why is it so unreasonable that he is/was 30 minutes off? " you had not asked the specific question of, "Why is it reasonable to suggest he is 30 mins out??". Now, answer the question as to why it is unreasonable that Mineta could have been off by 30 minutes. You find it unreasonable; explain why.[/QUOTE]

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2131326#post2131326

You will see I asked why is Minetas time line is out and 2 pages further, still no answer from you debunkers!!

 

[Gravy]

People, stundie is either a troll or he's got some Christophera-like problems. No one can misrepresent plain facts like he does without doing it deliberately. No one can have such poor reading comprehension yet be able to write grammatically correct sentences. Just look at his comments immediately above:

Asbestos: shown to be false.
WTC losing money: shown to be false.
Lynne Cheney in PEOC at 9:52: shown to be false. He's been shown time and time again that that was the time when she met Dick in the tunnel, according to her records, but he pretends that nothing like that was ever presented to him.

Unless he give some indication that he's making an attempt to read and understand the material we've directed him to, I'll be giving his posts a pass. I think he's just a troll.

 

[uk_dave]

So your not dismiss the evidence....Just the source. Typical in your desperate attempts to dispute the FACTS!!

“U.S. District Judge John W. Bissell in early February threw out the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey's final claims in a longstanding suit against dozens of insurers over coverage of more than $600 million in asbestos abatement costs at the World Trade Center, New York's three major airports and other Port Authority properties.”

So as I said...Not the 1000 building that Gravy is trying to suggest!!

Try again (oh and while you're at it, give some thought to just how much asbestos will be in just those 'three major airports')

 

[stundie]

You intentionally took my words, which were in direct response to Eckolaker's post, and applied them out of context. That is cherry-picking! You are not arguing relevant points, you are committing a form of the logical fallacy of equivocation.


Prior to responding to my question of, "Why is it so unreasonable that he is/was 30 minutes off? " you had not asked the specific question of, "Why is it reasonable to suggest he is 30 mins out??". Now, answer the question as to why it is unreasonable that Mineta could have been off by 30 minutes. You find it unreasonable; explain why.

and before you go on.......

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Originally Posted by Eckolaker
First off, Bush is only guilty of crimes against humanity through association. At no point do I consider him to be a genius playing the part of a moron.

If you have evidence to be able to say this definitively (which you have), then present it.
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You debunkers are trying to deconstruct any point that anyone makes, but I didn't answer BECAUSE....It has nothing to do with the thread!!

 

[stundie]

Try again (oh and while you're at it, give some thought to just how much asbestos will be in just those 'three major airports')

Keep to the thread, which is about Mineta and stop boring me with your lyrics without proof!! lol

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Call it what you want, I would answer the other questions but there was no point. Anyway......

There is a point; that point being your attempt to intentional distort what was said so that you could try to make a grandeos statement, and now that you've been called on it you are trying to weasel out.

Prior to responding to my question of, "Why is it so unreasonable that he is/was 30 minutes off? " you had not asked the specific question of, "Why is it reasonable to suggest he is 30 mins out??". Now, answer the question as to why it is unreasonable that Mineta could have been off by 30 minutes. You find it unreasonable; explain why.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2131326#post2131326

You will see I asked why is Minetas time line is out and 2 pages further, still no answer from you debunkers!!

That post does nothing to answer why you feel that a 30-minute margin of error on Mineta's part is "unreasonable" (you're the one that decided you needed to reply to my post directed at Eckolaker, you substantiate your claim).

 

[uk_dave]

Stundie, here's the deal:

Like it or not, you have been presented with copious amounts of evidence which contradict the wild fantasies of the woowoos, and yet you persist in claiming that the official version is incorrect.

So, I suggest that, since you are so certain of these flaws in the official account of 9/11, you get up off your arse and go and do something about it, because sitting there in front of your computer reading CT sites and right wing christian fundamentalist sites is not going to change the world or stop you from growing old and bitter.

Seize the day!

 

[CurtC]

Because if Lynne logs in at the POEC at 9:52am and Then Dick logs in at 10:00am and goes with him to the POEC, then you have too conflicting accounts with 8 minutes difference. Unless it takes 8 mins to log people in?

Can you provide a cite that shows Lynne went into the POEC at 9:52?

 

[chipmunk stew]

stundie has been banned as a sock puppet of pdoherty, etc.

We saw that coming.

 

[uk_dave]

The boy just can't stay away from us.

I blame Gravy's aftershave.... 'essence of Moloch'

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

At what point does this go from sock-puppetry to criminal harassment?