Bill Clinton was Impeached

Or . . .

Clinton lied, but no one died.

Monica kneeled, but no one keeled.

Hilary screamed, but no soldiers were reamed . . . ;)

With all due respect, the Good and Wise god Yahweh does get a lot more bent out of shape over sexual things than over mass deaths.
 
I don't think a centrist nominates Lonnie Guinear (sp?) to the Supreme Court. :p He was, I'll tend to agree, most effective when he approached things from "the center."

DR
Lani Guinier was nominated to head the Civil Rights division of the Justice Department. So if that's your best evidence against the centrism of Bill Clinton, your brief is thin.

You should have zeroed in on gays in the military. (PS: Avoid welfare reform at all costs.)
 
The Right despised Clinton concoting all sorts of bullsh*t CTs against him.

I myself was no big fan of Clinton. Glad the Senate trial failed because I didn't wan't Gore as President. I hated Gore more.
 
Lani Guinier was nominated to head the Civil Rights division of the Justice Department. So if that's your best evidence against the centrism of Bill Clinton, your brief is thin.
Lani Guinier was revenge for Robert Bork. The accusations of quota queen were intelectually dishonest. She was an outstanding choice and should have in the least been treated fairly. Had she done so I have no reason to believe she wouldn't have been confirmed.

(PS: Avoid welfare reform at all costs.)
Fools rush in.

I'll bite, the Republicans had been pushing for reform but it was always dead in the water until 1994 when Republicans swept into congress. Tell us why welfare reform does not qualify? BTW, in his book, All Too Human, Stephanopoulos points out the many ways Bill Clinton moved to the center in opposition to those on the left in Clinton's administration. Welfare reform was one area that Stephanopoulos mentions.
 
I'll bite, the Republicans had been pushing for reform but it was always dead in the water until 1994 when Republicans swept into congress. Tell us why welfare reform does not qualify? BTW, in his book, All Too Human, Stephanopoulos points out the many ways Bill Clinton moved to the center in opposition to those on the left in Clinton's administration. Welfare reform was one area that Stephanopoulos mentions.
Perhaps I was too cute by half. I was saying avoid discussing welfare reform if you want to paint Bill Clinton as not-centrist.
 
Refusal to believe that is a big deal--That's about the only thing the impeachment didn't cover: How big he was.
Yeah, big the same way The Beatles were big. Were it constitutionally possible he would have almost certainly been elected for a third time and might still be President today.
 
Lani Guinier was nominated to head the Civil Rights division of the Justice Department. So if that's your best evidence against the centrism of Bill Clinton, your brief is thin.

You should have zeroed in on gays in the military. (PS: Avoid welfare reform at all costs.)
I have had more than enough on the "gays in the military" topic for a lifetime, thanks.

On welfare reform: he was most effective when he approached things from the center, and he was led that way by a Republican House. ;) Points to him for being smart enough to coopt his opponent's position in a win win. :)

DR
 
With all due respect, the Good and Wise god Yahweh does get a lot more bent out of shape over sexual things than over mass deaths.

It's OK, Monica was a Biblically sanctioned concubine... :D
 
Yeah, big the same way The Beatles were big. Were it constitutionally possible he would have almost certainly been elected for a third time and might still be President today.
Agreed.

Frankly, if we could overturn 22 today, ol' Bill would take '08 in a cakewalk. Which would provide simultaneous orgasms of untold joy from the right-wing media. And give Hillary fits.
 
Historically we look at a candidate spouse when choosing the person to occupy our hightest office. If we do not do so in this case it is a double standard.
How much did we know about Laura Bush in 2000?
Dubya made it crystal clear that she was out of bounds.
 
What crime is sexual harassment? I'm a lawyer and I know of no crime named Sexual Harassment. And whom is Clinton supposed to have sexually harassed? If it was Paula Jones, her case went nowhere, no criminal charges were ever brought and nothing in the Articles of Impeachment had to do with Clinton's conduct toward Jones.

Not directly. But that is not the point. The judge in her case gave her lawyers the OK to interview women in the whitehouse to show Clinton's pattern of behavior. It was then that Clinton and Jordon told Monica to lie in obstruction of justice.

Now, are you saying that harassment is not a crime?
 
How much did we know about Laura Bush in 2000?
Dubya made it crystal clear that she was out of bounds.

Without Bill Clinton, Hillary would not be considered to be president. Ken Starr was first going to use Whitewater as the grounds for impeaching Bill Clinton but getting evidence that he was linked was too hard. That was mostly Hillary's ball of wax. Bill Clinton is supposed to be the shining distraction to make Hillary look good, not bad. But if we want to focus on Hillary, that makes her look even worst.

In Travelgate, the White House travel office staff was fired at the behest of Mrs Clinton so that she could fill those "slots" with "her people". Filegate had nine hundred FBI background files on Republican officials illegally in the possession of the White House. During Fostergate, White House officials obstructed an FBI investigation into the suicide of White House counsel Vincent Foster. In the Whitewater affair, taxpayers were defrauded of millions of dollars while the White House obstructed the investigation every step of the way and paid off the silence of indicted counsel. The White House was rented off like a common bed-and-breakfast and coffee house. The Clinton Administration used IRS audits as an instrument of threat and vengeance on its enemies.

Perhaps worst of all, in what comes horrifyingly close to treason, the Administration permitted the release of CIA briefings and classified missile technology to China in return for staggering campaign contributions. But then again, that is going back to Bill Clinton. Is he off limits?
 
Or . . .

Clinton lied, but no one died.

Monica kneeled, but no one keeled.

Hilary screamed, but no soldiers were reamed . . . ;)

With the slaughter of one thousand mostly unarmed Somalians in Mogadishu (for no good reason, I might add since we fled after one day); the genocide Clinton caused in Kosovo; and the genocide Clinton ignored in Rwanda, I find your "no one keeled" and "no soldiers were reamed" a stark indication that the liberal press can brainwash us all.
 
With the slaughter of one thousand mostly unarmed Somalians in Mogadishu

Unarmed Somalians? Like how? Did someone go in first and disarm them? I mean we are talking a culture that has rather a lot of simularities to standard arab culture. Or to put it another way evidences?

the genocide Clinton caused in Kosovo;

How exactly did Clinton cause that?

and the genocide Clinton ignored in Rwanda,

Chill dude that would be standard practice for your generation.
 
Without Bill Clinton, Hillary would not be considered to be president. Ken Starr was first going to use Whitewater as the grounds for impeaching Bill Clinton but getting evidence that he was linked was too hard. That was mostly Hillary's ball of wax. Bill Clinton is supposed to be the shining distraction to make Hillary look good, not bad. But if we want to focus on Hillary, that makes her look even worst.

In Travelgate, the White House travel office staff was fired at the behest of Mrs Clinton so that she could fill those "slots" with "her people". Filegate had nine hundred FBI background files on Republican officials illegally in the possession of the White House. During Fostergate, White House officials obstructed an FBI investigation into the suicide of White House counsel Vincent Foster. In the Whitewater affair, taxpayers were defrauded of millions of dollars while the White House obstructed the investigation every step of the way and paid off the silence of indicted counsel. The White House was rented off like a common bed-and-breakfast and coffee house. The Clinton Administration used IRS audits as an instrument of threat and vengeance on its enemies.

Perhaps worst of all, in what comes horrifyingly close to treason, the Administration permitted the release of CIA briefings and classified missile technology to China in return for staggering campaign contributions. But then again, that is going back to Bill Clinton.
That's nice, but my question was "How much did we know about Laura Bush in 2000?"
 

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