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kurious_kathy said:
The Bible spells it out in black and white what sin is. I'll find it on Biblegateway and post it again shortly.
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Wait a minute - it's your religion and you don't know precisely what constitutes sin? What a dangerous way to live! Better not leave the house until you figure that out.

And just because you don't acknowlege love comes from God, doesn't proove it doesn't. Once I came to faith I realized everything was a gift from him.
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Anal rape comes from God, too. It's a gift. So is slavery and torture. That comes from God. Everything is a gift from God. Murder is a gift from God.

Heck even the bad can be used to work for good when you have faith.
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Like when we torture detainees in prison! All it takes is faith, and all your torture is forgiven and holy!

I know sometimes life is hard and people can get angry with God when things aren't the way we planned or want them, but he is merciful if you see him in the right light.
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Exactly! You've shown me the way! When life gets bad, I can just take someone, torture them and anally rape them and then I feel better - because God is merciful, and He makes me feel better when I see him in the right light!

1 John 4:7-8 tells us God Is Love
Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love.
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Right. And how do we know the Bible is true? Because the Bible SAYS the Bible is true, that's how! Who can argue with that logic?

Well, I've got to go. I've got to kill some firstborn sons! God is love! A

And don't forget, Jesus defecated. Holy *****!
 
kurious_kathy said:
Paul, do you remeber Job's story?
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Ooh, ooh! I remember Job's story! Me, me, me! Pick me!

Job was a righteous man who loved and honored the Lord with all his heart. Because he pleased God so much he was blessed and he prospered greatly. He had much wealth, a fine wife and many beautiful, healthy children. Plus, for a man of his age he was in excellent shape.

One day Satan says to God, he says, "Job sure loves and honors you doesn't he?"

And God answers, "Yes he does. He's a good one, that Job."

"You know he only loves you because you're nice to him. I'll bet that if you took away all the good stuff you've given him he'd curse your name."

"Well, even though I'm omniscient and I therefor already know you're full of ◊◊◊◊ because I know what the outcome will be, I'll take that bet. Shall we make it for the usual amount?"

"The usual amount?" says Satan. "You're on!"

And they shake on it.

So God then proceeds to ◊◊◊◊ with Job like you wouldn't believe. He destroys everything he owns leaving him utterly destitute. Yet still Job honors the Lord. God then kills all of Job's many children in a single night. But Job still honors the Lord. Finally, God causes Job to be afflicted with hideous, painful, seeping, wounds all over his body. But Job does not falter in his devotion to God. Finally Job's wife says to him, "Job, why do you continue to praise God when he has let all of these terrible things happen to you? Will you not curse His name for inflicting these sufferings on such a good and righteous man as yourself?"

"No my beloved wife. Though He may slay me I know my redeemer lives, and someday when I pass over to eternity I will be with Him. God is a swell guy."

"I've had it with you Job! You're a real pussy! I'm going back to live with my parents before God kills me!"

Up in heaven God and Satan are looking down on Job in his misery.

"See Nick. I told you he'd never slag me off. Now pay up!"

"All right," growls Satan. "Here! One dollar. I hope you choke on it."
 
Canadian Malcontent said:
Anacoluthon64,
I make critiques yes. pretend facts no.
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With such an artificial distinction you are being deliberately disingenuous. Please review what you had attributed to Foster Zygote and what you yourself criticised him for. If you insist on the aforegoing distinction, the facts will speak for themselves, and no critique of such moral poltroonery is required.


Canadian Malcontent said:
I also present perspectives and allude to science to support them ( see Boojum's post above).
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Your allusions to scientific matters are, however, sadly devoid of meaningful content.

'Luthon64
 
Anacoluthon64 said:
With such an artificial distinction you are being deliberately disingenuous. Please review what you had attributed to Foster Zygote and what you yourself criticised him for. If you insist on the aforegoing distinction, the facts will speak for themselves, and no critique of such moral poltroonery is required.


Your allusions to scientific matters are, however, sadly devoid of meaningful content.

'Luthon64
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Thanks, 'Luthon64. I'd just like to second that whole statement. Man, I've seen some fundies in my time, but I can just about smell the sulphur when that boy types!

Next detention I give him, I'm going to make him write his posts out by hand so he might actually realise what utter sludge he's put down in here so far.
 
Ana and Athei,

No I'm not perfect, like you maybe. But seriously show this ignorant wretch the oldest human remains, verified, age and species, publioshed and peer reviewed.
Patting each other on the back aint science.
Its difficult to support my arguments when my posts are censored.
 
Huntster
Ossai! Ossai, young man! Are you listening?!
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Yes, I hear you using Tricky for justification. Are you finally admitting that you deliberately lied? Do so and I’ll gladly drop the title.

Satan was Lucifer, one of the Archangels. He resented God's power and glory, and rebelled. He is now the Adversary.

Evil is part of the plan because it's inevitable. Free choice, by definition, makes that so.

In order for there to be good, there must be evil.
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Your god isn’t omnipotent.

I accept the Bible as a foundation, and other evidence that I've experienced or learned about supports it.
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What other evidence? It’s been point out a number of times in other thread that you don’t actually follow the bible. You follow a very heavily edited and human tailored religious sect that traces a few beliefs to the bible.

So God should have made biological beings that don't get sick and die? Don't get injured? Live forever?

Dogs too? Mosquitoes? Trees? No biological death?

Then there couldn't be reproduction, either, because there wouldn't be enough room or resources. Hell, there wouldn't be enough anyway. Biological beings can't eat rocks. They eat other biological beings.
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Gasp, you mean there is no heaven!

See Huntster inserting foot into mouth.
Too bad more skeptics don't balance their skepticism with realism.
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People who choose evil are people, too. They choose evil, not God. God is opposed to evil, and has tried to teach us that.
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Yep those seven year olds dieing of leukemias are truly agents of the devil. But they aren’t as evil as those three and four year old suffering from pancreatic cancer. And they must not be as bad as those one year old suffering drug withdrawal and full blown AIDS. It’s a good thing that it’s so easy to tell who’s evil.
Why Hunster, you’re on up in years, did you take care of the baby that was going to replace you so you would have a few more years?


Canadian Malcontent
Preposterous? To bring one's Sunday school ( borderline infantile) perspective of the word 'Day' to your argument against the Bible and expect it to bear is indeed preposterous.
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You’ve firmly established that you don’t believe the bible is literal here. Too bad you’re disagreeing with the actual viewpoint expressed in the bible.

Or we could go back to the old meaning of 'day'. Tricky, Ossai have you ever checked your dictionary on that? Maybe its time to do so.
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Ahem, Foster Zygote has already posted the definition in question.

I am pleased however to see here in the forum the admission that we have minimal understanding of what Gravity is and by definition that removes Gravity from the realm of theory. what should we call Gravity now? A Truth?
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Only if you want to use the same term for evolution since we have an even greater understanding of evolution and the mechanisms.


kurious_kathy
I believe this is my seventh surgery thus far. Oh well, it's only temporary.
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Even more evidence that you don’t follow what you preach.

Ossai
 
Canadian Malcontent said:
No I'm not perfect, like you maybe.
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Its difficult to support my arguments when my posts are censored.
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Careful, your JC complex is showing.


Canadian Malcontent said:
But seriously show this ignorant wretch the oldest human remains, verified, age and species, publioshed and peer reviewed.
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Asked and answered in the True Atheism thread, in the posts here and here.


Canadian Malcontent said:
Patting each other on the back aint science.
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Nor is ignoring evidence. Besides, what you interpret as "patting each other on the back" has a more prosaic explanation. See if you can discern what that might be.

'Luthon64
 
Canadian Malcontent said:
No I'm not perfect, like you maybe. But seriously show this ignorant wretch the oldest human remains, verified, age and species, publioshed and peer reviewed.
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That challenge has been thoroughly met several times by various people in various threads. Why do you continue to bring it up? Are you reluctant to let go of what you had thought to be a devastating rebuttal of evolutionary theory, or do you not read responses to your posts? It took a few tries to get you to acknowledge what the scientific definition of "theory" is too.
Patting each other on the back aint science.
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And agreement isn't necessarily "patting each other on the back".
Its difficult to support my arguments when my posts are censored.
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Which posts have been censored and by whom?
 
Paulhoff said:
Originally Posted by Huntster
So God should have made biological beings that don't get sick and die? Don't get injured? Live forever? Dogs too? Mosquitoes? Trees? No biological death?
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Well then there is no heaven after all.

Originally Posted by Huntster
Then there couldn't be reproduction, either, because there wouldn't be enough room or resources. Hell, there wouldn't be enough anyway. Biological beings can't eat rocks. They eat other biological beings.
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You and your ideas of a god are Pathetic, we are talking about your so-called god, and now you justify that god’s treatment of children and you still worship him, that is nothing but pathetic.
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It's realism. It's the way things are. It's science.

It isn't a lame excuse to blame God for a living, evolving universe.
 
Ossai said:
Huntster

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Ossai! Ossai, young man! Are you listening?!
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Yes, I hear you using Tricky for justification. Are you finally admitting that you deliberately lied? Do so and I’ll gladly drop the title.
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You can play all the games you wish, lad. I don't give much of a damn.

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Satan was Lucifer, one of the Archangels. He resented God's power and glory, and rebelled. He is now the Adversary.

Evil is part of the plan because it's inevitable. Free choice, by definition, makes that so.

In order for there to be good, there must be evil.
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Your god isn’t omnipotent.
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He was the Creator. That's good enough for me.

Again, you can play all the games you wish. They mean nothing to me, except entertainment sometimes.

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I accept the Bible as a foundation, and other evidence that I've experienced or learned about supports it.
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What other evidence? It’s been point out a number of times in other thread that you don’t actually follow the bible. You follow a very heavily edited and human tailored religious sect that traces a few beliefs to the bible.
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The evidence of Marian visions, the experiences of my life, and my prayer.

I'm Roman Catholic. It is the largest Christian sect on Earth.

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So God should have made biological beings that don't get sick and die? Don't get injured? Live forever?

Dogs too? Mosquitoes? Trees? No biological death?

Then there couldn't be reproduction, either, because there wouldn't be enough room or resources. Hell, there wouldn't be enough anyway. Biological beings can't eat rocks. They eat other biological beings.
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Gasp, you mean there is no heaven!
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How do you get "no heaven" from a ridiculous question asked to Paulhoff, which is what it appears he is demanding?

See Huntster inserting foot into mouth.
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Where?

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Too bad more skeptics don't balance their skepticism with realism.
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People who choose evil are people, too. They choose evil, not God. God is opposed to evil, and has tried to teach us that.
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Yep those seven year olds dieing of leukemias are truly agents of the devil.
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I'm not referring to 7 year olds with leukemia. I'm referring to you.

But they aren’t as evil as those three and four year old suffering from pancreatic cancer.
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I'm not referring to 3 and 4 year olds with pancreatic cancer. I'm referring to you.

And they must not be as bad as those one year old suffering drug withdrawal and full blown AIDS.
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I'm not referring to 1 year olds with AIDS. I'm referring to you.

It’s a good thing that it’s so easy to tell who’s evil.
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Works for me.

Why Hunster, you’re on up in years, did you take care of the baby that was going to replace you so you would have a few more years?
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I've taken care of several babies, toddlers, teens, and now adults. Now, I actually take care of hundreds as a volunteer in a particular program. Among them, my biological children will replace me (by familial design). Mrs. Huntster and I did a damned good job. They are fine, respected members of the community.

I don't know if I'm gonna get "a few more years." I have no idea what you're talking about (again).

I don't think you do, either.
 
kurious_kathy said:
So if we think of it in an eternal perspective it really doesn't matter what we go through in this life because this life is temporary. I myself have no more fear of death because I know without any shadow of doubt that heaven is real and followers of Christ will get to be with Him forever.
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This quote shows why I always find it baffling that people assume that religion adds meaning to life. If you believe there's an eternal afterlife, it clearly devalues this life, as a temporary life here is less important than an eternal one later. Note that this says nothing one way or the other about whether the belief is true, but it clearly lowers the value of this life compared to those of us who see this life as all there is.

And I hope you surgery went well. :)
 
Foster Zygote said:
"See Nick. I told you he'd never slag me off. Now pay up!"

"All right," growls Satan. "Here! One dollar. I hope you choke on it."
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For authenticity (I get the Trading Places ref :) ) I suggest "one sheckel" since Thalers and Dollars were not yet specie anywhere, as German and English were yet to evolve as languages.

Loved your take on the story.

DR
 
Paulhoff said:
Has in you name you are only here for sport.

Paul

:) :) :)

Have fun with you limited outlook on life.
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I suggest you look in the mirror and speak that phrase to who you see there, then do exactly what you suggest. I have faith that you will keep on smiling, which is a good thing. :)

DR
 
Yeah and you can go to "ChristiansonfireforArmaggedon.com" to check out creation science.
Spare me the propaganda.
Come up with the oldest modern man skeletal remains, verified published and peer reviewed with references. or stop your inane blathering.
The best yet is the most recent, a 106,000 yr. old find of 3 skulls that were almost ( being closer than neanderthal) human.
Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

Whats up with the puacity of skeletal evidence anyway? There is an abundance of human remains all the way back to 4,000 B.C.. Why no further?
Do you think something might have happened?

Hunster, I dont know why you are not on this, there is really very little actual continuity of real evidence in 'evolution' its mostly conjecture.

The oldest human you are going to find is 12,000 yrs old. ( I think, I have it on good account but have not seen the proofs)
 
Anac i looked again at links in your most recent post.
I tried to view the entirety of the published work but was unable, also that troubling term 'hominid' came up again.
I fera that the 'evolutionists' use the term human more loosely than suits our purpose here.
I must insist on real, complete scholarly work re. examples of modern man.
 
Canadian Malcontent said:
Yeah and you can go to "ChristiansonfireforArmaggedon.com" to check out creation science.
Spare me the propaganda.
Come up with the oldest modern man skeletal remains, verified published and peer reviewed with references. or stop your inane blathering.
The best yet is the most recent, a 106,000 yr. old find of 3 skulls that were almost ( being closer than neanderthal) human.
Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

Whats up with the puacity of skeletal evidence anyway? There is an abundance of human remains all the way back to 4,000 B.C.. Why no further?
Do you think something might have happened?

Hunster, I dont know why you are not on this, there is really very little actual continuity of real evidence in 'evolution' its mostly conjecture.

The oldest human you are going to find is 12,000 yrs old. ( I think, I have it on good account but have not seen the proofs)
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You need to quit getting your information from crackpot sites and do some research. There are remains in North America that old. It's appalling that someone can live to adulthood without a better grasp of human history than you have. Your posts are filled with totally groundless, made-up statements that you claim are facts. Try doing some research and posting some sources. There's a website www.google.com that will amaze you.
 
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