Who Disrespects NYPD & NYFD

jessicarabbit said:
When I know your credentials. There are millions of wtc7 papers, what makes yours exceptional?
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Would you like to know Dylan Avery's credentials?

He got rejected from film school. Twice, IIRC.

"Loose Change" started off as a work of fiction until he decided it was true.

Those are his credentials.
 
Russell Pickering said:
My cards are and have been on the table. I can say one thing for sure - I am even more convinced of a conspiracy since coming here and looking into this.
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No, Russell. You said it was physically impossible. Show how. What law of physics would have been violated?
 
Pardalis said:
Russell, you asked that we discuss the details of your so-called CD?

When were the towers rigged?

How were the towers rigged?

By whom were the towers rigged?

What explosives were used?

How much people were involved?

How much time did it take?

Thanks for discussing
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Where did space come from?

What is the origin of matter?

How did the planet form?

How in detail did humans appear?

Why did they learn to type?

It's all happening right now even though you can't explain it!
 
qarnos said:
Would you like to know Dylan Avery's credentials?

He got rejected from film school. Twice, IIRC.

"Loose Change" started off as a work of fiction until he decided it was true.

Those are his credentials.
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Has Dylan written a paper on building 7? That is what we are discussing
 
Russell Pickering said:
Where did space come from?

What is the origin of matter?

How did the planet form?

How in detail did humans appear?

Why did they learn to type?

It's all happening right now even though you can't explain it!
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I thought you wanted to discuss the details of the "controlled demolition".
 
Russell Pickering said:
Where did space come from?

What is the origin of matter?

How did the planet form?

How in detail did humans appear?

Why did they learn to type?

It's all happening right now even though you can't explain it!
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How long is a piece of string?

Why does one sock always disappear in the washing machine?
 
Russell Pickering said:
".....just a little bit after 5:00 - walked around it - saw a hole - I didn't see a hole bad enough to knock a building down though - there was definitely fire in the building - I didn't hear any creaking - I didn't hear any indication it was gonna come down - the thing started peeling in on itself - the whole time you were hearing, "thum, thum, thum, thum, thum" - I think I know the sound of an explosion when I hear it."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2479540022152730536&q=Craig+Bartmer&hl=en

10:45 - 12:18
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I think it is important to quote people accurately, and that it is important to present quotes in context. So, I've taken the time to transcribe the two portions of the video in which Mr. Bartmer talks about WTC7.

In the first part, he says:

I was real close to building 7 when it fell down and running away from that sucked.

I don’t know but that didn’t sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. Um, there’s a lot of eyewitness testimony down there hearing explosions. I didn’t see any reason for that building to fall down the way it did and a lot of guys should be saying the same thing.
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In the second part of the video where he talks about building 7, Mr. Bartmer explains how his mother kicked in his bedroom door on the morning of September 11, 2001 and flipped on the big screen tv at the foot of his bed for him to watch, and then continues:

I sat up and I saw the huge hole and the fire that everybody else saw and the first thing that went through my head is, “Oh my God, I have a post in that building. There’s guys that I know in that building,” and I had heard a bunch of guys that I knew on the radio who were down there on the site and they were yelling back and forth to one another and I said screw this, I’m not waiting here any more and I went out and I walked down there by myself and that was about just a little bit after 5 o’clock.

And as I approached, came down, saw the big hubbub going on around building 7, walked around it, I saw a hole. I didn’t see a hole bad enough to knock a building down though. I saw, you know, yeah, there was definitely fire in the building, you know, but I didn’t hear any, you know, anyways maybe this is movie crap, I didn’t hear any creaking or I didn’t hear any indication that it was gonna come down and all of a sudden the radios exploded and everybody started screaming “get away, get away, get away from it” and I was like a deer in the headlights and I look up and I think, I think I remember pretty clearly with two guys that I knew were on the transit radio, I don’t know if those tapes are out there but I can try and look for them and show you exactly what I’m talking about, but it was that moment, you know, get away, man, I looked up and it was nothing I would ever imagine seeing in my life, you know. The thing started peeling in on itself.

I mean, there was an umbrella of crap seven feet over my head that I just stared at and somebody grabbed my shoulder and I started running and the ****’s hitting the ground behind me and the whole time you’re hearing “thoom, thoom, thoom, thoom, thoom” so. I think I know an explosion when I hear it, you know.

So yeah, I wanna know what took that building down. I don’t think it was a fire and it certainly wasn’t a plane. Ya know, yeah, it had some damage to it but nothing like what they’re saying, that I’m, nothing, I don’t know. I’m –

Avery interjects: Nothing to account for what we saw.

Bartmer: Nothing to account for what we saw, correct. I’m shocked at the story we’ve heard about it to be quite honest.
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Puts a bit more perspective on things when you have complete quotes, don't you think?

ETA: And what a lame-ass "interview", btw. Where are the clarifying questions? Where is there any attempt to obtain facts, details, locations, vantage point, timing, etc.? The only thing the "interviewer" did was spout the same verbatim crap that he's been spouting for years in an effort to get the interviewee to say what he wants to hear, with no actual "questioning" at all.

I feel sorry for Mr. Bartmer, and I do not blame him for being angry about his illnesses. But my sympathy for him does not negate the fact that his story as presented on that video leaves much to be desired.
 
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jessicarabbit said:
No the argument was circular!
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There was no argument in the WTC. The towers used a unique "non-argument" construction design. Very modern. However you are right, in buildings with arguments, they are often circular in shape.

-Gumboot
 
realitybites said:
I would personally love to hear the details on controlled demolition. I've been trying to get that out of the LC crowd, but apparently over there, specifics on how the greatest conspiracy in the ever ever went down aren't all that important.
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Careful! That line of questioning is what got me banned there. Also, they have pledged to not to reveal the plot until every last detail is uncovered. No doubt they have made huge progress towards proving the inside job in the past few months, but it could be a few more months before all the pieces are in place.
 
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