Who Disrespects NYPD & NYFD

".....just a little bit after 5:00 - walked around it - saw a hole - I didn't see a hole bad enough to knock a building down though - there was definitely fire in the building - I didn't hear any creaking - I didn't hear any indication it was gonna come down - the thing started peeling in on itself - the whole time you were hearing, "thum, thum, thum, thum, thum" - I think I know the sound of an explosion when I hear it."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2479540022152730536&q=Craig+Bartmer&hl=en

10:45 - 12:18
 
It's a waste Russ. I answered Gravy's questions and he proved himself the Straw Man by dodging Steele instead of debunking him. he can't even debunk Craig.

Time to go do something more interesting.
 
Usual Suspect said:
OH and sorry for the NYFD, NYPD typo Straw Man.

Debunk Steele
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What evidence has Steele shown that proves 9/11 was an inside job?
What evidence has Steele shown that proves 9/11 was an inside job?
What evidence has Steele shown that proves 9/11 was an inside job?
What evidence has Steele shown that proves 9/11 was an inside job?
 
Usual Suspect,

Why don't you simply set out what you think Steele's best argument is and explain why, to facilitate a discussion of the merits?

It's a reasonable request.
 
Usual Suspect said:
Don't Straw man. Debunk Steele. I answered Gravy's questions
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Oh I see what your idea of Strawn man is.

Simply ignore every single question that is put to you, deflect it as best you can and carry on. Now are you man enough to tell us what happened on 911 or are you simply going to offer up anomalies?

So now you have all this evidence could you guys tell us what you think happened on 911?

In a few short sentences. I will give you an example.

19 guys funded through Al Quada hijacked four planes. Three of them hit buildings. Two burnt and fell down. One hit the Pentagon. The forth crashed after the passengers staged a fight back. NIST have produced a report into the collapse of the towers that is accepted by the vast majority of the scientific community. At the moment they are investigating why WTC 7 collapsed.

OK over to you.

I'll start you off.

"Some time before 911............... (please enter sentences)...........................so 911 is an inside job"

(Ps, no nitpicking of my sentences just enter your own)

Free my mind and tell me what happened, no excuses, no fall back on “we’re just asking question”. No more “that’s for the USG to tell us”.

YOU are the accusers of US citizens of being involved in mass murder of their fellow countrymen, time to put up. Tell us what happened.

Come on big man put your money where your mouth is,what happened?
 
Russell Pickering said:
".....just a little bit after 5:00 - walked around it - saw a hole - I didn't see a hole bad enough to knock a building down though - there was definitely fire in the building - I didn't hear any creaking - I didn't hear any indication it was gonna come down - the thing started peeling in on itself - the whole time you were hearing, "thum, thum, thum, thum, thum" - I think I know the sound of an explosion when I hear it."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2479540022152730536&q=Craig+Bartmer&hl=en

10:45 - 12:18
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Thanks for the quote. I think I may have misquoted him in another thread. That is damning evidence about wtc7, whether this man has PTSD or not.
 
Gravy said:
Anyone can answer questions by lying. Why do you lie, Usual Suspect?
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None of those answers were a lie Straw man.

You can't debunk Steele. That's why you don't even try.

Debunk Steele Straw man or you're the liar. Debunk Steele and Craig or shut up.
 
jessicarabbit said:
As far as i'm aware Steele was a CIA case officer, he founded some kind of intelligence institute, and since 9/11 has reviewed in a professional capacity every book on the 9/11 attacks. Are we meant to disregard his opinion in favour of some posters on a critical thinking forum?
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He has nothing to support your position.
 
WildCat said:
(note that neither I nor NIST used the term "pancaking" - that is yours alone Dazed)
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Really, that's interesting.

"Pancaking accounts for the pulverized concrete and the compactness of the debris quite nicely"

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1551535&postcount=391

"Exactly, in every single controlled demolition the "squibs" go off before the building starts to collapse. But for WTC 1, 2, and 7 no squibs appear until after the buildings start to collapse. Because, of course, they're not squibs at all but the result of floors pancaking and expelling debris due to air pressure."

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1617455&postcount=2669

Here's 300 other posts where you use the term pancake, and I'm guessing you aren't talking about breakfast foods.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/search.php?searchid=496950

Of course, this excludes any instances where you misspelled it.
 
Russell Pickering said:
".....just a little bit after 5:00 - walked around it - saw a hole - I didn't see a hole bad enough to knock a building down though - there was definitely fire in the building - I didn't hear any creaking - I didn't hear any indication it was gonna come down - the thing started peeling in on itself - the whole time you were hearing, "thum, thum, thum, thum, thum" - I think I know the sound of an explosion when I hear it."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2479540022152730536&q=Craig+Bartmer&hl=en

10:45 - 12:18
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Ah, very good. The other quote was the only one that was posted here before. So, does Craig Bartmer know the sound of explosives when he hears it, compared to the sound a skyscraper makes when it collapses?

I look forward to reading about your correspondence with him.
 
jessicarabbit said:
Thanks for the quote. I think I may have misquoted him in another thread. That is damning evidence about wtc7, whether this man has PTSD or not.
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Your question should be "Why isn't Craig or Dylan interviewing Chief Daniel Nigro then?"

He is the one who gave the order.
 
Gravy said:
Ah, very good. The other quote was the only one that was posted here before. So, does Craig Bartmer know the sound of explosives when he hears it, compared to the sound a skyscraper makes when it collapses?

I look forward to reading about your correspondence with him.
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Well he is NYPD so I'm sure he'd no an explosion better than say..... a tour guide.

I look forward to reading your debunk of both Craig and Steele Straw man. Maybe it'll be here when I come by tomorrow.
 
Dazed said:
Really, that's interesting.

"Pancaking accounts for the pulverized concrete and the compactness of the debris quite nicely"

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1551535&postcount=391

"Exactly, in every single controlled demolition the "squibs" go off before the building starts to collapse. But for WTC 1, 2, and 7 no squibs appear until after the buildings start to collapse. Because, of course, they're not squibs at all but the result of floors pancaking and expelling debris due to air pressure."

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1617455&postcount=2669
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What are the dates on those? And when did NIST report that pancaking wasn't technically the correct term?

Here's 300 other posts where you use the term pancake, and I'm guessing you aren't talking about breakfast foods.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/search.php?searchid=496950

Of course, this excludes any instances where you misspelled it.
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And what do posts on this forum that have nothing to do w/ the WTC and were not written by me have to do w/ it?
 
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