Who Disrespects NYPD & NYFD

Russell Pickering said:
I am waiting for a serious question.
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Why would the guys of PNAC risk such an enormous complex plot to blow up the WTC buildings?

You must agree that this is a colossal undertaking, which would involve hundreds of people.

So again, why risk it?

Wouldn't the plane crashes suffise to shock people and rally them?
 
And many posts have gone by sooooooooo.....

where did Gravy run off to and hide?? I was hoping he'd at least try to debunk one of them tonight.
 
Pardalis said:
Go read a book.
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Actually I am but that doesn't change the fact that Gravy is hiding from the fact that he can't debunk Steele. Like I said I figured he'd take Craig out no problem but he hasn't even attempted that. Why are you defending his absence??
 
Pardalis said:
Why would the guys of PNAC risk such an enormous complex plot to blow up the WTC buildings?

You must agree that this is a colossal undertaking, which would involve hundreds of people.

So again, why risk it?

Wouldn't the plane crashes suffise to shock people and rally them?
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Thats just an argument from incredulity. We could just as easily ask why al qaida learned to fly when they could just drive truck bombs into major targets.
 
Infact alot of people disappeared from here. Russ must have been doing a good job for everyone to pull a disinfo tactic such as this.
 
jessicarabbit said:
Thats just an argument from incredulity.
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Don't try to pin logical fallacies on me, girl. I'm asking for Russell's theory, I wasn't asking you.

We could just as easily ask why al qaida learned to fly when they could just drive truck bombs into major targets.
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The fact of the matter is that airplaines did crash into these towers, I'm sure AlQaeda has, has had and will have many more plans.
 
where did Gravy run off to and hide?? I was hoping he'd at least try to debunk one of them tonight.
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Properly debunking an article takes time, give the man time.

Maybe start a new thread for him called "Gravy's debunking of steele" and I'm sure he'll be obliged to post it. I seem to recall this technique working well.
 
Pardalis said:
Why would the guys of PNAC risk such an enormous complex plot to blow up the WTC buildings?

You must agree that this is a colossal undertaking, which would involve hundreds of people.

So again, why risk it?

Wouldn't the plane crashes suffise to shock people and rally them?
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I don't know. Even though it was only a plan, Operations Northwoods was very complex. Obviously the elements within the military that created it were not deterred by complexity. They even kind of appeared compelled by pulling it off in my opinion.


"a. An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone.

b. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of Florida. From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Eglin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When over Cuba the drone will being transmitting on the international distress frequency a "MAY DAY" message stating he is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by destruction of the aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal. This will allow ICAO radio stations in the Western Hemisphere to tell the US what has happened to the aircraft instead of the US trying to "sell" the incident."

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf

That's only two paragraphs out of 16 total pages. I really suggest that you follow the link below and see the original documents if you want to get some reality on it. Just seeing the original xeroxes gives me chills when I realize somebody actually sat at a typewriter with good conscious and pushed the keys.

Russell
 
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Pardalis said:
It was rejected, remember?
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It was also just a bluff, which everyone seems to forget. Aside from the plan's purpose - to justify pre-emptive war - I honestly don't get why people get so excited about it.

-Gumboot
 
Let me paraphrase what Russel is trying to say. :)

They really wanted the towers to come down to neccesitate the proper "casuality lists" that would generate an appropriate wave of moral outrage to support a venture that benefitted nobody but the military industrial complex.
 
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