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NIST doesn't study anything after the start of the collapse.
Because it becomes too chaotic, too many variables, to say for certain which of the millions of possible collapse scenarios occurred. What isn't in doubt is that in every possible scenario after the collapse initiates it goes all the way to the ground.
 
Because it becomes too chaotic, too many variables, to say for certain which of the millions of possible collapse scenarios occurred. What isn't in doubt is that in every possible scenario after the collapse initiates it goes all the way to the ground.

Where have you read this or is it an opinion?
 
Gravy,

Did the core come straight down or not?

Russell
"The core" was made of thousands of pieces. Those pieces buckled, sheared, and came apart. Large portions of the core remained standing briefly, then fall over and down. What, exactly are you having trouble understanding?
 
One of the ironworkers said you couldn't have paid a demolition company to bring them down straighter.

The more quotes I read about this, the more I am surprised to the frequent likening of this situation to a demolition.

I am glad I started looking into WTC. It is interesting.
 
Okay, let's cut out the silly word games. I invite anyone for input on this issue.

Who can resolve the seeming confliction for me? I was under the impression that the shift from static loading to dynamic loading lead inevitably to progressive collapse, however Wildcat asserts that floors were collapsing "throughout the building" before progressive collapse occured, without actually triggering progressive collapse.

1) What caused these events?
2) Why did they not trigger progressive collapse?
3) Why is there zero visual evidence of floors collapsing, pre-progressive collapse, in any videos?

Thanks for any input.

If these issues cannot be resolved, would it be fair to request that you admit you made them up to explain away explosions you know nothing about?
If they can be resolved, I'll gladly apologize for wasting your time.
 
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"The core" was made of thousands of pieces. Those pieces buckled, sheared, and came apart. Large portions of the core remained standing briefly, then fall over and down. What, exactly are you having trouble understanding?

Again that is your opinion and is not backed by any studies.
 
You should be more embarrassed by being a Straw man Roberts. Your followers here should be embarrassed as well.
It's funny how many 9/11 deniers have the habit of saying they're going away, then coming back again and again.
 
Firefighter Butch Brandies heard creaking.

Firefighter Butch Brandies tells other firefighters that nobody is to go into Building 7 because of creaking and noises coming out of there. [Firehouse Magazine, 8/02]

I don't know, I wasn't there.

I just have to take everybody's statements into account.
 
2. Why did NIST not consider a “controlled demolition” hypothesis with matching computer modeling and explanation as it did for the “pancake theory” hypothesis? A key critique of NIST’s work lies in the complete lack of analysis supporting a “progressive collapse” after the point of collapse initiation and the lack of consideration given to a controlled demolition hypothesis.

"NIST’s findings do not support the “pancake theory” of collapse, which is premised on a progressive failure of the floor systems in the WTC towers (the composite floor system—that connected the core columns and the perimeter columns—consisted of a grid of steel “trusses” integrated with a concrete slab; see diagram below). Instead, the NIST investigation showed conclusively that the failure of the inwardly bowed perimeter columns initiated collapse and that the occurrence of this inward bowing required the sagging floors to remain connected to the columns and pull the columns inwards. Thus, the floors did not fail progressively to cause a pancaking phenomenon."

http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

I have no problem using the term pancaking as long as they aren't talking about the initiation event.
 
Firefighter Butch Brandies heard creaking.

Firefighter Butch Brandies tells other firefighters that nobody is to go into Building 7 because of creaking and noises coming out of there. [Firehouse Magazine, 8/02]

Have you spoken to him personally? We know less about Brandies than we do about Bartmer.
 

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