Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

[TheFeds]

Where are your calculations of photographic resolution, Christophera?

Where are your highlighted images of the hallways?

Where's your explanation of the significance of Mohawks?

Where is your proof that NIST committed fraud?

Without these things, nobody will ever believe you. Not even the crazies on the LC forum believed you. No court would believe you. No newspaper would believe you. Your therapist wouldn't even bother with the pretense of believing you.

In short, without these things, your claims amount to nothing, because you're unable to go beyond your shallow talking points ("concrete core", "Mohawks", "3" rebar", etc.). You're all talk, and no substance. And without substance (indeed without even enough substance to convince the wackos on LC of anything), you will forever be the object of ridicule.

And everything you post here is going to be laughed at, until the day that you provide more than tiny pictures, and idle speculation. Learn to do research, learn to do calculations, and only then will people stop laughing at you. Failing that, you'll die a pariah, unknown but for your penchant for making things up, but without enough sense to even fabricate a suitable backstory.

No number of benevolent Mohawks can save you from the fate that you create for yourself. So either shape up, or live out your days as a curiosity; a thing at which small children poke sticks and throw stones, and about which adults discuss among themselves to interject levity into an otherwise serious topic.

 

[Christophera]

You are wrong, Chris!

Your statement is incongruent with the facts put forth. From your side there has been zero fact supporting the steel core, from mine is raw evidence showing that NO steel core columns existed, and there is significant evidence for those having the expertise to properly identify structural steel and concrete of varying damage, to absolutely identify concrete.

Get real, you can't even find a bogus site to link to that "says" it uses raw evidence of the steel core columns to substantiate their existence. Nobody is stupid enough to try and use the images together.

The selectively utilized construction photos and (3) plans must be kept completely separate from images showing the core area during the demo because it will be obvious that none are there.

 

[Christophera]

Without these things, nobody will ever believe you.

Wow, quite the "over generalization", working to "minimize" or cognitively distort the facts,

http://algoxy.com/conc/core.html

 

[Christophera]

I'm not changing the subject Chris. You just don't understand that the subject in this thread is you. It isn't about cocrete versus steel, it's about delusion versus reality.

That is obviously what you want it to be about. The reality is that it is about explaining rates of fall that approach free fall speeds. Concrete can be fractured to fall instantly, steel cannot.

The fact that you can't see your own delusions has been the subject for at least the last 60 pages. It's a shame you can't see that because then you might want to do something about it, like , you know, get help.

All I can say to you is GET EVIDENCE, or be insincere.

 

[Christophera]

Yeah worse than ants I guess.

So MKultra was busy all over the world then was it? or did they just pick me out of the several million Aussie kids in the late sixties?

Do we know what was in the 250,000 documents concerning mkultra destroyed in 1972 by the CIA?

No.

You could be in there. You act like it and if they contacted 100 aussie kids, that would fit well with what we have now.

 

[hellaeon]

 

[Christophera]

[qimg]http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/03/09/ani_wombat_gallery__550x393.jpg[/qimg]

damm, hope that thing doesn't weigh over 750 pounds.

does it eat steel?

 

[Brainache]

Looks like they got to Hellaeon and his wombat as well. Damn those CIA druid hypnotists! Damn them all to heck!

 

[Christophera]

Looks like they got to Hellaeon and his wombat as well. Damn those CIA druid hypnotists! Damn them all to heck!

Obviously, the CIA got to the kid then the kid hypnotised the wombat.

So that is what they did with the Druids, banished them down under.

 

[Powa]

Do we know what was in the 250,000 documents concerning mkultra destroyed in 1972 by the CIA?

No.

You could be in there. You act like it and if they contacted 100 aussie kids, that would fit well with what we have now.

The world population in the 70s (at the time the MKultra documents were destroyed) was around 4 billion. In comparison, 250,000 documents is a puny number. So, how can you claim that everybody was hypnotized? Do you have an estimate on how much time it would take to hypnotize the whole world? How many agents it would take? And what about people born after MKultra? I was born later. How was I hypnotized? Does this still happen today? At what age are children hypnotized? How? Where?

 

[Oliver]

lose.

 

[Christophera]

The world population in the 70s (at the time the MKultra documents were destroyed) was around 4 billion. In comparison, 250,000 documents is a puny number. So, how can you claim that everybody was hypnotized? Do you have an estimate on how much time it would take to hypnotize the whole world? How many agents it would take? And what about people born after MKultra? I was born later. How was I hypnotized? Does this still happen today? At what age are children hypnotized? How? Where?

It is known that 150,000 Americans were influenced in some way psychologically and they were very likely not aware of it. The Church commission identified that many.

And why would that not be enough to make a nonsense argument run for 130+ pages.

 

[Powa]

It is known that 150,000 Americans were influenced in some way psychologically and they were very likely not aware of it. The Church commission identified that many.

And why would that not be enough to make a nonsense argument run for 130+ pages.

If only 150,000 Americans were influenced, how do you explain the fact that NO ONE believes you? American or otherwise. The number of "influenced" people is insignificant compared to world's population. Are you claiming that only the "influenced" Americans post here? Think hard about that one. It would seem that the reason for no one seeing your concrete core must lie elsewhere. Discuss.

 

[Brainache]

It is known that 150,000 Americans were influenced in some way psychologically and they were very likely not aware of it. The Church commission identified that many.

And why would that not be enough to make a nonsense argument run for 130+ pages.

So Chris is this the unveiling of your performance art project?

Was it a test to see just how long you could keep it up?

 

[Gravy]

Your statement is incongruent with the facts put forth. From your side there has been zero fact supporting the steel core, from mine is raw evidence showing that NO steel core columns existed, and there is significant evidence for those having the expertise to properly identify structural steel and concrete of varying damage, to absolutely identify concrete.

No steel columns are seen inside the core but a massive concrete block is seen.

Ahem.

Chris, when will you be seeking the mental health care you need?
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[GlennB]

Chris you haven't explained yet what happened to the approx 1.5 million tonnes of concrete that these 2 cores would have contained.

Christophera ... these cores you propose would be approx 25m x 40m x 400m in volume, = 400,000 cubic metres.

Allowing 25% for stairways, lift shafts etc that's 300,000 cubic metres of concrete per tower.

At 2.4 tonnes per cubic metre that makes 720,000 tonnes of concrete per tower, i.e. approx 1.5 million tonnes of demolished concrete in total for two buildings.

Given that it was held together (according to your theory) by 6" rebar, what happened to 1.5 million tonnes of reinforced concrete at Ground Zero? It simply isn't there in the photos. That much concrete would make a pile about 100m high, even without all the steel.

 

[Powa]

Chris you haven't explained yet what happened to the approx 1.5 million tonnes of concrete that these 2 cores would have contained.

It was totally pulverized and blown away by wind. Duh.

 

[Belz...]

I gotta know - how did Mohawks get involved?

Christopher Columbus.

 

[bonavada]

hey chris take a look at this:-
i've juxtaposed your "raw evidence" with a picture taken of the same structure from a slightly different angle. concentrate on the highlighted areas and the zoomed detail on my right pic. notice anything? this pic shows NO EVIDENCE of a concrete core, what you have claimed (in the pic on the left) to be a 17' concrete block looks like suspiciously some kind of sheet material from this angle (possibly sheetrock?)
can you explain this? until you can it just seems your "raw evidence" is WRONG ERRONEOUS MISLEADING FALLACIOUS (insert suitable adjective here)

BV

 

[Belz...]

The important factor is that one tower has 2 hallways and the other has one..

Evidence ?

The image of the proof.top of the tower undergoing a high speed series of detonations is proof NIST is a fraudulent study.

Except we don't see any detonations in that picture.

I accept raw christophera's evidence only and you have produced none whatsoever to prove your assertions.

Fixed it.

No calculations needed or accepted. An image of the steel core columns in the core area protruding as the building comes down will suffice..

Of course. Calculations can't be reinterpreted.

You say a pixel is 3 feet wide, How can that be when a 2 foot wide column is visible and the obvious fine vertical elements which I know to be a hundred or so high tensile steel rebars 3 inches in diameter is also visisble?

Because your last sentence is circular. You "know" it's rebar from that picture, and are using that fact to SUPPORT THE PICTURE as proving your case.

The rebar is so small it does disappear on the right side. The images prove you wrong and you have never, nor has anyone, provided an explanation for the many fine vertical elements.

We don't see "many fine" elements. We see a fuzzy picture from which nothing can be determined.

I am so sorry. I really should pay more attention to the spelling in my posts. I'm so ashamed. How can I apologize?

By beign more careful. Reading badly worded posts prevents me from seeing the logical errors contained therein.

The below image shows the demo.

Contradiction, again. If that image shows concrete from the core beign pulverised, how can you say that the core was detonated AFTER the rest of the building ?

Sorry, I only see smoke. I see no explosions, of all videos I saw I didn't hear explosions either.

So we are dealing with silent, invisible charges here? Dirty work is obviously afoot.

Thes professional public safety personel did.

Interesting how you ignore his claim that he doesn't SEE explosions and instead focus on the hearing...

Where is the building in the collapsed part? I only see concrete particulate and dust.

That's because the building is really far away and things that are far appear smaller.

That is the corner of the framed wall of the "MASSIVE BOX COLUMNS" which were actually called interior box columns. They were fastened to the concrete core, the concrete blew up, ............... don't cry.

"Don't cry" is your equivalent of "I have spoken, none may speak, now."