Blown to Kingdom Come

Gravy said:
WILL YOU SLOW DOWN! I CANNOT FIT ALL THIS INTO MY SIGNATURE! HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU? TAKE A BREAK, WILL YOU?

What do you think about Mothra's involvement?
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Mothra? Your crazy man, it is Rodan we should be looking at.
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uk_dave said:
The floors were 4 inches (100mm thick) cast concrete (non structural) on a corrugated steel (thin steel) deck supported on the floor trusses.
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Thank you for the correction. That makes it even more likely that the floors shattered on impact due to the fact that there were no iron inside the concrete itself (I believe it's called Rebar?).
 
Truthseeker

Think of the concrete floors as big sheets of glass.

Very heavy but also very fragile.

Now, go outside and have someone drop a sheet of glass on your head.

I gaurantee one of them will break.
 
The_Fire said:
Thank you for the correction. That makes it even more likely that the floors shattered on impact due to the fact that there were no iron inside the concrete itself (I believe it's called Rebar?).
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They may have had a mesh reinforcement, like a big net made up of thin steel bars welded at the intersections...but this would be to provide a degree of resistance against small amounts of deflection of the floor trusses and also to provide a degree of control over the thermal expansion and contraction of the concrete. There would also be movement joints in a floor of that size for that same purpose.
 
TruthSeeker1234 said:
You see, in the above picture, the twin towers appear to have been blown to kingdom come. The black building in the foreground is Banker's Trust, the twin towers together were about 7x as large Banker's Trust. Yet we see not a single floor assembly, none of the core, just shredded steel and dust, a smoldering bomb crater where WTC1 had stood.

Belief that the twin towers "fell down" or "collapsed" is just utterly divorced from reality. Gentleman, ladies, the only rational discussion at this point is what sort of explosives did this.
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God, I love it when people are almost totally reasonable. Really.

Consider if there is a hole where WTC 1 there had to be explosives well distributed through the core walls and foundation.

And, ......... absoulutely correct it is just utterly divorced from reality. to term this anything but an explosion
 
Somehow I don't think you guys are taking this seriously.

And you forgot to include gamera.
 
uk_dave said:
They may have had a mesh reinforcement, like a big net made up of thin steel bars welded at the intersections...but this would be to provide a degree of resistance against small amounts of deflection of the floor trusses and also to provide a degree of control over the thermal expansion and contraction of the concrete. There would also be movement joints in a floor of that size for that same purpose.
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In other words: No real structural importance?
 
Christophera said:
God, I love it when people are almost totally reasonable. Really.

Consider if there is a hole where WTC 1 there had to be explosives well distributed through the core walls and foundation.

And, ......... absoulutely correct it is just utterly divorced from reality. to term this anything but an explosion
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Am I the only one who doesn't get what in God's name this guy is rambling about? Except for his stupid picture he keeps on posting whenever he wants to say there was an explosion.
 
The_Fire said:
In other words: No real structural importance?
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If they had a structural capability then there would be no need for the floor trusses except to tie the external columns to the internal.

4 inch concrete over that span wouldn't even be able to support it's own weight let alone any live loads applied.

I would gestimate that a reinforced concrete floor over that span would probably be about 12 to 18 inches thick...maybe more.
 
Shrinker said:
What's taking so long? The explosives made no bang, made no flash, made no shockwave, broke no windows, made no fireball, left no residues, required no detonators, required no wiring, were flameproof, were detonated with split second precision, could be installed without anyone noticing, and had a destructive power greater than 300 tonnes of TNT. They were undetectable before, after or during detonation. How many candidates can there be?
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They made no bang because they were in concrete, they went boom and did not flash, and made no shockwaves that were easily detectable, were so well distributed that the residue was too finely spread, and detonators were installed in a well organized last moment powerdown where security cameras were off and the optimal placement and distribution caused destruction usually associated with much high quantities of explosives.

It can only be a steel reinforced concrete core with high explosives encapsulated inside of it.
 
Christophera said:
They made no bang because they were in concrete, they went boom and did not flash, and made no shockwaves that were easily detectable, were so well distributed that the residue was too finely spread, and detonators were installed in a well organized last moment powerdown where security cameras were off and the optimal placement and distribution caused destruction usually associated with much high quantities of explosives.

It can only be a steel reinforced concrete core with high explosives encapsulated inside of it.
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Ohhhkaay..

I'll pretend that made sense.
 
Garb said:
Am I the only one who doesn't get what in God's name this guy is rambling about? Except for his stupid picture he keeps on posting whenever he wants to say there was an explosion.
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No, I too have no idea of what he's trying to prove.
 
Christophera said:
They made no bang because they were in concrete, they went boom and did not flash, and made no shockwaves that were easily detectable, were so well distributed that the residue was too finely spread, and detonators were installed in a well organized last moment powerdown where security cameras were off and the optimal placement and distribution caused destruction usually associated with much high quantities of explosives.

It can only be a steel reinforced concrete core with high explosives encapsulated inside of it.
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Did the Keebler elves who did this, leave a trail of cookie crumbs? If so, what type of cookies were they? I've got $50 riding on vanilla wafers.
 
Crungy said:
Did the Keebler elves who did this, leave a trail of cookie crumbs? If so, what type of cookies were they? I've got $50 riding on vanilla wafers.
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We all know that the sulfur that was found in the rubble can only mean one thing: Oreos!!!
 
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