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Ed Moving On is coming.

Taliban & Al Qaeda. And while that is an opinion piece, the fact of it is that the US did allow Pakistan to fly thousands of unidentified Afghans, some believed to be Taliban & Al Qaeda fighters, out of the country before the invasion. That is a fact.

So where is Mullah Omar and company? Bin Laden & company?

And if you don't think it's a big deal then you should really find new news sources, go to the AP and read about Afghanistan daily. They you will have been informed of the huge Taliban resurgence which allowed them to regain control over the entire souther half of the country.

So what is the harm again? Just a few more flag draped coffins, nothing major huh?
If that's the fact of it, you should be able to provide confirmation of the fact rather than an opinion piece. Again, opinion is not fact. Also, please do not confuse the Taliban with Al Queda as they are two seperate entities.
 
I'm saddened that Russell, whom I think is an otherwise intelligent debater, can stoop to the tried-and-true tactic of throwing out dozens of bits of conjecture, half truths, irrelevancies, and easily explained coincidences and expecting them en masse to be considered evidence of conspiracy.

I realize he is outnumbered, but unless he stops right now, picks perhaps one of us, and starts at number 1 and answers the rebuttals to it, goes to number 2 and answers the rebuttals to it, and so on, he is simply just another CT using standard CT shotgun 'lots of mud on the wall hope something sticks' tactics.

I think the debate would be easier to follow if did what you suggested. It's all over the place :D
 
Wow! How the world turns.

I have spent some time thinking about my involvement here.

This is my honest opinion and not directed at anybody in particular. 98% of the people here have been very hospitable and well documented and I have learned new facts.

My feeling though is that there is a "It isn't so and it doesn't matter what you say it isn't ever going to be so" attitude here. Therefore I am going to limit my participation beyond my original plans of detailed presentations for the sake of time.

The request for direct proof or it isn't true is tantamount to JDX saying show me a video of the plane hitting or I'm not going to believe it.

The existence of the plane is inferred by evidence and I also believe the conspiracy behind 9/11 is as well. Both should be treated equally.

If my smoke detector is going off and I feel heat and my eyes are burning I am not going to wait until I see flame before I leave my house.

I will fulfill my word to LashL to respond to his post which I didn't do yesterday as I stated I would.

I have some work to do and it will take me a couple of days to also go back through certain things and respond to them. Again, for times sake I am not going to respond to every word of every post. I will select the items that I find pertinent or have information on.

Russell
 
Russell, I found this quote from you quite troubling:

My belief after my brief time here is that some are blindly supporting the people who did this.

Care to explain?

If you have no clear evidence that the "people who did this" are some other people than al Qaeda terrorists, how can you accuse us, or some of us, of supporting them, whoever "them" are?
 
The request for direct proof or it isn't true is tantamount to JDX saying show me a video of the plane hitting or I'm not going to believe it.
That's completely false, Russell. "Our" theory is entirely falsifiable. But if you want to show that what we believe are facts, are not, you'll need facts of your own. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. We have overwhelming evidence on "our" side. You have not presented a shred of hard evidence as a rebuttal.

So why, exactly, should there be a new investigation?
 
No.

So, you too chicken to support a new investigation if it would put all this conspiracy talk to rest?
No, Killtown. Go to it. What's stopping you? I look forward to reading your results.
 

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