Just an FYI, he was banned from the Internet Infidels forum as well, which is no small feat.
As a sidenote, whenever I see the letters 'TOS', I think Star Trek
Just an FYI, he was banned from the Internet Infidels forum as well, which is no small feat.
As a sidenote, whenever I see the letters 'TOS', I think Star Trek
nescafe
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Just an FYI, he was banned from the Internet Infidels forum as well, which is no small feat.
As a sidenote, whenever I see the letters 'TOS', I think Star Trek
Yeah, a quick Google for his handles and email addresses turns up all sorts of pointless bashing of Buddhism.
I also find his new signature deliciously ironic.
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Ask me about our world domination scheme!
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Indeed. I was the one who first quoted the Kalama sutra to him. It's my favorite sutra
RenaissanceBiker
Eats shoots and leaves.
He reminds me of the gay man who despises and denigrates gay men.
I wish him well.
I wish him well.
Here is one calling card from yours truly.
Thanks, Dancing David, for your interest in my publications [sic].
From the same reference provided by Dancing David, read this, everyone [from one self-publishing fellow questor of life and the universer, and for enjoyment, the scrutiny of Buddhism and Buddhists].
Smile here, everyone; that is why I love you guys because you -- although believing in Gautama, you exert efforts to bear with people who do find Gautma prosaic or pathetic), but specially I love James Randi and the folks operating this forum; just the same, I still believe a Buddhist and anyone who follows a religious leader like Gautama and Christ and L. Ron Hubbard should have no place among the mods and admins of this forum and any self-respecting forum advocating free thought and free speech.
Yrreg
=========================================
My words may not be soothing, but consider the ideas
The Buddhist non-self, and its implications, living the everyday non-self existence?
http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/ind...ost&pid=500486
[From the Kalama Sutra by Gautama]
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reasons and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.
See: http://www.buddhistinformation.com/the_kalama_sutra.htm
Thanks, Dancing David, for your interest in my publications [sic].
From the same reference provided by Dancing David, read this, everyone [from one self-publishing fellow questor of life and the universer, and for enjoyment, the scrutiny of Buddhism and Buddhists].
Yrreg said:
Smile here, everyone; that is why I love you guys because you -- although believing in Gautama, you exert efforts to bear with people who do find Gautma prosaic or pathetic), but specially I love James Randi and the folks operating this forum; just the same, I still believe a Buddhist and anyone who follows a religious leader like Gautama and Christ and L. Ron Hubbard should have no place among the mods and admins of this forum and any self-respecting forum advocating free thought and free speech.
Yrreg
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My words may not be soothing, but consider the ideas
The Buddhist non-self, and its implications, living the everyday non-self existence?
http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/ind...ost&pid=500486
[From the Kalama Sutra by Gautama]
1. Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it long ago.
2. Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
3. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
4. Do not confirm anything just because it agrees with your scriptures.
5. Do not foolishly make assumptions.
6. Do not abruptly draw conclusions by what you see and hear.
7. Do not be fooled by outward appearances.
8. Do not hold on tightly to any view or idea just because you are comfortable with it.
9. Do not accept as fact anything that you yourself find to be logical.
10. Do not be convinced of anything out of respect and deference to your spiritual teachers.
11. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
2. Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
3. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
4. Do not confirm anything just because it agrees with your scriptures.
5. Do not foolishly make assumptions.
6. Do not abruptly draw conclusions by what you see and hear.
7. Do not be fooled by outward appearances.
8. Do not hold on tightly to any view or idea just because you are comfortable with it.
9. Do not accept as fact anything that you yourself find to be logical.
10. Do not be convinced of anything out of respect and deference to your spiritual teachers.
11. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reasons and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.
See: http://www.buddhistinformation.com/the_kalama_sutra.htm
Piscivore
Smelling fishy
Yrregie, why don't you tell us what "free thought and free speech" mean to you, and explain where, when and how yours were abridged by the alleged Buddhist mod.
The difference between Islam and Buddhism.
Because the founder of Islam claims to get his ideas from an agent he calls Allah or God in English.
Gautama states that he gets his ideas from meditation by which he attains enlightenment or more historically and textually correct, awakening; that is why I find it more accessible to criticize him and his followers even though those just hitchhiking, than religious leaders like the founders of Islam and Christianity and Judaism.
Meditation requires the use or non-use of the brain, so every man who has a working brain will find Gautama and his followers most simple to examine in regard to their use or non-use of their brain, by using their brain, that is everyone non-Buddhist, in order to find where Gautama was using his brain or not, and his followers, even those who just go part way, i.e., hitchhikers in the vehicle of Buddhism.
Yrreg
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My words may not be soothing, but consider the ideas
The Buddhist non-self, and its implications, living the everyday non-self existence?
http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/ind...ost&pid=500486
[From the Kalama Sutra by Gautama]
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reasons and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.
See: http://www.buddhistinformation.com/the_kalama_sutra.htm
I wonder why you don't chose Islam to complain about? Are you chicken?
Because the founder of Islam claims to get his ideas from an agent he calls Allah or God in English.
Gautama states that he gets his ideas from meditation by which he attains enlightenment or more historically and textually correct, awakening; that is why I find it more accessible to criticize him and his followers even though those just hitchhiking, than religious leaders like the founders of Islam and Christianity and Judaism.
Meditation requires the use or non-use of the brain, so every man who has a working brain will find Gautama and his followers most simple to examine in regard to their use or non-use of their brain, by using their brain, that is everyone non-Buddhist, in order to find where Gautama was using his brain or not, and his followers, even those who just go part way, i.e., hitchhikers in the vehicle of Buddhism.
Yrreg
=========================================
My words may not be soothing, but consider the ideas
The Buddhist non-self, and its implications, living the everyday non-self existence?
http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/ind...ost&pid=500486
[From the Kalama Sutra by Gautama]
01. Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it long ago.
02. Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
03. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
04. Do not confirm anything just because it agrees with your scriptures.
05. Do not foolishly make assumptions.
06. Do not abruptly draw conclusions by what you see and hear.
07. Do not be fooled by outward appearances.
08. Do not hold on tightly to any view or idea just because you are comfortable with it.
09. Do not accept as fact anything that you yourself find to be logical.
10. Do not be convinced of anything out of respect and deference to your spiritual teachers.
11. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
02. Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
03. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
04. Do not confirm anything just because it agrees with your scriptures.
05. Do not foolishly make assumptions.
06. Do not abruptly draw conclusions by what you see and hear.
07. Do not be fooled by outward appearances.
08. Do not hold on tightly to any view or idea just because you are comfortable with it.
09. Do not accept as fact anything that you yourself find to be logical.
10. Do not be convinced of anything out of respect and deference to your spiritual teachers.
11. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reasons and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.
See: http://www.buddhistinformation.com/the_kalama_sutra.htm
Piscivore
Smelling fishy
So yrregie, clearly insane people, bald-faced liars, and fools are better mods than someone trying to use their brain?
Buddhism and Buddhists avoid dogmas and theology -- hahaha.
If it is not allowed for non-Buddhists to register and transmit messages then the owners should put it very clearly in their home page the notice:
But what do we read in the preamble of this E-Sangha website? Here, look at this below reproduced from their first paragraph after their flagship logo:
See? No dogmas, no theology.
It is very insincere for Buddhists of the West to portray themselves as open-minded and welcoming criticism, like Ryokan introducing me to the Kalama Sutra (see below) and telling me as the other Buddhists have done also, "If you meet the Buddha, kill him."
Then when you write anything critical of their beliefs and practices, they react with shrill peevish impatience, stringing words together without any sensible meaning but just to say something in explanation or defense, to show that you have no right to criticize them -- instead of considering your criticism from the standpoint of evidence and logic.
That is what makes it even more enjoyable to criticize Gautama, Buddhism, and Buddhists.
By the way that citation from Einstein is fake. I find Buddhists either not critical in repeating that spurious quotation from Einstein, or dishonest if they already know it is a counterfeit, seeking endorsement from Einstein where no endorsement had ever come from his writings or his lips.
I have pointed out that phoney quotation months earlier, when Buddhists brought it up here, in this forum.
Time and again I find Buddhists to be either sloppy in their scholarship or dishonest; that is my confirmed impression from discussions with Buddhists everywhere -- but I have dealt so far only with Westerners converted to Buddhism.
Yrreg
=========================================
My words may not be soothing, but consider the ideas
The Buddhist non-self, and its implications, living the everyday non-self existence?
http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/ind...ost&pid=500486
[From the Kalama Sutra by Gautama]
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reasons and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.
See: http://www.buddhistinformation.com/the_kalama_sutra.htm
The E-Sangha Forum is a daughter web message board welcoming all and sundry to register and contribute messages, it is not a church, the board that is.
If it is not allowed for non-Buddhists to register and transmit messages then the owners should put it very clearly in their home page the notice:
Exclusively for Buddhists only.
Non-Buddhists, keep out and stay out.
[Something like: Smoking is dangerous to your health.]Non-Buddhists, keep out and stay out.
But what do we read in the preamble of this E-Sangha website? Here, look at this below reproduced from their first paragraph after their flagship logo:
Buddhism Portal E-Sangha
http://www.e-sangha.com/
Buddhism has the characteristics of what would be expected in a cosmic religion for the future: it transcends a personal God, avoids dogmas and theology; it covers both the natural & spiritual, and it is based on a religious sense aspiring from the experience of all things, natural and spiritual, as a meaningful unity. - Albert Einstein
http://www.e-sangha.com/
Buddhism has the characteristics of what would be expected in a cosmic religion for the future: it transcends a personal God, avoids dogmas and theology; it covers both the natural & spiritual, and it is based on a religious sense aspiring from the experience of all things, natural and spiritual, as a meaningful unity. - Albert Einstein
See? No dogmas, no theology.
It is very insincere for Buddhists of the West to portray themselves as open-minded and welcoming criticism, like Ryokan introducing me to the Kalama Sutra (see below) and telling me as the other Buddhists have done also, "If you meet the Buddha, kill him."
Then when you write anything critical of their beliefs and practices, they react with shrill peevish impatience, stringing words together without any sensible meaning but just to say something in explanation or defense, to show that you have no right to criticize them -- instead of considering your criticism from the standpoint of evidence and logic.
That is what makes it even more enjoyable to criticize Gautama, Buddhism, and Buddhists.
By the way that citation from Einstein is fake. I find Buddhists either not critical in repeating that spurious quotation from Einstein, or dishonest if they already know it is a counterfeit, seeking endorsement from Einstein where no endorsement had ever come from his writings or his lips.
Religious Tolerance website said:
I have pointed out that phoney quotation months earlier, when Buddhists brought it up here, in this forum.
Time and again I find Buddhists to be either sloppy in their scholarship or dishonest; that is my confirmed impression from discussions with Buddhists everywhere -- but I have dealt so far only with Westerners converted to Buddhism.
Yrreg
=========================================
My words may not be soothing, but consider the ideas
The Buddhist non-self, and its implications, living the everyday non-self existence?
http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/ind...ost&pid=500486
[From the Kalama Sutra by Gautama]
01. Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it long ago.
02. Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
03. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
04. Do not confirm anything just because it agrees with your scriptures.
05. Do not foolishly make assumptions.
06. Do not abruptly draw conclusions by what you see and hear.
07. Do not be fooled by outward appearances.
08. Do not hold on tightly to any view or idea just because you are comfortable with it.
09. Do not accept as fact anything that you yourself find to be logical.
10. Do not be convinced of anything out of respect and deference to your spiritual teachers.
11. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
02. Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
03. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
04. Do not confirm anything just because it agrees with your scriptures.
05. Do not foolishly make assumptions.
06. Do not abruptly draw conclusions by what you see and hear.
07. Do not be fooled by outward appearances.
08. Do not hold on tightly to any view or idea just because you are comfortable with it.
09. Do not accept as fact anything that you yourself find to be logical.
10. Do not be convinced of anything out of respect and deference to your spiritual teachers.
11. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reasons and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.
See: http://www.buddhistinformation.com/the_kalama_sutra.htm
What is for me free thought and free speech.
Read my signature below. And I should add also free inquiry.
But I don't believe Gautama delivered the Kalama Sutra, because he wrote nothing, and the first writing ever to appear came more than four hundred years from his departure to his Nirvana loft.
Now, we know that humans when they do agree to put down anything in writing as a common statement like the Pali Canon, everyone wants to put down what he thinks is the best for mankind or the purpose they pursue together, and truest and most authentic and most important to bind themselves to, and to inform outsiders about what they hold to be binding on themselves and others they welcome to join them.
So, in order that every vip (very important person) follower of Gautama would be happy, who has very stubborn conviction of what Gautama really taught, though his contributions are contradictory and even irreconcilable to the as strenuous insistence of others in the drafting convention, everyone's thoughts get included.
Examine the words in the voluminous so-called triple baskets of the Pali Canon (and there are other scriptures claiming original authorship from Gautama), and you will come across incomprehensible mutually contradictory and irreconcilable utterances of Gautama,
The Kalama Sutra is actually a wholesale disclaimer by the guys confecting the Pali Canon not to take everything and anything therein seriously, as to explain and defend it endlessly, when they themselves are wondering what it all means in terms of evidence and logic, except that they feel that it must be something important if and when finally they understand it, if ever.
Yrreg
=========================================
My words may not be soothing, but consider the ideas
The Buddhist non-self, and its implications, living the everyday non-self existence?
http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/ind...ost&pid=500486
[From the Kalama Sutra by Gautama]
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reasons and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.
See: http://www.buddhistinformation.com/the_kalama_sutra.htm
Read my signature below. And I should add also free inquiry.
But I don't believe Gautama delivered the Kalama Sutra, because he wrote nothing, and the first writing ever to appear came more than four hundred years from his departure to his Nirvana loft.
Now, we know that humans when they do agree to put down anything in writing as a common statement like the Pali Canon, everyone wants to put down what he thinks is the best for mankind or the purpose they pursue together, and truest and most authentic and most important to bind themselves to, and to inform outsiders about what they hold to be binding on themselves and others they welcome to join them.
So, in order that every vip (very important person) follower of Gautama would be happy, who has very stubborn conviction of what Gautama really taught, though his contributions are contradictory and even irreconcilable to the as strenuous insistence of others in the drafting convention, everyone's thoughts get included.
Examine the words in the voluminous so-called triple baskets of the Pali Canon (and there are other scriptures claiming original authorship from Gautama), and you will come across incomprehensible mutually contradictory and irreconcilable utterances of Gautama,
The Kalama Sutra is actually a wholesale disclaimer by the guys confecting the Pali Canon not to take everything and anything therein seriously, as to explain and defend it endlessly, when they themselves are wondering what it all means in terms of evidence and logic, except that they feel that it must be something important if and when finally they understand it, if ever.
Yrreg
=========================================
My words may not be soothing, but consider the ideas
The Buddhist non-self, and its implications, living the everyday non-self existence?
http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/ind...ost&pid=500486
[From the Kalama Sutra by Gautama]
01. Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it long ago.
02. Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
03. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
04. Do not confirm anything just because it agrees with your scriptures.
05. Do not foolishly make assumptions.
06. Do not abruptly draw conclusions by what you see and hear.
07. Do not be fooled by outward appearances.
08. Do not hold on tightly to any view or idea just because you are comfortable with it.
09. Do not accept as fact anything that you yourself find to be logical.
10. Do not be convinced of anything out of respect and deference to your spiritual teachers.
11. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
02. Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
03. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
04. Do not confirm anything just because it agrees with your scriptures.
05. Do not foolishly make assumptions.
06. Do not abruptly draw conclusions by what you see and hear.
07. Do not be fooled by outward appearances.
08. Do not hold on tightly to any view or idea just because you are comfortable with it.
09. Do not accept as fact anything that you yourself find to be logical.
10. Do not be convinced of anything out of respect and deference to your spiritual teachers.
11. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reasons and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.
See: http://www.buddhistinformation.com/the_kalama_sutra.htm
Buddhists who are mods or admins here should resign out of delicadeza.*
Buddhists to my impression time and again confirmed have already been programmed like robots to look up to a being already proclaimed by previous followers to have been enlightened. Search the literature of Buddha-mania and read about the special powers of an enlightened being like Gautama to know who is what in previous existences or rebirths.
With all due respect, I think the owner of this forum, James Randi, and the operators here who are non-Buddhists should ask the Buddhist(s) who might have applied for and obtained offices of mods or admins, to resign; and the Buddhists should spontaneously resign out of delicadeza*.
Yrreg
=========================================
My words may not be soothing, but consider the ideas
The Buddhist non-self, and its implications, living the everyday non-self existence?
http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/ind...ost&pid=500486
[From the Kalama Sutra by Gautama]
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reasons and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.
See: http://www.buddhistinformation.com/the_kalama_sutra.htm
...Wow. Well, I guess we better make sure the moderators and admins are all robots then, because they clearly should not be allowed personal opinions. But wait, can you even place one on ignore? I though that was not possible...
Buddhists to my impression time and again confirmed have already been programmed like robots to look up to a being already proclaimed by previous followers to have been enlightened. Search the literature of Buddha-mania and read about the special powers of an enlightened being like Gautama to know who is what in previous existences or rebirths.
With all due respect, I think the owner of this forum, James Randi, and the operators here who are non-Buddhists should ask the Buddhist(s) who might have applied for and obtained offices of mods or admins, to resign; and the Buddhists should spontaneously resign out of delicadeza*.
*Delicadeza (Spanish), means a sense of conscientious scrupulosity on decency, propriety, integrity, disinterested attitude, whereby a person abstains or keeps quiet or resigns in order among other things not to be accused of conflict of interest. For example, people working for petrol corporations should not be applying for, or even just accepting appointments to offices in the national energy posts in the government.
Yrreg
=========================================
My words may not be soothing, but consider the ideas
The Buddhist non-self, and its implications, living the everyday non-self existence?
http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/ind...ost&pid=500486
[From the Kalama Sutra by Gautama]
01. Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it long ago.
02. Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
03. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
04. Do not confirm anything just because it agrees with your scriptures.
05. Do not foolishly make assumptions.
06. Do not abruptly draw conclusions by what you see and hear.
07. Do not be fooled by outward appearances.
08. Do not hold on tightly to any view or idea just because you are comfortable with it.
09. Do not accept as fact anything that you yourself find to be logical.
10. Do not be convinced of anything out of respect and deference to your spiritual teachers.
11. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
02. Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
03. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
04. Do not confirm anything just because it agrees with your scriptures.
05. Do not foolishly make assumptions.
06. Do not abruptly draw conclusions by what you see and hear.
07. Do not be fooled by outward appearances.
08. Do not hold on tightly to any view or idea just because you are comfortable with it.
09. Do not accept as fact anything that you yourself find to be logical.
10. Do not be convinced of anything out of respect and deference to your spiritual teachers.
11. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reasons and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.
See: http://www.buddhistinformation.com/the_kalama_sutra.htm
nescafe
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Indeed. I was the one who first quoted the Kalama sutra to him. It's my favorite sutra
That is the delicious irony bit.
Dancing David
Penultimate Amazing
So if buddha didn't discover the middle path through meditation and he didn't recieve hsi message from god, that leaves what.
A person blissful in thier ignorance who would like the teaching of the buddha more if there was a claim it came from god.
Well Yrreg, I knew you were taking this all back to your bible study class, you denied it but your agenda has become plain, you are a Xian apologist who would accept the word of god over your own ability to understand and reason.
A person blissful in thier ignorance who would like the teaching of the buddha more if there was a claim it came from god.
Well Yrreg, I knew you were taking this all back to your bible study class, you denied it but your agenda has become plain, you are a Xian apologist who would accept the word of god over your own ability to understand and reason.
prewitt81
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trvlr2
Muse
My four Noble Truths:
1.Life is not "fair".
2.Life is not "moral".
3.Everyone is naked under their clothes.
4. Nobody gets out alive.
1.Life is not "fair".
2.Life is not "moral".
3.Everyone is naked under their clothes.
4. Nobody gets out alive.
CaptainManacles
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Apparently he's a bigot, therefore all Buddhists should be kicked out.
Yerrg, please see http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bigot
Mojo
Mostly harmless
3rd Commendation to owner/operators of JREF Forum.
So far so good, I have not been thrown out by the powers here in JREF. I have been testing the limit of their non-Buddhistic impartiality, and so far that limit has not been reached by me, which is a great tribute to the powers here.
You see, sometimes the Buddhists among the powers that be in a forum dedicated to free inquiry, free thought, and free speech cannot prevail on the non-Buddhist ones to throw out someone who makes it a forum career to criticize Gautama, Buddhism, and Buddhists.
But owing to complaints from Buddhist members of the forum, eventually they, the non-Buddhist owners, admins, and mods, have to give in to the insistence of their fellow admins and mods who are Buddhists and from the complaints of Buddhist members of the forum, because they notice that login statistics are declining with every complaint against the career critic of Buddhism and things Buddhist.
So far, the owner/admins/mods have not succumbed to the complaints of Buddhist members here and have not been influenced by declining statistics of login numbers, hail to them.
But the time will come, specially if they set great store on the donations of Buddhist members to operate their forum, then and with me not heeding warnings, I would be thrown out of this JREF Forum -- i.e., again: unless the JREF does not depend on contributions from members for existence and operation, and also they are not swayed by declining statistics owing to Buddhist members complaining against fellow members who criticize Buddhism relentlessly but on sound grounds.
In brief, I will be around as long as the JREF Forum is around provided the non-Buddhist owner/admins/mods of the forum are not influenced by numerical popularity and not either on loss of donations; because they can do without numerical popularity and without donations from members, owing to because they have this policy of sticking come hell and high water to the ideals of free inquiry, free thought, and free speech.
So, and again: all hail to the [non-Buddhist] owner/admins/mods of the JREF Forum.
Yrreg
=========================================
My words may not be soothing, but consider the ideas
The Buddhist non-self, and its implications, living the everyday non-self existence?
http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/ind...ost&pid=500486
[From the Kalama Sutra by Gautama]
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reasons and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.
See: http://www.buddhistinformation.com/the_kalama_sutra.htm
So far so good, I have not been thrown out by the powers here in JREF. I have been testing the limit of their non-Buddhistic impartiality, and so far that limit has not been reached by me, which is a great tribute to the powers here.
You see, sometimes the Buddhists among the powers that be in a forum dedicated to free inquiry, free thought, and free speech cannot prevail on the non-Buddhist ones to throw out someone who makes it a forum career to criticize Gautama, Buddhism, and Buddhists.
But owing to complaints from Buddhist members of the forum, eventually they, the non-Buddhist owners, admins, and mods, have to give in to the insistence of their fellow admins and mods who are Buddhists and from the complaints of Buddhist members of the forum, because they notice that login statistics are declining with every complaint against the career critic of Buddhism and things Buddhist.
So far, the owner/admins/mods have not succumbed to the complaints of Buddhist members here and have not been influenced by declining statistics of login numbers, hail to them.
But the time will come, specially if they set great store on the donations of Buddhist members to operate their forum, then and with me not heeding warnings, I would be thrown out of this JREF Forum -- i.e., again: unless the JREF does not depend on contributions from members for existence and operation, and also they are not swayed by declining statistics owing to Buddhist members complaining against fellow members who criticize Buddhism relentlessly but on sound grounds.
In brief, I will be around as long as the JREF Forum is around provided the non-Buddhist owner/admins/mods of the forum are not influenced by numerical popularity and not either on loss of donations; because they can do without numerical popularity and without donations from members, owing to because they have this policy of sticking come hell and high water to the ideals of free inquiry, free thought, and free speech.
So, and again: all hail to the [non-Buddhist] owner/admins/mods of the JREF Forum.
Yrreg
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My words may not be soothing, but consider the ideas
The Buddhist non-self, and its implications, living the everyday non-self existence?
http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/ind...ost&pid=500486
[From the Kalama Sutra by Gautama]
01. Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it long ago.
02. Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
03. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
04. Do not confirm anything just because it agrees with your scriptures.
05. Do not foolishly make assumptions.
06. Do not abruptly draw conclusions by what you see and hear.
07. Do not be fooled by outward appearances.
08. Do not hold on tightly to any view or idea just because you are comfortable with it.
09. Do not accept as fact anything that you yourself find to be logical.
10. Do not be convinced of anything out of respect and deference to your spiritual teachers.
11. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
02. Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
03. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
04. Do not confirm anything just because it agrees with your scriptures.
05. Do not foolishly make assumptions.
06. Do not abruptly draw conclusions by what you see and hear.
07. Do not be fooled by outward appearances.
08. Do not hold on tightly to any view or idea just because you are comfortable with it.
09. Do not accept as fact anything that you yourself find to be logical.
10. Do not be convinced of anything out of respect and deference to your spiritual teachers.
11. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reasons and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.
See: http://www.buddhistinformation.com/the_kalama_sutra.htm
Piscivore
Smelling fishy
What a dizzying effluvium of fantasy that was. And it is *I* that wishes to be a fiction author...