Okay, Ryokan, Dancing David, and all Buddhists here and Buddhism sympathizers, let us all go to the benefits obtained by embracing and practicing Buddhism, benefits namely on this side of the grave.
You see, it is inane to discuss about benefits on the other side of the grave; being all of us here presumably skeptics, there is so far no way we can know what is our existence if any on the other side of the grave, on the ground of evidence and logic acceptable to rational skeptics; so please let us not not bother about benefits on the other grave of the grave.
Here, tell me, Buddhists and Buddhism sympathizers here, what have you obtained or attained or enjoyed so far of decrease in all kinds of sufferings on this side of the grave?
Name just five (5) concrete instances of decrease in suffering on all levels and domains of human existence and life, on this side of the grave, experienced by Buddhists and Buddhism sympathizers.
Yrreg