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Breaking news, small plane hit NY building

At LC forum, the news of the passport discovery is met with cries of disbelief and general cognative dissonance.
 
boloboffin said:
CNN just reported that they found Cory Lidle's passport in the street.
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At first I thought this was a bad joke but apparently it's true. You know the Deniers are going to go absolutely nuts over this.

BTW, here's an article about Lidle & his plane from the NY Times a month ago:

A player-pilot is still a sensitive topic for the Yankees, whose captain, Thurman Munson, was killed in the crash of a plane he was flying in 1979. Lidle, acquired from the Philadelphia Phillies on July 30, said his plane was safe.

“The whole plane has a parachute on it,” Lidle said. “Ninety-nine percent of pilots that go up never have engine failure, and the 1 percent that do usually land it. But if you’re up in the air and something goes wrong, you pull that parachute, and the whole plane goes down slowly.”
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Bell said:
The two fires compare in no way to each other. WTC7 had uncontrolled fires over multiple floors. Also, there was a huge hole in WTC7. Read Gravy's paper, allready?
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I had some trouble opening Gravy's toilet paper, maybe that's why I'm not trying to share a real truth movement with you.
And Bell, from the pictures I posted it would appear as if I know that there were small fires on multiple floors, and the reason I posted the images was to point out the fact that they WERE uncontrolled.
Apparently it still doesn't raise the question with this forum as to WHY those fires were left to burn unattended.

slingblade said:
From two pictures? Could you please get real? Two photos is not enough data for anything this complex.

You irk me. If you want an answer, go ask the people who actually know. Why the heck would you want to reveal how gullible you are by asking non-experts to give an expert opinion they aren't remotely qualified to give? Will you just believe any old thing, from any old person?

Sheesh.
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I irk you?
that's funny.

Will you look at the fire from today and compare it to the fires that burned in tower 7 prior to it's collapse? It's far from being considered as a complex task.


one more thing, Bell... the hole in tower 7 was not on fire. :D
 
Submersible - this thread is about the plane that crashed today. If you wish to discuss WTC7, there are plenty of other threads.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Lisa Simpson
 
Submersible said:
http://italy.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/04/wtc7-fires-close.jpg

Fires this size can be knocked down with ONE 2 1/2 inch hand line and 4 men.
ONE hose team could have been sent to each floor where these relatively small fires were burning,
and I was repeatedly insulted in the LC 4 thread because I KNOW that being a firefighter does not in any way resemble a SPECTATOR SPORT.


Maybe now some of you can see that, since you have such a fine example to compare the two fires, and the FDNY's response to a similar structure.
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If nothing else, you should go to www.debunking911.com and read the firemens' statements that are quoted there. They report numerous creakings and noises from 7, combined with the building tilting and being severely damaged. Firemen were concerned that the building would collapse hours before it happened.
 
Brainster said:
At first I thought this was a bad joke but apparently it's true. You know the Deniers are going to go absolutely nuts over this.
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Here's your sign!
By Batmuncher@LC
this may or may not be a deliberate act, but something seems awfully wrong here.
the situation is still fluid, so to all you debunkers, you seem awfully ready to accept the government story without any questions.
let's research it first, shall we.
the passport thing alone is enough to say" where have we heard that one before?"
i want to know more.....................
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These people are beyond nuts!
 
boloboffin said:
At LC forum, the news of the passport discovery is met with cries of disbelief and general cognative dissonance.
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Let me guess: it's a fake passport, the illuminati kidnapped him and planted it so it will look like it's an accident.
 
Skeptic said:
Let me guess: it's a fake passport, the illuminati kidnapped him and planted it so it will look like it's an accident.
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Actually it's more "It's made of paper!" and "Why does he have a Passport with him!?!?"

ETA: And the spinning eyes smiley.
 
I like the conspiracy theorists' logic: if the building had collapsed, it would "prove" it's a Bushitler/Cheney/Halliburton "October Surprise" conspiracy, "just like" 9/11, "proving" 9/11 was a conspiracy. Now that it didn't collapse, it "proves" the FDNY could have stopped the WTC from collapsing if they really wanted to, "proving" 9/11 was a conspiracy.

Idiots.
 
Skeptic said:
Let me guess: it's a fake passport, the illuminati kidnapped him and planted it so it will look like it's an accident.
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Close. Actually, they report that if you flip 10/11/06 upside down, it becomes 9/11/01, and that the Illuminati like number symbolism.

To be fair, others point out that flipping 10/11/06 does not yield 9/11, but others respond , ya, but it's still unsettling!!!
 
roger said:
Close. Actually, they report that if you flip 10/11/06 upside down, it becomes 9/11/01, and that the Illuminati like number symbolism.

To be fair, others point out that flipping 10/11/06 does not yield 9/11, but others respond , ya, but it's still unsettling!!!
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...Wow....
 
Redtail said:
Actually it's more "It's made of paper!" and "Why does he have a Passport with him!?!?"

ETA: And the spinning eyes smiley.
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Here you go...

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truly pathetic. this is a tragic event, and thos nutballs are playing it down to a conspiracy.

OH WHY oh why can't their be legal retroactive abortion?
 
roger said:
Close. Actually, they report that if you flip 10/11/06 upside down, it becomes 9/11/01, and that the Illuminati like number symbolism.

To be fair, others point out that flipping 10/11/06 does not yield 9/11, but others respond , ya, but it's still unsettling!!!
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Geez... what more proof do we need?
 
defaultdotxbe said:
those were classified 12 alarm fires, damage to the WTC complex resulted in a lack of water pressure

todays was a 4 alarm, there was no problem getting water to the fires

do the math
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maybe your right.

http://www.sname.org/newsletter/fireboat.pdf#search="fdny fireboats 9/11"

I guess the FDNY had a good reason to waste the available water that was provided by the fire boats on the collapsed buildings instead of the one that was still standing, with relatively small fires throughout the structure.
As much respect as they deserve, apparently some of the people in charge of the scene responded as if they were stupid. Much like the Commissioner who has not responded to the Port Authority tapes that were released proving that the reason so many firemen died in tower 1, was NOT due to a repeater failure.

It might have been classified as a 12 alarm fire one minute before it fell out of the sky, but it damn sure didn't start that way.

http://www.evesmag.com/firefighters.htm
New York City firefighters are still equipped with hand-held radios that don’t work in skyscrapers or subways, and other critical instances such as large schools and hospitals. The problem was first identified in 1993, when terrorists tried to bomb one of the Twin Towers off its foundation. Eight years later, sent into the WTC with those same failed radios, scores of firefighters died when they did not hear repeated orders to evacuate the buildings. To this date, everything the Fire Department has done to remedy the radio situation has been bungled, in a long-running civic scandal that no one wants to fully investigate. No one. Not anyone in law enforcement. Not anyone in the press. Not anyone at FDNY headquarters or City Hall or Albany or Washington. Shame on all of them. Someone is responsible for the deaths of all those firefighters, and the continuing jeopardy to every firefighter today, and no one wants to know who, what, when, where, why or how.
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