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Jailhouse Justice

Polaris said:
Here's the crocodile tears part: yeah, rule of law should apply and justice should be in the hands of 12 citizens, blah blah blah...
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You have a strange way of defending American values.

... Or maybe you don't like them? :confused:
 
I find it hard to shed a tear but it does seem to fit with cruel and unusual.
 
RandFan said:
I find it hard to shed a tear but it does seem to fit with cruel and unusual.
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It is, if it was done or purposefully allowed to happen by the guards or some other representative of the state. Otherwise, the state is only guilty of not preventing it from happening.
 
Bjorn said:
You have a strange way of defending American values.

... Or maybe you don't like them? :confused:
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I think all convicted pedophile murderers should be taken out behind the courthouse and shot in the neck. The fact that he's alive and Katie's isn't justice.
 
Number Six said:
What I find interesting is that whoever did it took the time to put an apostrophe in "Katie's."
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:)

The lettering is very neat, too. Almost like it was typeset. Must have been a branding iron. Looks like it. His forehead is all red and there appears to be a burn mark on the left side.

Not too surprising to me. I've been doing volunteer work in prisons for about a decade. Inmates are incredibly ingenious. Regular MacGyver's, they are.
 
Upchurch said:
Of course, I have no idea what level of security this particular prison was providing, but I doubt a child molester gets the country club prison.
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The Wabash Valley Correctional Facility that this guy is in has all levels of facilities. Minimum security. Low medium security. High medium security. And maximum security.

No way of knowing which one he was in. All but the maximum security are dormitory style facilities.

An inmate can go weeks without interacting with a guard in a less-than-maximum facility.
 
I have no sympathy for the scumbag, but out of respect for rule of law I would see it investigated.

It is torture/humiliation, and while I don't care much about the victim, it means there's a torturer involved and I want to get them too.
 
Polaris said:
I think all convicted pedophile murderers should be taken out behind the courthouse and shot in the neck. The fact that he's alive and Katie's isn't justice.
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I thought so.

However, when you posted this:

"Here's the crocodile tears part: yeah, rule of law should apply and justice should be in the hands of 12 citizens, blah blah blah..."

... It sounded like the rule of law should NOT apply and justice should NOT be in the hands of 12 citizens.

Maybe you're from Iran, or China, what do I know.
 
BPSCG said:
I'll bet the rest of my paychecks for the rest of my life against a tuna sandwich that he wasn't sentenced to be tortured. And that's what this amounts to.
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I hate to burst your little bubble, but a sentence of life in prison is a sentence of torture. Ever been in prison?
 
Bjorn said:
I thought so.

However, when you posted this:

"Here's the crocodile tears part: yeah, rule of law should apply and justice should be in the hands of 12 citizens, blah blah blah..."

... It sounded like the rule of law should NOT apply and justice should NOT be in the hands of 12 citizens.

Maybe you're from Iran, or China, what do I know.
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If I was from Iran I'd probably be saying Katie deserved it for being a prostitute who dared show some neck.

I put it that way because I felt obligated to say it, but deep down I'm glad the scum-sucker got a cruel and unusual punishment (less than he deserved but more than most filth like him usually get) that the courts aren't allowed to dish out. It's rare that justice like this gets served, so when it happens (Abu Nidal, Jeffrey Dahmer, Uday and Qusay Hussein, and now this piece of garbage) I'm sorry, but I celebrate it.
 
Polaris said:
I'm sorry, but I celebrate it.
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This is gonna sound contrary to my last post, but that's just insane.

Why? Because the conditions that allow this to happen also allow men who don't deserve ill-treatment to be abused.
 
Polaris said:
... deep down I'm glad the scum-sucker got a cruel and unusual punishment ...
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I thought so. And when you wrote:

"Yeah, rule of law ... justice ... blah blah blah..."

... obviously it wasn't a slip of the tongue.

You remind me of people who believe free speech apply only to people they agree with.
 
The point is that we all feel that this is what this person deserved (if not worse), but we would not like a justice or jail system that allows such things to happen. So, no, I don't feel sorry for this guy one bit, but I am worried that it shows the prison system isn't protecting at-risk inmate as it should.

Of course, one "in the headlines" case doesn't mean the prison system really isn't doing that. In fact, considering the number of sex offenders in jail and the hatered of other inmates towards them, it seems inevitable that once in a while something like this would occur.
 
Interesting to see the responses to this story on other forums. I subscribe to a couple of weapon and police-oriented forums, and on those the sentiment is strictly along the lines of "he got what he deserved".

As for myself, that odd rather-liberal police officer, I think along the lines of "why was this guy placed in the general population?" It's well known that such offenders are often the targets of violence; seems incumbent upon prison officials to take some reasonable precautions.

Of course, there is little good to be said about the US penal system in general; it's becoming a warehouse for the insane among other things.
 
Bikewere, it might be better to give this type of scum their own prison.

But where to put it.......
 
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