Loose Change - Part IV

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um, have you looked at any of the moussaoui trial pictures of "remains" of jumpers. Theses people fell, likely to maximum velocity, then hit pavement/concrete.

small mounds of unrecognizable, bloody flesh was all that was left. And this was only 25% the speed that the plane was going, and it was not reinforced concrete...

Those pics are a somewhat better idea of what would be left...
 
Well it sure wouldn't be a big a** plane. could be many things but if they SHOWED US WHAT IT WAS maybe we would not be having this dumb discussion don't you think? That is the problem if there was nothing to hide why would they hide it?
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Why don't you call, or go to the Sheraton Hotel and ask them. They watched it more than once. The other tapes showed little to nothing ,I would bet! Only they could show it to you anyway. See Zapruder!
 
Dog Town said:
We all have a price. What's yours, and what are you share'en?
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First of all I DO NOT HAVE A PRICE, the TRUTH is for FREE, but I have learned to be careful whom I share it with. Learned that the hard way.

But the attitude you show, is shared with most and if you changed the EVERYONE TO MOST you would be correct. But then again I am NOT everyone, I am me and I do NOT have a price.

And also that idea that everyone has a price is what leads people to think they can get away with murder.

And I know of stories where people fell from a long way up and survived it to walk another day. Surviving it is a rarity but not an impossiblity.

TK
 
Yes, I think the whole "plane hit the pentagon" issue could be solved once and for all by talking to the hotel employees who watched the "tape" in horror.

Now if they watched a plane hit, they would be horrified. If they watched a missile hit, I think, out of all of them, knowing the whole world had the wrong story, that one of them would have come forward and said..."you are all wrong, it was a missile!!" but no, not one did.
 
And I know of stories where people fell from a long way up and survived it to walk another day. Surviving it is a rarity but not an impossiblity.
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Point?

BTW Cowboys score again! 17 to doughnutttt!
 
T.A.M. said:
Sir Knight;

It would be more convincing to most of us if you told it to someone in here that most people respect and trust, in terms of validating or refuting your claims, such as gumboot, or Gravy, or many of the others. If they come on here, after you have told them everything, and they have had a chance to verify it, or you have verified it for them, and then they finally come here, and tell us the scenario, without divulging details, and they tell us they believe it...it would go along way.
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Well that was my original intention actually, but you miss one very important point, it isn't who you trust, it would be who I can trust. It is my life on the line and not yours. When your life is on the line I will let you choose. Fair?
 
fair...but if you choose to tell someone, and it is someone who is also not trusted in here, then you cannot expect it to hold much weight. Likewise, if they cannot give us anything more than "I believe him" no details, no back up evidence, than it will not likely carry much weight here.
 
Dog Town said:
Why don't you call, or go to the Sheraton Hotel and ask them. They watched it more than once. The other tapes showed little to nothing ,I would bet! Only they could show it to you anyway. See Zapruder!
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I still don't see how any camera from the Sheraton National Hotel could have picked up the crash at the Pentagon. I've stayed at this hotel and I could see no cameras on the side facing the Pentagon. If they were there, I don't see what they would point them at, besides the small bus parking lot across the street, but that would not capture the Pentagon.
 
And also that idea that everyone has a price is what leads people to think they can get away with murder.
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Dramatic aren't we? Thesbian perhaps, work much?/sarcasm.
Have you called the Hotel yet?
 
T.A.M. said:
Yes, I think the whole "plane hit the pentagon" issue could be solved once and for all by talking to the hotel employees who watched the "tape" in horror.

Now if they watched a plane hit, they would be horrified. If they watched a missile hit, I think, out of all of them, knowing the whole world had the wrong story, that one of them would have come forward and said..."you are all wrong, it was a missile!!" but no, not one did.
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I wish it was that simple, but if someone saying he was from the Gov visited you and told you that this had to do with national security and you could not talk to anyone or you would pay, would you talk? And if you did everyone might lable you are a nut case anyway SINCE THEY TOOK THE TAPE so you would have NO PROOF to back up your claims. Think about it, we do not live in the perfect world where the truth remains supreme.
I could be one of those people who saw the tape and you would say well show me the tape and I don't have it. There you go.....
 
Sir Knight:

I agree, that IF they were told not to speak about what they saw to anyone, that there would be pressure not to speak, but (a) I have seen no proof that they were all told this, and (b) Whistleblowers under equal pressure come forward all the time, yet not one has come forward from that group of employees.
 
T.A.M. said:
fair...but if you choose to tell someone, and it is someone who is also not trusted in here, then you cannot expect it to hold much weight. Likewise, if they cannot give us anything more than "I believe him" no details, no back up evidence, than it will not likely carry much weight here.
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Well you missed my point once again. When it comes to my life I will do the choosing and you haven't given me a reason to feel otherwise. I have asked on here if there was anyone who could actually do something to help me or have contacts etc and I get nothing. So if what I say is true what good would me exposing myself to anyone of you do me but take a bigger risk that I already have? And I am not sure that YOU are qualified to tell me who to trust for it would be just your opinion at this point and I would have to take a poll to find out the person who would be the best one. Which would be a joke on here I can assure you of that.
 
A poll would be a good start, but it is moot, since I assume you have already found someone to talk to on the matter (since you said you found some caring people via PMing them).
 
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