Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

[aggle-rithm]

For comparison, a video of WTC 7 collapsing:
From MSNBC

This video was very telling. In contrast to the CTer's who insist it's a big mystery as to why WTC7 fell, no one in this video seemed surprised. Horrified, of course, but it was clearly not unexpected.

I guess they didn't have the benefit of all the CT websites to do "research", or they would have known it wasn't badly damaged and shouldn't have fallen...

 

[fuelair]

Maxim:
If a suppossed explantion does not explain the event, it is not the truth. No explanation that does not explain the event can be the truth.

So far no explanation in existence explains free fall and total pulverization of the towers appears to exist. Has anyone seen one?

You keep saying this has been explained to you. What idiots explained it - I ask because they clearly have no knowledge of physics, materials design/ structural analysis, physics/chemistry of explosives/flammables etc. that are integral to studying this (on the other hand , there were similar incompetants arguing that the OK City blast could not have occurred as stated either). I used two words with negative connotation in my text. Unless you are a troll, in which the phrase useless slime would need to be added to the list, think over the two AND learn enough to not be misled/falsely used by those who are those words so you won't be them.

 

[kevin]

I'll tell you what I just noticed.... There's a newbie over on the "Welcome New Meat" thread. Christopher7. (I was relatively polite....)

What worries me is that if we've been talking to (at?) ChristopherA and the new guy's Christopher7, are we going to encounter ChristopherB through Z and then Christopher1 through 6?

Arrrrgggghhhh!

if we're lucky maybe they're in hex -- christopher1 thorough F

 

[Christophera]

W. Roderiguez Saved A Guy That Emerged From Stair Saying

"The walls are blowing up." He had skin and burnt flesh hanging from him.

There were explosions in the basement at plane impact, WTC 1

Christophera - Please explain how someone can break through a concrete core with a squeegee.

http://www.ukrweekly.com/Archive/2002/260204.shtml

Kevin, please find the other account where the surviors broke through the drywall to find concrete.

Some stairwells had elevators on the outside the drywall on one wall with concrete outside on another wall. One stairwell per tower had elevators or hallways on 3 sides of the well the other 2 had elevators or hallways on 2 sides.

 

[MortFurd]

"The walls are blowing up." He had skin and burnt flesh hanging from him.

There were explosions in the basement at plane impact, WTC 1

Kevin, please find the other account where the surviors broke through the drywall to find concrete.

Some stairwells had elevators on the outside the drywall on one wall with concrete outside on another wall. One stairwell per tower had elevators or hallways on 3 sides of the well the other 2 had elevators or hallways on 2 sides.

Your site provides no proof. Where is a cite to back up the text you have posted? Did you personally interview these people? Did you get the quotes from a newspaper, an interview on TV, where did they come from?


Christophera:
Refer to "The Presidents of the United States of America," album by the same name, track 2, refrain.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Notice, that in all the posts criticizing my web site with its prolific uses of raw evidence, the is not one piece of evidence used. All just words.

Her are some words from firefighters that I will believe, because their brothers were killed in a high speed series of detonations that raced to the ground at a rate just slightly faster than free fall.

http://algoxy.com/psych/images/discussion_in_firehouse.mpg

Watch the critics try to twist the words of these good men speaking the truth, and they will do so with no evidence again and again. The thousands of innocent Americans that died on 9-11 are nothing to them. The tens of thousands who have died in the wars illegally waged and paid for by more innocent Americans, . . . . YOU, . . . . . . are nothing to them.

They act on some great fear hidden deep inside themselves. A fear of the truth, knowing it or allowing anybody else to know it.

Again, are you well? I'll guess it can be frustrating to find one's cherished hypotheses so discredited and dismissed, but there's no need to let it affect your health.

Whenever you're feeling up to it, let's once again address your buildings-fell-in-the-wrong-order claim, which we had been discussing before you were suspended (not banned) here*. Wouldn't that be pleasant?

Also, I remain curious as to your plans for presenting your various materials to one or more professional structural engineers.

*In addition, an admission that you were mistaken when you claimed on the phsyorg forum that you were banned, not to mention an apology to me for your unprovoked personal attacks, would be appropriate, don't you think?

 

[kevin]

Kevin, please find the other account where the surviors broke through the drywall to find concrete.

Some stairwells had elevators on the outside the drywall on one wall with concrete outside on another wall. One stairwell per tower had elevators or hallways on 3 sides of the well the other 2 had elevators or hallways on 2 sides.

I'm sorry, you're the one claiming these exist. Please provide proof that this was the elevator layout.

 

[Belz...]

"The walls are blowing up." He had skin and burnt flesh hanging from him.

Well, I guess explosions mean bombs, every time. Of course, it has been explained to you many times.

Are you a posting-bot ?

Kevin, please find the other account where the surviors broke through the drywall to find concrete.

You want US to do YOUR research ?

Some stairwells had elevators on the outside the drywall on one wall with concrete outside on another wall. One stairwell per tower had elevators or hallways on 3 sides of the well the other 2 had elevators or hallways on 2 sides.

You mean invisicrete(tm)*


*: Can someone tell me how you put letters as exponents ?

 

[Christophera]

You want US to do YOUR research ?

No, I already did it, I ust ask that you complete yours.

Basically until you show that there were steel core columns inside the core from images of the demolition from an elevation above ground, you have no credibility except as disinformationalists. The more you post without evidence, the more certain that is.

I have the evidence of the Concrete Core all assembled for you and everyone else.

FEMA lied and you are supporting their lie. How's it feel?

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

No, I already did it, I ust ask that you complete yours.

Basically until you show that there were steel core columns inside the core from images of the demolition from an elevation above ground, you have no credibility except as disinformationalists. The more you post without evidence, the more certain that is.

I have the evidence of the Concrete Core all assembled for you and everyone else.

FEMA lied and you are supporting their lie. How's it feel?

Argumentum ad ignorantiam and argumentum ad nauseum.

 

[Gravy]

You mean invisicrete(tm)*

Invisicrete!

 

[MortFurd]

No, I already did it, I ust ask that you complete yours.

Basically until you show that there were steel core columns inside the core from images of the demolition from an elevation above ground, you have no credibility except as disinformationalists. The more you post without evidence, the more certain that is.

I have the evidence of the Concrete Core all assembled for you and everyone else.

FEMA lied and you are supporting their lie. How's it feel?

You have a bunch drawings that you (or your cohorts) have produced that are of such low quality as to embarass a high school student who has just begun learning CAD.

You accuse others of lying, when your only proof comes from your own fantasies. How's it feel?


Did you look up the reference?

 

[Belz...]

No, I already did it, I ust ask that you complete yours.

Chris. You didn't DO research. You just remembered a documentary you've seen 20 years ago.

Basically until you show that there were steel core columns inside the core from images of the demolition from an elevation above ground, you have no credibility except as disinformationalists.

Well, we HAVE shown you those columns, but you keep mislabeling them. Must have something to do with your knee-jerk reflex to call any and all unidentified pixels in an image "concrete".

FEMA lied and you are supporting their lie. How's it feel?

Yet another appeal to emotion ?

 

[CptColumbo]

FEMA lied and you are supporting their lie. How's it feel?

BTW, why did you lie?

 

[kevin]

No, I already did it, I ust ask that you complete yours.

I did, there are no stories of people running into concrete walls after escaping from elevators through drywall. There are no floor plans showing elevators outside of the core. There are no plans showing a concrete core. There is no documentary claiming there is a concrete core.

Basically until you show that there were steel core columns inside the core from images of the demolition from an elevation above ground, you have no credibility except as disinformationalists. The more you post without evidence, the more certain that is.

Pictures have been shown. Structural plans have been shown. Quotes from the structural engineer have been provided. Until you provide real evidence, not memories of a non-existent documentary, not pictures of drywall installations claiming concrete, not pictures of smoke, you're nothing but a liar.

I have the evidence of the Concrete Core all assembled for you and everyone else.

You have no evidence there. See http://noconcrete.741.com

FEMA lied and you are supporting their lie. How's it feel?

It's a good thing I go by the NIST report not the FEMA report. And it certainly shows you out to be the liar. Hows it feel to be a liar?

 

[Christophera]

No Evidence For Steel Core Columns

You have a bunch drawings that you (or your cohorts) have produced that are of such low quality as to embarass a high school student who has just begun learning CAD.

You accuse others of lying, when your only proof comes from your own fantasies. How's it feel?


Did you look up the reference?

Notice that what I have is many times more than what you have.

3" REBAR ON 4' CENTERS

 

[Christophera]

Misinterpretations Of Construction Photos

Concrete![qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/879044e6c65e64d34.jpg[/qimg]​

That must be WTC 2, and the concrete core is there. WTC 2 had 2 hallways in each direction whereas WTC only had 1 hallway in one direction on every other floor.

Concrete![qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/879044e6c6b81fcef.jpg[/qimg]​

Notice that only 7 floors show light through. I know that only 7 floors weer allowed over the top of the concrete core. Notice that ther are no multiple steel core columns with the density and size FEMA shows in the core area,

Your unidentified images show a mass in the core area. No doubt of that.

This image shows the solid areas of the core in a mid day silouette, which celarly is not the multiple steel core column that FEMA states were there.

But, ......... most telling of all of the abscence of the steel core columns is this photo of the core that you love so much.

Since you post in support of no concrete as the core, but never adequately support the steel core columns, it is beginning to look as though you suppor tno core what so ever, an AIR CORE.

 

[Belz...]

3" REBAR ON 4' CENTERS

That one made me laught out loud. I expected to see that damn pixellised picture of the bottom of the core post-collapse. I forgot how good you were at spotting 3 inch-thick rebar from a mile away.

 

[Belz...]

That must be WTC 2, and the concrete core is there. WTC 2 had 2 hallways in each direction whereas WTC only had 1 hallway in one direction on every other floor.

Notice that only 7 floors show light through. I know that only 7 floors weer allowed over the top of the concrete core. Notice that ther are no multiple steel core columns with the density and size FEMA shows in the core area,

How can you see something that's invisible ? Damn! You're good.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Notice that what I have is many times more than what you have.

3" REBAR ON 4' CENTERS

I vaguely remember promising violence to myself or some form of severe peoperty damage if I ever saw that phrase again.

Any suggestions?