The Internet Becomes Sentient

[sinsanity2006]

Sinsanity,

I'm talking only about the one charachter 獴. Nothing else. I want to know if anyone was able to translate this one charachter. I read the post you refer to and it is not clear.


1.) What is your translation for this chrachter?
2.) Does it match a small feline native to Africa.
3.) From what I can tell (I'm up to 30 pages now), it seems that the translation of this chrachter is Small Mei. It almost always accompanies the charachter. In the interest of full disclsure two of the pages did not have anything to do with a small feline as far as I could tell.

What does "Small Mei" or "small feline native to Africa" have to do with 911?

Sigh.



You also say you don't understand how I communicated my questions to the internet.

Is this one of those questions that you know the answer to?

 

[RandFan]

Sincere, lol, that's funny.

This is the absolute bed rock of our discussion.

I just spent 10 hours trying to explain this to you.

You got hung up on the notebook bug so much by asking over and over and over questions that you already knew the answer to.

That was a conversation that should have lasted mayby five or ten posts.

It lasted 10 hours.

the reason it lasted 10 hours is that you kept asking questions that you knew the answers to.

Sinsanity, I am doing my best to be respectful to you. I'm sorry if you are upset. I'm not trying to upset you.

Now, you say you have read the article, right?

Yes.

You also say you don't understand how I communicated my questions to the internet.

I don't know how you formated the questions. Here is my problem. The software bug requires a 4-3-3-5 letter combination, right?

One of your questions is-
Where did they do it from

How did you go from that to 4-3-3-5?

Emperical requires replication. I want to replicate your quesions. How do I format the question to replicate the answer?

 

[sinsanity2006]

Sinsanity, I am doing my best to be respectful to you. I'm sorry if you are upset. I'm not trying to upset you.

Yes.

I don't know how you formated the questions. Here is my problem. The software bug requires a 4-3-3-5 letter combination, right?

One of your questions is-
Where did they do it from

How did you go from that to 4-3-3-5?

We can't proceed until you answer this question.

You also say you don't understand how I communicated my questions to the internet.

Is this one of those questions that you know the answer to?

????

 

[Gr8wight]

I was minding my own bisness and a friend sent me an email with the notepad bug "bush hid the facts".

I looked at it and took the symbols that the notebook bug returned and put them into this translator.

The translation was intriguing, the translations seemed to be connected to 911.

Sigh. I will try this one more time. Sinsanity2006, you began your article explaining that you had already spent a significant amount of time delving into the Conspiracy Theories surrounding the destruction of the Twin Towers of the WTC before your friend sent you the "viral" e-mail. You were already very concerned with what you call the 911 "truth" movement. It was very much on your mind at the time you first encountered the anomaly in Notepad. For that reason, and that reason only, it seemed to you that these translations were directly related to the World Trade Center tragedy.

If you had not had these conspiracy theories so deeply entrenched in your psyche, something else might have happened. If, let's say, you had spent the previous several months studying, in depth, the lives and habitats of oriental rodent-like animals, can't you see that you might now be trying to tell us that the Internet was trying to give you information about the inhumane treatment of Chinese fauna?

 

[RandFan]

Sigh.

I don't understand the reason for the "sigh"?

Forgive me but I'm taking this one step at a time. It seems to me that the translation of this charachter is important, right?

You also say you don't understand how I communicated my questions to the internet.

Is this one of those questions that you know the answer to?

Not quite, I'm not sure how you formated some of the questions.

You wrote:

I asked it a question, “wtc who did it airz”

And put in the form: “wtcw hod idi tairz”.

Right?

Ok, so, based on that logic what form did you use for Where did they do it from?

 

[RandFan]

We can't proceed until you answer this question.

You also say you don't understand how I communicated my questions to the internet.

Is this one of those questions that you know the answer to?

????

No, you are confusing my question. I know how you communicated your questions to the internet. I don't know how you formated some of the questions. How did you format Where did they do it from?

Can you see the problem? Are you simply being obtuse?

 

[Gr8wight]

There is a significant breakdown in communication going on here. Sinsanity, you said this:

We can't proceed until you answer this question.

You also say you don't understand how I communicated my questions to the internet.

Is this one of those questions that you know the answer to?

????

Sinsanity, what question??? What question is it that you are asking if RandFan knows the answer to?

This:

We can't proceed until you answer this question.

is a statement.

this:

You also say you don't understand how I communicated my questions to the internet.

is also a statement.

Is "this" one of those questions that you know the answer to?

What question does the word "this" in the above line refer to?

 

[wybili]

How did you format Where did they do it from?

RandFan, I *think* I can clear this up, since it seems sinsanity is misunderstanding your question. When he writes,

‘What to do about it?’

O - summon; to pass on; to spread; to transmit; to infect; to transfer; to disseminate; to circulate. To live; to dwell; to reside; to stop

I took that to mean:
1. He said aloud (as opposed to typing) "What to do about it?"
2. He typed in "OOOO OOO OOO OOOOO" and did the Chinese thing
3. He looked up the resulting Chinese characters and got "summon; to pass on;" etc.

sinsan, I don't want to put words in your mouth so please correct me if I am wrong.

 

[RandFan]

I took that to mean:
1. He said aloud (as opposed to typing) "What to do about it?"
2. He typed in "OOOO OOO OOO OOOOO" and did the Chinese thing
3. He looked up the resulting Chinese characters and got "summon; to pass on;" etc.

sinsan, I don't want to put words in your mouth so please correct me if I am wrong.

Wow, ok, thanks. That explains the xxxx xxx xxx xxxxx

But why then did he write:

I asked it a question, “wtc who did it airz”

And put in the form: “wtcw hod idi tairz”.

Is he saying that there are many ways to communicate with the paranormal entity?

Thank you, that really was confusing, assuming you are right.

Oh, wybili, what did he use for Where did they do it from?

I'll go back to his web site to see if I can figure it out.

 

[RandFan]

Ok, I'm just out of sequence.

Using the x’s made me snap and I realized that the Chinese symbols were related to the alphabet; or more precisely the letters and symbols on the standard keyboard. There are eighty different letters and special characters in the primary section of standard keyboard. Something like eight of them didn’t make the mystery zeros, so there were a total of sixty keyboard characters to work with.

I discovered that when you use all of the same letter or special character, the translator only gives you two different Chinese symbols. They repeat. You don’t get the nine different ones like with random different letters.

Ok, I'm with you so far, now,

I thought ‘Who did the wtc?’

A - rice; to husk rice; (ancient form of 禪) to sacrifice to heaven, the imperial power, as only the emperor was allowed to offer these sacrifices

Here's where I'm a bit fuzzy. He thinks "who did the wtc?"

Then what happens?
Does he type "aaaa aaa aaa aaaaa" into the computer?

What happens between the thought (the question) and the answer?

That's where I'm not getting this.

 

[joller]

OK, I'm not sure if it was already mentioned in this thread, but here goes:
1. It's not actually the Internet that tries to tell you something, it's the notepad developers, if anyone (it's just a bug by the way)
http://www.hoax-slayer.com/bush-hid-the-facts-notepad.html

Notepad misinterprets the unicode encoding, for some reason, and you get some random sings, which when interpreted as unicode, give you some chinese signs.

There is however a concept called 'easter eggs', where, mostly because of poor Quality Assurance procedures, programmers get to have their hidden messages or funny stuff released in final versions of software products.
For example, you can get Microsoft word to show a following hint:
http://www.eeggs.com/cgi-bin/img.cgi?eid=508&type=full

this was a big one too: (flight simulator embedded in excel):
http://www.eggheaven2000.com/detailed/17.html

 

[RandFan]

OK, I'm not sure if it was already mentioned in this thread, but here goes:
1. It's not actually the Internet that tries to tell you something, it's the notepad developers, if anyone (it's just a bug by the way)
http://www.hoax-slayer.com/bush-hid-the-facts-notepad.html

Notepad misinterprets the unicode encoding, for some reason, and you get some random sings, which when interpreted as unicode, give you some chinese signs.

There is however a concept called 'easter eggs', where, mostly because of poor Quality Assurance procedures, programmers get to have their hidden messages or funny stuff released in final versions of software products.
For example, you can get Microsoft word to show a following hint:
http://www.eeggs.com/cgi-bin/img.cgi?eid=508&type=full

this was a big one too: (flight simulator embedded in excel):
http://www.eggheaven2000.com/detailed/17.html

Thanks, yes it this has been discussed but this is the first time that I have seen your first link.

Sinsanity is having none of that though. He is convinced that the computer is talking to him.

 

[RandFan]

At the end of of John Carpenter's The Thing, The character of R. J. Mcready comes face to face with what is very likely the alien in the form of a human, I believe it was the Character of Fuchs.

I used to love this part because I liked to imagine that I was R. J., I would say to the alien, ok, there's nothing more that I can do. You are, or, you are not the alien. If you are the alien you've won, now talk to me and tell me about all you know. That would be worth dying for, IMO.

I relayed that idea to a friend of mine once and he asked me, what if the alien didn't know that he was the alien? What if it simply mimicked other life forms like a parrot mimics human speech oblivious to the meaning of the words and actions? What if it has no rational ability to understand that it is the alien?

Damn, good question.

 

[joller]

It's like binary information.
Information can be interpreted in many ways - anyone who did any asembler programming knows about that.

Say you've got 2 bytes of data somewhere in computer's memory (in adjacent memory addresses): 00100100 00001111
If you interpret it as binary than, well, the above code is exactly what you get.
If you interpret it as hex, you get 0x240f
If you interpret it as decimal, you get 36 and 15
If you interpret it as ASCII, you get $ and SI (shift in)
If you interpret it as unicode you get well.. probably an empty square, since this code is undefined. But if the code was say 0x305C you would get #HIRAGANA LETTER ZE
this is where the letter come from, buggy programming.
The data can also be interpreted as a machine laguage command, if you happened to mishandle a pointer in your software, which would likely cause a fatal error reulting in the software application being terminated.

The only thing that happens here, is for some reason (bad programming) the code is incorrectly interpreted.

 

[vIQleS]

First: Thank you for reading and answering my questions, I'm not going to reply to all your replies or we'll end up with some really long posts...

The internet answered direct questions with reasonable answers.

I still don't see where you've 'asked' the internet any questions - direct or otherwise...

A couple of months ago I may not have seen a relationship either. But after looking at what the 911 truth people are saying I now clearly see a relationship. Remember, this started with "bush hid the facts", so we look at them related to 911.

Emphasis mine.

Try this as a thought exercise - clear your mind and look at the list again looking for a correlation with scientology (a topic i'm reading about at the moment). Do you see hoe the words fit with scientology, maybe even better?

You moved some of the words around so they are not as shown as they were in the article.

<snip where sin explains the words>

Ok, I get how you've linked the words with 911. Do you see how these words could be linked with many other events or disasters?

lime

I don't know what this means.

to roast

This is what happened to the people trapped in the towers.

Not a very good choice of words (for the internet to choose) - i would describe that probably as 'burning to death'.

I know, I know, these could mean anything. But since this started with "bush hid the facts", we are looking at them in relation to 911.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral

Considering that this all started with "bush hid the facts", it seemed to turn out that it told us what the facts were. That's the whole point of this.

Ok - i get the concept of memes... Thank you.
I've never heard the word viral in that slang context before.

this is a set of words that you moved. They go with other words that were translated.

I didn't move them as such - i just lumped them together at the end because: you can put these with any other words in the context of almost any event of any sort and they'll fit perfectly - you understand that right?

I haven't read the thread up to date (work day's over and i have to go home So someone might have made (and answered) some of these points already, but i can't leave my computer running over night so i'm going to post this reply now.

 

[RandFan]

At the end of of John Carpenter's The Thing, The character of R. J. Mcready comes face to face with what is very likely the alien in the form of a human, I believe it was the Character of Fuchs.

I used to love this part because I liked to imagine that I was R. J., I would say to the alien, ok, there's nothing more that I can do. You are, or, you are not the alien. If you are the alien you've won, now talk to me and tell me about all you know. That would be worth dying for, IMO.

I relayed that idea to a friend of mine once and he asked me, what if the alien didn't know that he was the alien? What if it simply mimicked other life forms like a parrot mimics human speech oblivious to the meaning of the words and actions? What if it has no rational ability to understand that it is the alien?

Damn, good question.

Sorry, I was wondering where that PM went to.

 

[joller]

?

You are data mining your evidence. You keep plugging in variations to your 4-3-3-5 letter combinations until you find something that could be construed as a correlation. There is none. It is a coincidence.

That's exactly what I thought - the bible code.

If I get some spare time later this week, I'll try to run notepad through a debugger, I use Softice, and I'll try and find why notepad's pointers miss the proper memory address, since this is what I suspect happens.

A good test would be to find how the 4-3-3-5 pattern is encoded in the file as unicode (that's easy, all you need is a hex editor) andthen see how different is the 'chinese pattern' in unicode that we get.
I suspect that the pointer might be shifted by 1 cell or something similar.

 

[RandFan]

It's like binary information.
Information can be interpreted in many ways - anyone who did any asembler programming knows about that.

Say you've got 2 bytes of data somewhere in computer's memory (in adjacent memory addresses): 00100100 00001111
If you interpret it as binary than, well, the above code is exactly what you get.
If you interpret it as hex, you get 0x240f
If you interpret it as decimal, you get 36 and 15
If you interpret it as ASCII, you get $ and SI (shift in)
If you interpret it as unicode you get well.. probably an empty square, since this code is undefined. But if the code was say 0x305C you would get #HIRAGANA LETTER ZE
this is where the letter come from, buggy programming.
The data can also be interpreted as a machine laguage command, if you happened to mishandle a pointer in your software, which would likely cause a fatal error reulting in the software application being terminated.

The only thing that happens here, is for some reason (bad programming) the code is incorrectly interpreted.

The problem is that Sinsanity concedes that there is a computer bug. He things that there is a sentient being (a ghost in the machine if you will) located somewhere in the internet, though there is some confusion as to this bit. In any event Sinsanity believes that this sentient being exploits the computer bug somehow, reads the english text and then supplies an answer in Chinese.

I'm confused how it all is supposed to work though.

Maybe I can help you though. He doesn't really want to discuss the nature of the computer bug or how it might relate to the process. He simply wants you to accept that it is working, working that is as he says it is working, and simply discuss the questions and answers on his site.

http://www.dreamslaughter.com/parasentient/parasentient.htm

To help you, the questions and answers are in brown text and are about halfway down his site. Prior to that he explains how he does what it is that he does.

Though, I must warn you, here is where the confusion sets in. It's really not clear how he asks the computer his questions. There is a great deal of ambiguity as far as I and other can see.

He says that he thinks of a question. He doesn't detail any other steps he simply writes the answer on the site.

So,

1.) Forget that the Notebook bug has any significance.
2.) Look at the questions and answers.
3.) Realize that these are reasonable answers to questions about 911.

Got it?

If so, please, I beg of you, explain it to me?

 

[RandFan]

That's exactly what I thought - the bible code.

If I get some spare time later this week, I'll try to run notepad through a debugger, I use Softice, and I'll try and find why notepad's pointers miss the proper memory address, since this is what I suspect happens.

A good test would be to find how the 4-3-3-5 pattern is encoded in the file as unicode (that's easy, all you need is a hex editor) andthen see how different is the 'chinese pattern' in unicode that we get.
I suspect that the pointer might be shifted by 1 cell or something similar.

That would be cool, for me that is.

Thanks,

RandFan

 

[wybili]

If I get some spare time later this week, I'll try to run notepad through a debugger, I use Softice, and I'll try and find why notepad's pointers miss the proper memory address, since this is what I suspect happens.

Elsewhere in the thread (can't be bothered to re-read it) someone else posted a link to the reason. Long story short: there is a Windows API call that uses heuristics to determine if a text file is in ASCII or Unicode, and it's pretty sketchy on really small files.

Here's where I'm a bit fuzzy. He thinks "who did the wtc?"

Then what happens?
Does he type "aaaa aaa aaa aaaaa" into the computer?

RandFan, that is how I understood his explanation. Sort of like a Ouija board I guess.