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Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

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Pardalis said:
Christophera, what are your credentials? Are you an engeneer of any sort?
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I work for a civil engineer doing surveying and drafting. We do mostly grading plans, not structural. I do staking for structural quite often and must use structural plans. I've also been a welder for 30 years and have about 3 years experieince doing above ground blasting.

What are your credentials?
 
Christophera said:
Geez, ......... I can hardly believe that this has been asked.

You have made an error, perhaps intentionally. This I consider to be a disinfo tactic it is so confusing.

The towers you refer to are not falling yet so the debris outruns them.
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How can you have the guts to respond to that question with such an idiotic statement?
 
Christophera said:
I work for a civil engineer doing surveying and drafting. We do mostly grading plans, not structural. I do staking for structural quite often and must use structural plans. I've also been a welder for 30 years and have about 3 years experieince doing above ground blasting.

What are your credentials?
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I have none in this matter. I just wondered why you keep referring to your own site, instead of real engeneering ones.
 
hurdygurdy said:
One more image of the astounding invisicrete:

[qimg]http://img310.imageshack.us/img310/3411/bscap2360yo.jpg[/qimg]
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There is no reason concrete would show in that photo. It was most often at least 3 floors below the top floor and sometimes 7 floors down.

There is reason for the supposed steel core columns in this image of the concrete core. Also in this image showing 3" REBAR ON 4' CENTERS the supposed steel core columns do not show.

WHY? Because they did not exist.
 
Pardalis said:
I have none in this matter. I just wondered why you keep referring to your own site, instead of real engeneering ones.
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Here is another engineering site.

NOTE: This page has some confusion about the construction sequence of steel and concrete.

Each of the towers, in other words, was held up by its reinforced concrete core and the world's strongest curtain walls. Without the usual steel skeleton, the open floors allowed unprecedented space and flexibility. Between them, the two 1,350-foot-high towers provided 7.9 million square feet of rentable floor space, roughly the equivalent of fifty city blocks.

http://salwen.com/wtc
 
Christophera said:
Here is another engineering site.

NOTE: This page has some confusion about the construction sequence of steel and concrete.

Each of the towers, in other words, was held up by its reinforced concrete core and the world's strongest curtain walls. Without the usual steel skeleton, the open floors allowed unprecedented space and flexibility. Between them, the two 1,350-foot-high towers provided 7.9 million square feet of rentable floor space, roughly the equivalent of fifty city blocks.

http://salwen.com/wtc
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That is not an engineering site/firm. It is a PR/Graphics Design firm:
www.salwen.com = [ 209.35.192.105 ]

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Stop spreading erroneous information Christophera.
 
Christophera said:
I will have to look through them, but generally, except for a few, the concrete was fractured and fell instantly, as in near free fall.
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Then for God's sake what the heck is that picture you keep showing supposed to prove? How could a supposed concrete core still be standing if it was fractured and fell instantly?

How does your brain reconcile such blatent inconsistencies like that?
 
bob_kark said:
How did the rest of the building collapse if the core was still standing? Why wasn't there a huge explosion when the C4 in the standing core detonated? Also, if thermite explosives had been detonated in the basement, what was the core standing on?
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The core was on its own foundation and went below the basement. The upper portions of the core were detonated, ripping the steel structure apart after the steel columns were cut every other floor. At about the 43rd floor the core detonations stopped for a second or so and the thermite inthe basement cut most of the interior columns and the perimeter columns so that the thicker walls, having more explosives in them would not throw heavy steel into adjacent buildings. The standing core then detonated with delays just faster than free fall to the ground.

Okay, we'll disagree.
 
Consider That There Were Delays

twinstead said:
Then for God's sake what the heck is that picture you keep showing supposed to prove? How could a supposed concrete core still be standing if it was fractured and fell instantly?

How does your brain reconcile such blatent inconsistencies like that?
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Firefighters actually mimick the delays with their voices as they describe the detonations they say they heard. The parts that detonated fell instantly WHEN they were detonated from the top down.
 
Christophera said:
I work for a civil engineer doing surveying and drafting. We do mostly grading plans, not structural. I do staking for structural quite often and must use structural plans. I've also been a welder for 30 years and have about 3 years experieince doing above ground blasting.
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From all this experience, do you have any reference from a reputable engeneering source, that there was a concrete core in the WTC?
 
Arkan_Wolfshade said:
That is not an engineering site/firm. It is a PR/Graphics Design firm:
www.salwen.com = [ 209.35.192.105 ]

Get a FREE domain name registration transfer or renewal with any annual hosting package
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http://www.networksolutions.com
Registrant:
Salwen Business Communications
156 Fifth Avenue
New York NY 10010-7002
US
Domain Name: SALWEN.COM
Administrative Contact Technical Contact:
Salwen sbc@GRAMERCY.IOS.COM

Salwen Business Communications
156 Fifth Avenue
New York NY 10010-7002
US
(212) 242-5546 fax: 999 999 9999
Record expires on 17-Feb-2010.
Record created on 16-Feb-1996.
Database last updated on 19-Jun-2006 13: 41: 38 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order:
A.NS.INTERLAND.NET 64.226.28.33
B.NS.INTERLAND.NET 69.0.145.33
C.NS.INTERLAND.NET 64.77.127.42

http://www.salwen.com/


Stop spreading erroneous information Christophera.
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No wonder they are a bit confused. At least they got the concrete core correct.

Can you produce an image of the steel core columns above the ground from demolition images?
 
Pardalis said:
From all this experience, do you have any reference from a reputable engeneering source, that there was a concrete core in the WTC?
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August Domel, Jr., Ph.D., S.E., P.E. November 2001

Groundbreaking for construction of the World Trade Center took place on August 5, 1966.Tower One, standing 1368 feet high, was completed in 1970, and Tower Two, at 1362 feet high, was completed in 1972. The structural design for the World Trade Center Towers was done by Skilling, Helle, Christiansen and Robertson. It was designed as a tube building that included a perimeter moment-resisting frame consisting of steel columns spaced on 39-inch centers. The load carrying system was designed so that the steel facade would resist lateral and gravity forces and the interior concrete core would carry only gravity loads.

Dr. Domel received a Ph.D. from the University of Illinois at Chicago in 1988 and a Law Degree from Loyola University in 1992. He is a licensed Structural Engineer and Attorney at Law in the .State of Illinois and a Professional Engineer in twelve states, including the State of New York. Dr. Domel is authorized by the Department of Labor (OSHA) as a 10 and 30 hour construction safety trainer.

http://www.ncsea.com/downloads/wtcseerp.pdf
 
Christophera said:
No wonder they are a bit confused. At least they got the concrete core correct.

Can you produce an image of the steel core columns above the ground from demolition images?
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Can you produce any images showing that you did not cause the Challenger disaster with a laser beam attack?

Apparently, Christophera needs reminded why pictures are not, in and of themselves, evidence http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.p...#post 1664253
Here, let me provide an example of why pictures, by themselves, are not evidence.

http://www.cnn.com/TECH/9610/10/feyn...plosion.lg.jpg
Here we can see the after-effects of Christophera's laser attack on the space shuttle Challenger.
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Christophera said:
Can you produce an image of the steel core columns above the ground from demolition images?
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It's been done several times. You choose to ignore all the evidence that's presented. You're just a sad, childish troll.
 
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